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<blockquote data-quote="Archived_Member_19" data-source="post: 108137" data-attributes="member: 2850"><p><strong>Re: Dilemma for Westerners?</strong></p><p></p><p>continuing the previous post</p><p></p><p>what does the journey involve:</p><p></p><p>ਆਸਾ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥ </p><p>आसा महला ५ ॥ </p><p>Āsā mėhlā 5. </p><p>Aasaa, Fifth Mehl: </p><p></p><p>ਤੀਰਥਿ ਜਾਉ ਤ ਹਉ ਹਉ ਕਰਤੇ ॥ </p><p>तीरथि जाउ त हउ हउ करते ॥ </p><p>Ŧirath jā▫o ṯa ha▫o ha▫o karṯe. </p><p>Journeying to sacred shrines of pilgrimage, I see the mortals acting in ego. </p><p></p><p>ਪੰਡਿਤ ਪੂਛਉ ਤ ਮਾਇਆ ਰਾਤੇ ॥੧॥ </p><p>पंडित पूछउ त माइआ राते ॥१॥ </p><p>Pandiṯ pūcẖẖa▫o ṯa mā▫i▫ā rāṯe. ||1|| </p><p>If I ask the Pandits, I find them tainted by Maya. ||1|| </p><p></p><p>ਸੋ ਅਸਥਾਨੁ ਬਤਾਵਹੁ ਮੀਤਾ ॥ </p><p>सो असथानु बतावहु मीता ॥ </p><p>So asthān baṯāvhu mīṯā. </p><p>Show me that place, O friend, </p><p></p><p>ਜਾ ਕੈ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਨੁ ਨੀਤਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ </p><p>जा कै हरि हरि कीरतनु नीता ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥ </p><p>Jā kai har har kīrṯan nīṯā. ||1|| rahā▫o. </p><p>where the Kirtan of the Lord's Praises are forever sung. ||1||Pause|| </p><p></p><p>ਸਾਸਤ੍ਰ ਬੇਦ ਪਾਪ ਪੁੰਨ ਵੀਚਾਰ ॥ </p><p>सासत्र बेद पाप पुंन वीचार ॥ </p><p>Sāsṯar beḏ pāp punn vīcẖār. </p><p>The Shaastras and the Vedas speak of sin and virtue; </p><p></p><p>ਨਰਕਿ ਸੁਰਗਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਅਉਤਾਰ ॥੨॥ </p><p>नरकि सुरगि फिरि फिरि अउतार ॥२॥ </p><p>Narak surag fir fir a▫uṯār. ||2|| </p><p>they say that mortals are reincarnated into heaven and hell, over and over again. ||2|| </p><p></p><p>ਗਿਰਸਤ ਮਹਿ ਚਿੰਤ ਉਦਾਸ ਅਹੰਕਾਰ ॥ </p><p>गिरसत महि चिंत उदास अहंकार ॥ </p><p>Girsaṯ mėh cẖinṯ uḏās ahaʼnkār. </p><p>In the householder's life, there is anxiety, and in the life of the renunciate, there is egotism. </p><p></p><p>ਕਰਮ ਕਰਤ ਜੀਅ ਕਉ ਜੰਜਾਰ ॥੩॥ </p><p>करम करत जीअ कउ जंजार ॥३॥ </p><p>Karam karaṯ jī▫a ka▫o janjār. ||3|| </p><p>Performing religious rituals, the soul is entangled. ||3|| </p><p></p><p>ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਤੇ ਮਨੁ ਵਸਿ ਆਇਆ ॥ </p><p>प्रभ किरपा ते मनु वसि आइआ ॥ </p><p>Parabẖ kirpā ṯe man vas ā▫i▫ā. </p><p>By God's Grace, the mind is brought under control; </p><p></p><p>ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਤਰੀ ਤਿਨਿ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੪॥ </p><p>नानक गुरमुखि तरी तिनि माइआ ॥४॥ </p><p>Nānak gurmukẖ ṯarī ṯin mā▫i▫ā. ||4|| </p><p>O Nanak, the Gurmukh crosses over the ocean of Maya. ||4|| </p><p></p><p>ਸਾਧਸੰਗਿ ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਨੁ ਗਾਈਐ ॥ </p><p>साधसंगि हरि कीरतनु गाईऐ ॥ </p><p>Sāḏẖsang har kīrṯan gā▫ī▫ai. </p><p>In the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, sing the Kirtan of the Lord's Praises. </p><p></p><p>ਇਹੁ ਅਸਥਾਨੁ ਗੁਰੂ ਤੇ ਪਾਈਐ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੭॥