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<blockquote data-quote="vijaydeep Singh" data-source="post: 45383" data-attributes="member: 313"><p><strong>Re: Sants and Sikhi</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Gurfateh</p><p> </p><p>Bro,</p><p> </p><p>Das here refers to Pratap Singh Mehta version only which is Namdhari version.So he even writes own views about your Satiguru and rewrites him as Satiguru Ram Singh Ji.Das interpreted the orgional version and comapred it with explantions and they were biased.</p><p> </p><p>Sau Charan Pahul,it was nowhere writtan should be givne from water of the corner of Rumala of Guru Granth Sahib Ji,where human Guru did not exist.It was simply writtan take it from water dipped in Rumala and He wrote in bracked ,where Guru did not exists.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Now we come to concept of Panj Piaras.Well das is happy to inform you that Amrit Sansakr and Gurmantar you say is not the one.We are told to carry out Namabhiyas or Nam Drih by Singh repesetning Panth Guru.</p><p> </p><p>It is not Fateh but Gurmatar has mnay more thing and lots of practice or Abhyas attached to it.</p><p> </p><p>Then yourself Said that Guru Granth Sahib Ji can not guide us.Are you sure.Say If Akal wants why can not a person get enlightement just by reading.Is our God binded by anything.</p><p> </p><p>Coming to Sabad Guru,read Sidh Gost in Guru Granth Sahib Ji which yourself are respecting.That Guru Nanak called his own Guru.So it can ot be our Guru.</p><p> </p><p>Yuor Mahapursh had a copy of Sarbloh Granth,which they have lost why?Neeldharis still have it and they do not behold Baba Ram Singh Ji as Satiguru but form of Satiguru,if if you attain the state of Khalsa,your self can get.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>First Master did say that he was one with Akal,Vachitar Natak,He said his name will not come but name of Akal will come.And Akal can give Guruship as mnay times Akal wants to as many people.Fact is that True Guru is fromless as in all forms(32 forms of Gurus can be refered to in Dasham Granth).Guru Panth and Guru Granth Ji are mere manifestations.</p><p> </p><p>Sarbloh Granth further says, In Me(Tenth Nanak),in them(Khalsa) and in That(Akal) behold no difreance.Clarly 12 forms or Dwadash roops are writtan over there of Guru which is formless apprantly ie Ten Masters,Guru Granth and Guru Panth.</p><p> </p><p>Even if we belive that Baba Ajpal Singh stayed concelaed for about say 90 to hundred years.In that time there were Many Khalsa Nam Abhiyasis who did not meet him and got salvation while being alive just by follwing Five Beloved ones,they did not meet Tenth Master also.</p><p> </p><p>So one who gave baptism two Tenth Master were not weak.In Dasham Granth it is writtan that by thier mercy only we are created else billions or poors like me are lying.</p><p> </p><p>Anf when Guru himself says Khalsa Mera Satiguru Poora or Khalsa is my complete Satiguru(Sarbloh Granth).And as per Bhangu like Guru Angad became Guru and Guru Nanak bowed to him so did Guru Gobind Singh Ji bowed to Khalsa.He took Tankha from Khalsa even once.</p><p> </p><p>Yet das does not think any doubt should be left.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Anyway Purukh doe snot mean human but may mean male in Punjabi.But in Gurmat we need to understand that Satiguru does not mean any Human Guru.Even we need to understand that term Nanak is for second person and not First person in Guru Granht Sahib Ji.</p><p> </p><p>Term Purukh is from term Purush in holy Vedas(Purush Sutra).As per thaty defination Purush Evda Sarvada ie Purush ie Complete is one who is everywhere (in all time).</p><p> </p><p>Purukh or Karta Purukh is not single entitiy wioth Mushriks(partners).Ie no one second other then Akal exisits.Till you know you are vedantic but when you realise that you are a Khalsa.</p><p> </p><p>Das can not say that weather your presetn Satiguru Ji are making any one of his follower like that or not perhaps not becasue if they make any one just like him(if he himslef is Khalsa) then that person will stop following living Guru.