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<blockquote data-quote="vijaydeep Singh" data-source="post: 14266" data-attributes="member: 313"><p>Gurfateh</p><p> </p><p>Das will start and touch various aspect of this.</p><p> </p><p>When Das became Sikh many of his Hindu Punajbi reltives started to him that he should be Sikh by Mind.Mann Ke Sikh Banno.</p><p> </p><p>That is similar to one of the novel Vijai Singh of Bhai Veer Singh.</p><p> </p><p>Das was told to remain Sikh by heart or mind but let him retain Hindu apperance.</p><p> </p><p>Das has a God sister of Ludhian who was at the forefrnt while his mother was controlled by his Hindu father who is from Bihar and Ex Army Officer.</p><p> </p><p>Das asked the sister.Why should not a person be in appearnce what is in mind and why should be there the Duality or Dogalapan.</p><p> </p><p>Is it possible for das to sleep with in lady in physical state but consider her has a sister in mind.</p><p> </p><p>Well Gurbani talks of Tan(Body) Mann(mind) Dhan(wealth) Sabh(All) Saunpe Gur Ko(suurreder to Guru(Akal).</p><p> </p><p>With this logic did Das kept 5Ks.</p><p> </p><p>Reason for Tenth Master's not incluidng this or any of his Bani in Adi Guru Darbar was not that,His Bani was only within the time frame and had no eternal appeal.Had this been then Japu Sahib would have been added just after Japu Ji sahib.But nothing was added.</p><p> </p><p>Reason was that Adi Guru Darbar was to there to unite the Human Kind.But Khalsa the form of Guru was the Task force of Guru to carry oout such work even after Gurus departure and for that some exclusuve guidlines for them was needed and that was only for them and that lead to the making of other two holy books.</p><p> </p><p>Das thinks that Gurmat was made to resore order and Faith before them were to be retained plus a few foolproof things to be added so that Dharam(rithousness be reamain).</p><p> </p><p>Were First Nanak and Sanit Kabeer the rebels or restrere of the order from Anachy can be found from here.</p><p> </p><p>They did confronted political Anchricts or dictators who were misinterpreting the faith to fullfil there own golas and that is breaking the rules and Guru restores it.</p><p> </p><p>We have Nimrood,Kansa,Hirankshyap,Balban,Ibrahim lodi or say Aurang zeb which did wrong and some of them even declared them selves to be God(another disorder).And they were destroyedby Akal some way or the other.</p><p> </p><p>So people who have opposed anrchy were not patits but rather resorers of the Old Rules which were OK and attempts to destroy them were thence folied.</p><p> </p><p>Say it in order to marry but Adultory is not.Say in Adultory some rules could be folllowed.(like in Kok Shastra) so be it good or be it Bad there is some order.</p><p> </p><p>Das can not justfy say Al Qaeda if it says that it revloutionary which wants to resotre arder by killing innocnets,Same could be treu for Musoloni or Stalin.</p><p> </p><p>Right to live for genral public is order and attempt to break it be killing innocnet is anrachy.None of our holy men did.</p><p> </p><p>das now starts to use logic of graph theory to prove that how a person who cuts his hair can be fallen.</p><p> </p><p>Say from ABC we have to reach Q</p><p> </p><p>From A WE reach Q via S,From B we reach Q Via P and from C Via R.</p><p> </p><p>So we have routes</p><p> </p><p>ASQ,BPQ and CRQ.</p><p> </p><p>We could see that all are ways to Q yet have difernt routes.</p><p> </p><p>Say from C insted of R some one takes route via T(which is done for the first time) to Q then route will be</p><p> </p><p>CTQ which in Not equal to CRQ.</p><p> </p><p>In the same way if someone becomes Patit then that persoan can reach God from other way which in this case is CTQ but that must not mean that CRQ which is tested for Long becomes usless or CTQ any becomes equal to CRQ.</p><p> </p><p>Likewise if some has to do graduation as other are doing via matricualtion.Say some one does not do matricualtion and device another way to attain graduation without doing matriculation.</p><p> </p><p>Gardulation of two typpes will not be the same.Rather way to attain both the type of graduation is onmly diifferance between the two.</p><p> </p><p>But in any way graduation via matriculation is no where supperior nor inferroir to one who confers the degree but as a matter of right persuers of type of grauduation may deem thier types as better which is thier own opinion.</p><p> </p><p>Das can say that there are three types of Patits.</p><p> </p><p>1,One who becomes Khalsa but his converters or Sangat themselves are ritualistics and devoid of knowledge of Gurmat and they tell Panth a Path noble as Dogma.In practicle life conversion becomes full of ironies to the convert and he/she leaves the fold and say cut hairs in protests.</p><p> </p><p>There but for seeking the guidance from true Sikh(which could be debrared by this wrong Sangat(Company) there may not any fault of Patit.</p><p> </p><p>Here a person has become Patit or Fallen or Patan Sheel but without his own fault.</p><p> </p><p>2,When a convert changes the appearance to suit job or matimonianl or court ship etc.There person is fallen by Greed or attachment etc.Here it is by deed of God it apparnt that it is fault of Patit himself/herself.</p><p> </p><p>3,When the person who by mercy of Akal has to be a maker of new Faith(eg Majority of Sikhs do respect Rama Kriahsna Mission inspite of its being post Gurus).Or he/she has to join another Faith.That person leaves Sikhi and join other Faith.</p><p> </p><p>That person by blessing of Akal gets salvation via other self created new way or another exisating ways.</p><p> </p><p>Then also Patit has only fault that he shoulkd have not joined Sikhism but should have gone to other faiths straight away but all is in Hand of Akal.