੫੮॥ </p><p>इहु असथानु गुरू ते पाईऐ ॥१॥ रहाउ दूजा ॥७॥५८॥ </p><p>Ih asthān gurū ṯe pā▫ī▫ai. ||1|| rahā▫o ḏūjā. ||7||58|| </p><p>This place is found through the Guru. ||1||Second. Pause||7||58||</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Archived_Member_19, post: 108137, member: 2850"] [b]Re: Dilemma for Westerners?[/b] continuing the previous post what does the journey involve: ਆਸਾ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥ आसा महला ५ ॥ Āsā mėhlā 5. Aasaa, Fifth Mehl: ਤੀਰਥਿ ਜਾਉ ਤ ਹਉ ਹਉ ਕਰਤੇ ॥ तीरथि जाउ त हउ हउ करते ॥ Ŧirath jā▫o ṯa ha▫o ha▫o karṯe. Journeying to sacred shrines of pilgrimage, I see the mortals acting in ego. ਪੰਡਿਤ ਪੂਛਉ ਤ ਮਾਇਆ ਰਾਤੇ ॥੧॥ पंडित पूछउ त माइआ राते ॥१॥ Pandiṯ pūcẖẖa▫o ṯa mā▫i▫ā rāṯe. ||1|| If I ask the Pandits, I find them tainted by Maya. ||1|| ਸੋ ਅਸਥਾਨੁ ਬਤਾਵਹੁ ਮੀਤਾ ॥ सो असथानु बतावहु मीता ॥ So asthān baṯāvhu mīṯā. Show me that place, O friend, ਜਾ ਕੈ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਨੁ ਨੀਤਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ जा कै हरि हरि कीरतनु नीता ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥ Jā kai har har kīrṯan nīṯā. ||1|| rahā▫o. where the Kirtan of the Lord's Praises are forever sung. ||1||Pause|| ਸਾਸਤ੍ਰ ਬੇਦ ਪਾਪ ਪੁੰਨ ਵੀਚਾਰ ॥ सासत्र बेद पाप पुंन वीचार ॥ Sāsṯar beḏ pāp punn vīcẖār. The Shaastras and the Vedas speak of sin and virtue; ਨਰਕਿ ਸੁਰਗਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਅਉਤਾਰ ॥੨॥ नरकि सुरगि फिरि फिरि अउतार ॥२॥ Narak surag fir fir a▫uṯār. ||2|| they say that mortals are reincarnated into heaven and hell, over and over again. ||2|| ਗਿਰਸਤ ਮਹਿ ਚਿੰਤ ਉਦਾਸ ਅਹੰਕਾਰ ॥ गिरसत महि चिंत उदास अहंकार ॥ Girsaṯ mėh cẖinṯ uḏās ahaʼnkār. In the householder's life, there is anxiety, and in the life of the renunciate, there is egotism. ਕਰਮ ਕਰਤ ਜੀਅ ਕਉ ਜੰਜਾਰ ॥੩॥ करम करत जीअ कउ जंजार ॥३॥ Karam karaṯ jī▫a ka▫o janjār. ||3|| Performing religious rituals, the soul is entangled. ||3|| ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਤੇ ਮਨੁ ਵਸਿ ਆਇਆ ॥ प्रभ किरपा ते मनु वसि आइआ ॥ Parabẖ kirpā ṯe man vas ā▫i▫ā. By God's Grace, the mind is brought under control; ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਤਰੀ ਤਿਨਿ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੪॥ नानक गुरमुखि तरी तिनि माइआ ॥४॥ Nānak gurmukẖ ṯarī ṯin mā▫i▫ā. ||4|| O Nanak, the Gurmukh crosses over the ocean of Maya. ||4|| ਸਾਧਸੰਗਿ ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਨੁ ਗਾਈਐ ॥ साधसंगि हरि कीरतनु गाईऐ ॥ Sāḏẖsang har kīrṯan gā▫ī▫ai. In the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, sing the Kirtan of the Lord's Praises. ਇਹੁ ਅਸਥਾਨੁ ਗੁਰੂ ਤੇ ਪਾਈਐ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੭॥੫੮॥ इहु असथानु गुरू ते पाईऐ ॥१॥ रहाउ दूजा ॥७॥५८॥ Ih asthān gurū ṯe pā▫ī▫ai. ||1|| rahā▫o ḏūjā. ||7||58|| This place is found through the Guru. ||1||Second. Pause||7||58|| [/QUOTE]
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