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Das is repeating that we have Dehdhari Gurudevss in Sanatan Sikhs but that is simlar to the state of Sants of bibles in Holy Ghost ie Guru who is Akal overtaking the mind of Khalsa.</p><p> </p><p>If you want das by mercy of his Guru Khalsa can let you come out of precived limitations in mind that without lving Guru ,there can nopt be salvations.It is posible by mercy of Akal.</p><p> </p><p>Once Gulaba Khatri said that as Tenth Guru is no more he should be Guru,It was tested with his power and that of Five beloved one and he failed and we passed.So we are always ready to pas any Test as exminer is our Guru.<img src="/images/smilies/whatsapp/wah.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wah:" title="Wah :wah:" data-shortname=":wah:" /> </p><p> </p><p>We as individual are not Guru but as a whole and when we have essance of Guru Granth Sahib Ji in our heart.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Coming to Hindu factor,Das was a Hindu and whole family is Hindu.Ugradanti you also read,has term ourself as Third Faith and let Hindu Dharma all mist run away when we roar.</p><p> </p><p>We are Sanatan Dharmis.And our Guru is Sanatan.Das request you to read Sarbloh Granth.and Nanak was told,so kio simariye Nanaka Jame Te Mar Jai,Eko simariey Nanaka Jo Jal Thal Rahiya Samaye.And non of you Satiguru including initial Ten are worth to be rembered.</p><p> </p><p>Ten Masters were great as instead of there letting us follow there persinality,we were told by them to follow thier God.</p><p> </p><p>as far as our relation with Britshers is concerned and thier influence das recomends you to visit</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.sarbloh.info" target="_blank">www.sarbloh.info</a> to understand that.</p><p> </p><p>Baba Balak Singh did get some Brahm Vidya from Udaseen Sants,which was pased to Baba Ram Singh Ji and he became spritualy power ful.Say if das shows you a simlar Udasi Sadhu doing more better yogic things so will you call him your Satiguru?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Yuo forget that what Namdhairs initaily use to say,it is variued version of Beej Mantra,Sat Akal Purakh.Turth is eternaly Complete.</p><p>we all are limits and are thnece incomplete.But Akal is eternal and complete as in all completely.</p><p> </p><p>Das was told this by Guru of First Master(Sabad Guru as per Sidhg Gost) and Satiguru of Tenth Master Guru Panth Khalsa(Sarbloh Granth).</p><p> </p><p>Das can help you anyway as so far you need to realise the truth.Yuo can ask your Satiguru for that and if he refuse you can come to das or you can come directly.</p><p> </p><p>Ego can be for that who exsits but for Khalsa nothing else but Akal only exists.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Gurfateh</p><p> </p><p>Bro,</p><p> </p><p>Das here refers to Pratap Singh Mehta version only which is Namdhari version.So he even writes own views about your Satiguru and rewrites him as Satiguru Ram Singh Ji.Das interpreted the orgional version and comapred it with explantions and they were biased.</p><p> </p><p>Sau Charan Pahul,it was nowhere writtan should be givne from water of the corner of Rumala of Guru Granth Sahib Ji,where human Guru did not exist.It was simply writtan take it from water dipped in Rumala and He wrote in bracked ,where Guru did not exists.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Now we come to concept of Panj Piaras.Well das is happy to inform you that Amrit Sansakr and Gurmantar you say is not the one.We are told to carry out Namabhiyas or Nam Drih by Singh repesetning Panth Guru.</p><p> </p><p>It is not Fateh but Gurmatar has mnay more thing and lots of practice or Abhyas attached to it.</p><p> </p><p>Then yourself Said that Guru Granth Sahib Ji can not guide us.Are you sure.Say If Akal wants why can not a person get enlightement just by reading.Is our God binded by anything.</p><p> </p><p>Coming to Sabad Guru,read Sidh Gost in Guru Granth Sahib Ji which yourself are respecting.That Guru Nanak called his own Guru.So it can ot be our Guru.</p><p> </p><p>Yuor Mahapursh had a copy of Sarbloh Granth,which they have lost why?Neeldharis still have it and they do not behold Baba Ram Singh Ji as Satiguru but form of Satiguru,if if you attain the state of Khalsa,your self can get.