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ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
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Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Harjas Kaur Khalsa" data-source="post: 53169" data-attributes="member: 2125"><p>I have been to Hindu mandirs, Christian churches, Jewish synagogues and Muslim mosques. As a Sikh, why would I go back to those places of worship knowing it was not for me? Such things only breed confusion. We should not mix traditions or religious paths. Tolerance is shown in not trying to convert anybody, or disrespecting anybody's free choice. <strong>It is not tolerance to participate with other faiths in their worship and rituals.</strong> The reason <em>you</em> visit Hindu mandir and Gurudwara equally is because thats within your family.</p><p> </p><p>While it is a kind invitation and intended with friendliness, to accept would be innapropriate. First, for a Hindu, nothing in a Gurudwara would offend the Hindu faith. However, to go to a mandir dedicated worship of plural gods and idols and ritualistic practices is not a part of Sikhi. All places of worship should be shown utmost respect because Akal Purakh is in those places. Nothing should be mocked or disrespected, neither should it be accepted and agreed with. Can you join in singing bhajan kirtan to Hanuman and Durga ma? Should you eat parshad offered to idols? For what purpose are you there?</p><p> </p><p>Taking this example of tolerance to another level, what would be wrong in visiting a Muslim mosque? Or attending Muslim events, such as debates or teaching of Quran with a Muslim friend? Is it tolerance to mix in like this? Or does it expose someone to influences which don't blend in with Sikhi? The Gurudwara is open to all faiths without expectation of conversion. But all faiths want to subsume Sikhi within the umbrella of their fold. Muslims and Christians want conversion. Hindu's consider Sikhi a sect of Hinduism. </p><p> </p><p>To visit a Hindu mandir as a Sikh is to be honoring the gods of that mandir. If you have a friend and she likes to participate in Sikh events, well and good. But why is part of being her friend involving Sikhs in Hindu practices and worship? What are you going to do in that mandir? Stand there and refuse everything as "not a Hindu?" Or participate as "not a Sikh?" Now if it is a wedding invitation of a friend or something, that is different. Otherwise, it's simply an invitation to participate in Hindu way of worship. While this path has a lot of beauty and wisdom within it, the path is a valid path for Hindus but Sikhs do not belong there at all. You should correct your friends for their disrespect, but not badger them into going. Perhaps they can apologize to her for any bad comments and gently explain why they cannot go. Then it is up to her to accept or not.</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://www.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/images/exhibitions/mandir.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 9px">Why would a Sikh be in this Temple?</span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harjas Kaur Khalsa, post: 53169, member: 2125"] I have been to Hindu mandirs, Christian churches, Jewish synagogues and Muslim mosques. As a Sikh, why would I go back to those places of worship knowing it was not for me? Such things only breed confusion. We should not mix traditions or religious paths. Tolerance is shown in not trying to convert anybody, or disrespecting anybody's free choice. [B]It is not tolerance to participate with other faiths in their worship and rituals.[/B] The reason [I]you[/I] visit Hindu mandir and Gurudwara equally is because thats within your family. While it is a kind invitation and intended with friendliness, to accept would be innapropriate. First, for a Hindu, nothing in a Gurudwara would offend the Hindu faith. However, to go to a mandir dedicated worship of plural gods and idols and ritualistic practices is not a part of Sikhi. All places of worship should be shown utmost respect because Akal Purakh is in those places. Nothing should be mocked or disrespected, neither should it be accepted and agreed with. Can you join in singing bhajan kirtan to Hanuman and Durga ma? Should you eat parshad offered to idols? For what purpose are you there? Taking this example of tolerance to another level, what would be wrong in visiting a Muslim mosque? Or attending Muslim events, such as debates or teaching of Quran with a Muslim friend? Is it tolerance to mix in like this? Or does it expose someone to influences which don't blend in with Sikhi? The Gurudwara is open to all faiths without expectation of conversion. But all faiths want to subsume Sikhi within the umbrella of their fold. Muslims and Christians want conversion. Hindu's consider Sikhi a sect of Hinduism. To visit a Hindu mandir as a Sikh is to be honoring the gods of that mandir. If you have a friend and she likes to participate in Sikh events, well and good. But why is part of being her friend involving Sikhs in Hindu practices and worship? What are you going to do in that mandir? Stand there and refuse everything as "not a Hindu?" Or participate as "not a Sikh?" Now if it is a wedding invitation of a friend or something, that is different. Otherwise, it's simply an invitation to participate in Hindu way of worship. While this path has a lot of beauty and wisdom within it, the path is a valid path for Hindus but Sikhs do not belong there at all. You should correct your friends for their disrespect, but not badger them into going. Perhaps they can apologize to her for any bad comments and gently explain why they cannot go. Then it is up to her to accept or not. [IMG]http://www.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/images/exhibitions/mandir.jpg[/IMG] [B][SIZE=1]Why would a Sikh be in this Temple?[/SIZE][/B] [/QUOTE]
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