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Composition, Arrangement & Layout
ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Gyani Jarnail Singh" data-source="post: 184627" data-attributes="member: 189"><p>Jios..</p><p></p><p>We read too much into "Guru jis kirpa nadar etc.."</p><p></p><p>As a teacher i had each and every studnets welfare at heart..i would anguish looking at students who didnt study..they wanted my nadar/kirpa..</p><p>Could I simply "help those who didnt study at the expense of those that followed the timetable and studied their hearts out..??</p><p>If it was simply Nadar kirpa..why would Guru ji labour to write a huge 1429 page SGGS...thats a hefty MANUAL of LIFE..a simple "just wait for my nadar/kirpa"..would do ??? Guru Ji travelled thousands of miles...all over the known world through dangerous paths and seas full of storms..jungles full of maneaters....was it just a case of nadar/kirpa ?? Are the Hundred thousand babas and snats "dishing out nadar/kirpa too ?? Just ask any of thsoe who follow these..they sure are going to say..YES JI..once the Baba Ji bestows his NADAR on ME..it will all be Hinky dory..Bass KIRPA ho javeh...maujan hee maujan...There is no such "HOPE" from SGGS..which cant ssee..cant wave his hand over your head..and cnat make eye contact //so no nadar no kirpa ???..is this the reason for the overflowing huge deras..capacity full beas satsangs....and empty Gurdwaras ?? Imho..those who go to Gurdwaras genuinely know that LOTS of HARD WORK is necessary...and thats why so few go...its better to go to Beas and get the Guru whisper sweet nothings in your ear !!! That "Gurus NADAR" is visible..eye contact ???</p><p></p><p>Even the basic logic is...."GOD helps those who HELP themselves.."...and in GURMATT its way way MUCH more than that..A Good sikh helps Himself..helps OTHERS..before Guru helps him...is basic premise of Gurbani in 1429 pages...GHAAL KHAYEH..KICCH HATHON DEH....work hard..earn share..then ASK the Guru !!! People jump shortcut to ASK THE GURU...one second his NADAR ho jayeh..bass maujan mujan...</p><p><img src="/images/smilies/sikhsmileys/fauja-singh-ji.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":faujasingh:" title="Fauja Singh :faujasingh:" data-shortname=":faujasingh:" /><img src="/images/smilies/sikhsmileys/fauja-singh-ji.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":faujasingh:" title="Fauja Singh :faujasingh:" data-shortname=":faujasingh:" /><img src="/images/smilies/sikhsmileys/fauja-singh-ji.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":faujasingh:" title="Fauja Singh :faujasingh:" data-shortname=":faujasingh:" /><img src="/images/smilies/sikhsmileys/fauja-singh-ji.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":faujasingh:" title="Fauja Singh :faujasingh:" data-shortname=":faujasingh:" /><img src="/images/smilies/sikhsmileys/fauja-singh-ji.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":faujasingh:" title="Fauja Singh :faujasingh:" data-shortname=":faujasingh:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gyani Jarnail Singh, post: 184627, member: 189"] Jios.. We read too much into "Guru jis kirpa nadar etc.." As a teacher i had each and every studnets welfare at heart..i would anguish looking at students who didnt study..they wanted my nadar/kirpa.. Could I simply "help those who didnt study at the expense of those that followed the timetable and studied their hearts out..?? If it was simply Nadar kirpa..why would Guru ji labour to write a huge 1429 page SGGS...thats a hefty MANUAL of LIFE..a simple "just wait for my nadar/kirpa"..would do ??? Guru Ji travelled thousands of miles...all over the known world through dangerous paths and seas full of storms..jungles full of maneaters....was it just a case of nadar/kirpa ?? Are the Hundred thousand babas and snats "dishing out nadar/kirpa too ?? Just ask any of thsoe who follow these..they sure are going to say..YES JI..once the Baba Ji bestows his NADAR on ME..it will all be Hinky dory..Bass KIRPA ho javeh...maujan hee maujan...There is no such "HOPE" from SGGS..which cant ssee..cant wave his hand over your head..and cnat make eye contact //so no nadar no kirpa ???..is this the reason for the overflowing huge deras..capacity full beas satsangs....and empty Gurdwaras ?? Imho..those who go to Gurdwaras genuinely know that LOTS of HARD WORK is necessary...and thats why so few go...its better to go to Beas and get the Guru whisper sweet nothings in your ear !!! That "Gurus NADAR" is visible..eye contact ??? Even the basic logic is...."GOD helps those who HELP themselves.."...and in GURMATT its way way MUCH more than that..A Good sikh helps Himself..helps OTHERS..before Guru helps him...is basic premise of Gurbani in 1429 pages...GHAAL KHAYEH..KICCH HATHON DEH....work hard..earn share..then ASK the Guru !!! People jump shortcut to ASK THE GURU...one second his NADAR ho jayeh..bass maujan mujan... :faujasingh::faujasingh::faujasingh::faujasingh::faujasingh: [/QUOTE]
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