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>First Master did say that he was one with Akal,Vachitar Natak,He said his name will not come but name of Akal will come.And Akal can give Guruship as mnay times Akal wants to as many people.Fact is that True Guru is fromless as in all forms(32 forms of Gurus can be refered to in Dasham Granth).Guru Panth and Guru Granth Ji are mere manifestations.</p><p> </p><p>Sarbloh Granth further says, In Me(Tenth Nanak),in them(Khalsa) and in That(Akal) behold no difreance.Clarly 12 forms or Dwadash roops are writtan over there of Guru which is formless apprantly ie Ten Masters,Guru Granth and Guru Panth.</p><p> </p><p>Even if we belive that Baba Ajpal Singh stayed concelaed for about say 90 to hundred years.In that time there were Many Khalsa Nam Abhiyasis who did not meet him and got salvation while being alive just by follwing Five Beloved ones,they did not meet Tenth Master also.</p><p> </p><p>So one who gave baptism two Tenth Master were not weak.In Dasham Granth it is writtan that by thier mercy only we are created else billions or poors like me are lying.</p><p> </p><p>Anf when Guru himself says Khalsa Mera Satiguru Poora or Khalsa is my complete Satiguru(Sarbloh Granth).And as per Bhangu like Guru Angad became Guru and Guru Nanak bowed to him so did Guru Gobind Singh Ji bowed to Khalsa.He took Tankha from Khalsa even once.</p><p> </p><p>Yet das does not think any doubt should be left.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Anyway Purukh doe snot mean human but may mean male in Punjabi.But in Gurmat we need to understand that Satiguru does not mean any Human Guru.Even we need to understand that term Nanak is for second person and not First person in Guru Granht Sahib Ji.</p><p> </p><p>Term Purukh is from term Purush in holy Vedas(Purush Sutra).As per thaty defination Purush Evda Sarvada ie Purush ie Complete is one who is everywhere (in all time).</p><p> </p><p>Purukh or Karta Purukh is not single entitiy wioth Mushriks(partners).Ie no one second other then Akal exisits.Till you know you are vedantic but when you realise that you are a Khalsa.</p><p> </p><p>Das can not say that weather your presetn Satiguru Ji are making any one of his follower like that or not perhaps not becasue if they make any one just like him(if he himslef is Khalsa) then that person will stop following living Guru.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Das is repeating that we have Dehdhari Gurudevss in Sanatan Sikhs but that is simlar to the state of Sants of bibles in Holy Ghost ie Guru who is Akal overtaking the mind of Khalsa.</p><p> </p><p>If you want das by mercy of his Guru Khalsa can let you come out of precived limitations in mind that without lving Guru ,there can nopt be salvations.It is posible by mercy of Akal.</p><p> </p><p>Once Gulaba Khatri said that as Tenth Guru is no more he should be Guru,It was tested with his power and that of Five beloved one and he failed and we passed.So we are always ready to pas any Test as exminer is our Guru.<img src="/images/smilies/whatsapp/wah.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wah:" title="Wah :wah:" data-shortname=":wah:" /> </p><p> </p><p>We as individual are not Guru but as a whole and when we have essance of Guru Granth Sahib Ji in our heart.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Coming to Hindu factor,Das was a Hindu and whole family is Hindu.Ugradanti you also read,has term ourself as Third Faith and let Hindu Dharma all mist run away when we roar.</p><p> </p><p>We are Sanatan Dharmis.And our Guru is Sanatan.Das request you to read Sarbloh Granth.and Nanak was told,so kio simariye Nanaka Jame Te Mar Jai,Eko simariey Nanaka Jo Jal Thal Rahiya Samaye.And non of you Satiguru including initial Ten are worth to be rembered.</p><p> </p><p>Ten Masters were great as instead of there letting us follow there persinality,we were told by them to follow thier God.</p><p> </p><p>as far as our relation with Britshers is concerned and thier influence das recomends you to visit</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.sarbloh.info/" target="_blank">www.sarbloh.info</a> to understand that.</p><p> </p><p>Baba Balak Singh did get some Brahm Vidya from Udaseen Sants,which was pased to Baba Ram Singh Ji and he became spritualy power ful.Say if das shows you a simlar Udasi Sadhu doing more better yogic things so will you call him your Satiguru?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Yuo forget that what Namdhairs initaily use to say,it is variued version of Beej Mantra,Sat Akal Purakh.Turth is eternaly Complete.</p><p>we all are limits and are thnece incomplete.But Akal is eternal and complete as in all completely.</p><p> </p><p>Das was told this by Guru of First Master(Sabad Guru as per Sidhg Gost) and Satiguru of Tenth Master Guru Panth Khalsa(Sarbloh Granth).</p><p> </p><p>Das can help you anyway as so far you need to realise the truth.Yuo can ask your Satiguru for that and if he refuse you can come to das or you can come directly.</p><p> </p><p>Ego can be for that who exsits but for Khalsa nothing else but Akal only exists.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vijaydeep Singh, post: 45383, member: 313"] [b]Re: Sants and Sikhi[/b] Gurfateh Bro, Das here refers to Pratap Singh Mehta version only which is Namdhari version.So he even writes own views about your Satiguru and rewrites him as Satiguru Ram Singh Ji.Das interpreted the orgional version and comapred it with explantions and they were biased. Sau Charan Pahul,it was nowhere writtan should be givne from water of the corner of Rumala of Guru Granth Sahib Ji,where human Guru did not exist.It was simply writtan take it from water dipped in Rumala and He wrote in bracked ,where Guru did not exists. Now we come to concept of Panj Piaras.Well das is happy to inform you that Amrit Sansakr and Gurmantar you say is not the one.We are told to carry out Namabhiyas or Nam Drih by Singh repesetning Panth Guru. It is not Fateh but Gurmatar has mnay more thing and lots of practice or Abhyas attached to it. Then yourself Said that Guru Granth Sahib Ji can not guide us.Are you sure.Say If Akal wants why can not a person get enlightement just by reading.Is our God binded by anything. Coming to Sabad Guru,read Sidh Gost in Guru Granth Sahib Ji which yourself are respecting.That Guru Nanak called his own Guru.So it can ot be our Guru. Yuor Mahapursh had a copy of Sarbloh Granth,which they have lost why?Neeldharis still have it and they do not behold Baba Ram Singh Ji as Satiguru but form of Satiguru,if if you attain the state of Khalsa,your self can get. First Master did say that he was one with Akal,Vachitar Natak,He said his name will not come but name of Akal will come.And Akal can give Guruship as mnay times Akal wants to as many people.Fact is that True Guru is fromless as in all forms(32 forms of Gurus can be refered to in Dasham Granth).Guru Panth and Guru Granth Ji are mere manifestations. Sarbloh Granth further says, In Me(Tenth Nanak),in them(Khalsa) and in That(Akal) behold no difreance.Clarly 12 forms or Dwadash roops are writtan over there of Guru which is formless apprantly ie Ten Masters,Guru Granth and Guru Panth. Even if we belive that Baba Ajpal Singh stayed concelaed for about say 90 to hundred years.In that time there were Many Khalsa Nam Abhiyasis who did not meet him and got salvation while being alive just by follwing Five Beloved ones,they did not meet Tenth Master also. So one who gave baptism two Tenth Master were not weak.In Dasham Granth it is writtan that by thier mercy only we are created else billions or poors like me are lying. Anf when Guru himself says Khalsa Mera Satiguru Poora or Khalsa is my complete Satiguru(Sarbloh Granth).And as per Bhangu like Guru Angad became Guru and Guru Nanak bowed to him so did Guru Gobind Singh Ji bowed to Khalsa.He took Tankha from Khalsa even once. Yet das does not think any doubt should be left. Anyway Purukh doe snot mean human but may mean male in Punjabi.But in Gurmat we need to understand that Satiguru does not mean any Human Guru.Even we need to understand that term Nanak is for second person and not First person in Guru Granht Sahib Ji. Term Purukh is from term Purush in holy Vedas(Purush Sutra).As per thaty defination Purush Evda Sarvada ie Purush ie Complete is one who is everywhere (in all time). Purukh or Karta Purukh is not single entitiy wioth Mushriks(partners).Ie no one second other then Akal exisits.Till you know you are vedantic but when you realise that you are a Khalsa. Das can not say that weather your presetn Satiguru Ji are making any one of his follower like that or not perhaps not becasue if they make any one just like him(if he himslef is Khalsa) then that person will stop following living Guru. Das is repeating that we have Dehdhari Gurudevss in Sanatan Sikhs but that is simlar to the state of Sants of bibles in Holy Ghost ie Guru who is Akal overtaking the mind of Khalsa. If you want das by mercy of his Guru Khalsa can let you come out of precived limitations in mind that without lving Guru ,there can nopt be salvations.It is posible by mercy of Akal. Once Gulaba Khatri said that as Tenth Guru is no more he should be Guru,It was tested with his power and that of Five beloved one and he failed and we passed.So we are always ready to pas any Test as exminer is our Guru.:wah: We as individual are not Guru but as a whole and when we have essance of Guru Granth Sahib Ji in our heart. Coming to Hindu factor,Das was a Hindu and whole family is Hindu.Ugradanti you also read,has term ourself as Third Faith and let Hindu Dharma all mist run away when we roar. We are Sanatan Dharmis.And our Guru is Sanatan.Das request you to read Sarbloh Granth.and Nanak was told,so kio simariye Nanaka Jame Te Mar Jai,Eko simariey Nanaka Jo Jal Thal Rahiya Samaye.And non of you Satiguru including initial Ten are worth to be rembered. Ten Masters were great as instead of there letting us follow there persinality,we were told by them to follow thier God. as far as our relation with Britshers is concerned and thier influence das recomends you to visit [URL="http://www.sarbloh.info"]www.sarbloh.info[/URL] to understand that. Baba Balak Singh did get some Brahm Vidya from Udaseen Sants,which was pased to Baba Ram Singh Ji and he became spritualy power ful.Say if das shows you a simlar Udasi Sadhu doing more better yogic things so will you call him your Satiguru? Yuo forget that what Namdhairs initaily use to say,it is variued version of Beej Mantra,Sat Akal Purakh.Turth is eternaly Complete. we all are limits and are thnece incomplete.But Akal is eternal and complete as in all completely. Das was told this by Guru of First Master(Sabad Guru as per Sidhg Gost) and Satiguru of Tenth Master Guru Panth Khalsa(Sarbloh Granth). Das can help you anyway as so far you need to realise the truth.Yuo can ask your Satiguru for that and if he refuse you can come to das or you can come directly. Ego can be for that who exsits but for Khalsa nothing else but Akal only exists. Gurfateh Bro, Das here refers to Pratap Singh Mehta version only which is Namdhari version.So he even writes own views about your Satiguru and rewrites him as Satiguru Ram Singh Ji.Das interpreted the orgional version and comapred it with explantions and they were biased. Sau Charan Pahul,it was nowhere writtan should be givne from water of the corner of Rumala of Guru Granth Sahib Ji,where human Guru did not exist.It was simply writtan take it from water dipped in Rumala and He wrote in bracked ,where Guru did not exists. Now we come to concept of Panj Piaras.Well das is happy to inform you that Amrit Sansakr and Gurmantar you say is not the one.We are told to carry out Namabhiyas or Nam Drih by Singh repesetning Panth Guru. It is not Fateh but Gurmatar has mnay more thing and lots of practice or Abhyas attached to it. Then yourself Said that Guru Granth Sahib Ji can not guide us.Are you sure.Say If Akal wants why can not a person get enlightement just by reading.Is our God binded by anything. Coming to Sabad Guru,read Sidh Gost in Guru Granth Sahib Ji which yourself are respecting.That Guru Nanak called his own Guru.So it can ot be our Guru. Yuor Mahapursh had a copy of Sarbloh Granth,which they have lost why?Neeldharis still have it and they do not behold Baba Ram Singh Ji as Satiguru but form of Satiguru,if if you attain the state of Khalsa,your self can get. First Master did say that he was one with Akal,Vachitar Natak,He said his name will not come but name of Akal will come.And Akal can give Guruship as mnay times Akal wants to as many people.Fact is that True Guru is fromless as in all forms(32 forms of Gurus can be refered to in Dasham Granth).Guru Panth and Guru Granth Ji are mere manifestations. Sarbloh Granth further says, In Me(Tenth Nanak),in them(Khalsa) and in That(Akal) behold no difreance.Clarly 12 forms or Dwadash roops are writtan over there of Guru which is formless apprantly ie Ten Masters,Guru Granth and Guru Panth. Even if we belive that Baba Ajpal Singh stayed concelaed for about say 90 to hundred years.In that time there were Many Khalsa Nam Abhiyasis who did not meet him and got salvation while being alive just by follwing Five Beloved ones,they did not meet Tenth Master also. So one who gave baptism two Tenth Master were not weak.In Dasham Granth it is writtan that by thier mercy only we are created else billions or poors like me are lying. Anf when Guru himself says Khalsa Mera Satiguru Poora or Khalsa is my complete Satiguru(Sarbloh Granth).And as per Bhangu like Guru Angad became Guru and Guru Nanak bowed to him so did Guru Gobind Singh Ji bowed to Khalsa.He took Tankha from Khalsa even once. Yet das does not think any doubt should be left. Anyway Purukh doe snot mean human but may mean male in Punjabi.But in Gurmat we need to understand that Satiguru does not mean any Human Guru.Even we need to understand that term Nanak is for second person and not First person in Guru Granht Sahib Ji. Term Purukh is from term Purush in holy Vedas(Purush Sutra).As per thaty defination Purush Evda Sarvada ie Purush ie Complete is one who is everywhere (in all time). Purukh or Karta Purukh is not single entitiy wioth Mushriks(partners).Ie no one second other then Akal exisits.Till you know you are vedantic but when you realise that you are a Khalsa. Das can not say that weather your presetn Satiguru Ji are making any one of his follower like that or not perhaps not becasue if they make any one just like him(if he himslef is Khalsa) then that person will stop following living Guru. Das is repeating that we have Dehdhari Gurudevss in Sanatan Sikhs but that is simlar to the state of Sants of bibles in Holy Ghost ie Guru who is Akal overtaking the mind of Khalsa. If you want das by mercy of his Guru Khalsa can let you come out of precived limitations in mind that without lving Guru ,there can nopt be salvations.It is posible by mercy of Akal. Once Gulaba Khatri said that as Tenth Guru is no more he should be Guru,It was tested with his power and that of Five beloved one and he failed and we passed.So we are always ready to pas any Test as exminer is our Guru.:wah: We as individual are not Guru but as a whole and when we have essance of Guru Granth Sahib Ji in our heart. Coming to Hindu factor,Das was a Hindu and whole family is Hindu.Ugradanti you also read,has term ourself as Third Faith and let Hindu Dharma all mist run away when we roar. We are Sanatan Dharmis.And our Guru is Sanatan.Das request you to read Sarbloh Granth.and Nanak was told,so kio simariye Nanaka Jame Te Mar Jai,Eko simariey Nanaka Jo Jal Thal Rahiya Samaye.And non of you Satiguru including initial Ten are worth to be rembered. Ten Masters were great as instead of there letting us follow there persinality,we were told by them to follow thier God. as far as our relation with Britshers is concerned and thier influence das recomends you to visit [URL="http://www.sarbloh.info/"]www.sarbloh.info[/URL] to understand that. Baba Balak Singh did get some Brahm Vidya from Udaseen Sants,which was pased to Baba Ram Singh Ji and he became spritualy power ful.Say if das shows you a simlar Udasi Sadhu doing more better yogic things so will you call him your Satiguru? Yuo forget that what Namdhairs initaily use to say,it is variued version of Beej Mantra,Sat Akal Purakh.Turth is eternaly Complete. we all are limits and are thnece incomplete.But Akal is eternal and complete as in all completely. Das was told this by Guru of First Master(Sabad Guru as per Sidhg Gost) and Satiguru of Tenth Master Guru Panth Khalsa(Sarbloh Granth). Das can help you anyway as so far you need to realise the truth.Yuo can ask your Satiguru for that and if he refuse you can come to das or you can come directly. Ego can be for that who exsits but for Khalsa nothing else but Akal only exists. [/QUOTE]
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