</p><p> </p><p>But in all the three cases person can not be termed as Sikh of Khalsa order.That person could be the Sikh(desiple or follower) of Maamon(case 2),Frustration(Case1) and as per Case 3 of Jesus,Mohamud,Krishna ,Nirankari,Rama Krishna etc. etc. or some yet to come.Khalsa has not enimtiy to them but can not say that they are same to them.</p><p> </p><p>Das may not be completing the whole article today but will write what is wrong in Punjab.</p><p> </p><p>Well when Sikh rule came many Jatts who so far anti Sikh joined Panth and brot\ught ther pagan values.After Sikh rule was over they still clung in the areas ruled by pricly Sikhs states or the one near them.</p><p> </p><p>There might is right thing can be seen in the acts of Badalkis of SGPC ,the way they have removed S. Kala Afghana.</p><p> </p><p>There could be many pseudo Nihungs,Akalis,AKJs,SGPCs, Taksalis,Nirmalas etc.</p><p> </p><p>But only negivte mind will crib on them and follow them or tell thier quotieing thier misdeed.</p><p> </p><p>It is clearly stated by so Called Akali Dal Badal that it is the Punjabi Party but if it is true then what on earth is it doing in sgpc which is Sikh institution.</p><p> </p><p>Thier Jatt ego wants them to cling and throw away Singhs like Kala Afghana.</p><p> </p><p>Well people like Das does not deem them Sikh even.Guru Panth is for them 96 Crori Shiro Mani Budhadal,Sikhs from Two Takhats out side Punjab,Taksal with Sant Samaj,Real Devotees of AKJ and Followers of S. Kala Afghana Sahib.</p><p> </p><p>Das has seen most of the young jatts of so called Akalis are Sirrgum(Sirdar means leader or one who has(Dar) Head(sir or turban). Sir(Head) Gumm(is the looser) of head.As without turban his head does not has prominense visible.They were there till the time of Guru.</p><p> </p><p>Das has seen one Huqumanammah of Guru sent to Kabul teeling us Kurahits(evil acts) as well keeping of 5Ks etc and all is in Punjabi and this also tells of taking Amrit and it has date and sign of Guru.</p><p> </p><p>Das will soon conclude only with what is the logic to keep 5ks and why Akalis etc are trying to paint Patits as Sahij Dharis.(To Be continued)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vijaydeep Singh, post: 14266, member: 313"] Gurfateh Das will start and touch various aspect of this. When Das became Sikh many of his Hindu Punajbi reltives started to him that he should be Sikh by Mind.Mann Ke Sikh Banno. That is similar to one of the novel Vijai Singh of Bhai Veer Singh. Das was told to remain Sikh by heart or mind but let him retain Hindu apperance. Das has a God sister of Ludhian who was at the forefrnt while his mother was controlled by his Hindu father who is from Bihar and Ex Army Officer. Das asked the sister.Why should not a person be in appearnce what is in mind and why should be there the Duality or Dogalapan. Is it possible for das to sleep with in lady in physical state but consider her has a sister in mind. Well Gurbani talks of Tan(Body) Mann(mind) Dhan(wealth) Sabh(All) Saunpe Gur Ko(suurreder to Guru(Akal). With this logic did Das kept 5Ks. Reason for Tenth Master's not incluidng this or any of his Bani in Adi Guru Darbar was not that,His Bani was only within the time frame and had no eternal appeal.Had this been then Japu Sahib would have been added just after Japu Ji sahib.But nothing was added. Reason was that Adi Guru Darbar was to there to unite the Human Kind.But Khalsa the form of Guru was the Task force of Guru to carry oout such work even after Gurus departure and for that some exclusuve guidlines for them was needed and that was only for them and that lead to the making of other two holy books. Das thinks that Gurmat was made to resore order and Faith before them were to be retained plus a few foolproof things to be added so that Dharam(rithousness be reamain). Were First Nanak and Sanit Kabeer the rebels or restrere of the order from Anachy can be found from here. They did confronted political Anchricts or dictators who were misinterpreting the faith to fullfil there own golas and that is breaking the rules and Guru restores it. We have Nimrood,Kansa,Hirankshyap,Balban,Ibrahim lodi or say Aurang zeb which did wrong and some of them even declared them selves to be God(another disorder).And they were destroyedby Akal some way or the other. So people who have opposed anrchy were not patits but rather resorers of the Old Rules which were OK and attempts to destroy them were thence folied. Say it in order to marry but Adultory is not.Say in Adultory some rules could be folllowed.(like in Kok Shastra) so be it good or be it Bad there is some order. Das can not justfy say Al Qaeda if it says that it revloutionary which wants to resotre arder by killing innocnets,Same could be treu for Musoloni or Stalin. Right to live for genral public is order and attempt to break it be killing innocnet is anrachy.None of our holy men did. das now starts to use logic of graph theory to prove that how a person who cuts his hair can be fallen. Say from ABC we have to reach Q From A WE reach Q via S,From B we reach Q Via P and from C Via R. So we have routes ASQ,BPQ and CRQ. We could see that all are ways to Q yet have difernt routes. Say from C insted of R some one takes route via T(which is done for the first time) to Q then route will be CTQ which in Not equal to CRQ. In the same way if someone becomes Patit then that persoan can reach God from other way which in this case is CTQ but that must not mean that CRQ which is tested for Long becomes usless or CTQ any becomes equal to CRQ. Likewise if some has to do graduation as other are doing via matricualtion.Say some one does not do matricualtion and device another way to attain graduation without doing matriculation. Gardulation of two typpes will not be the same.Rather way to attain both the type of graduation is onmly diifferance between the two. But in any way graduation via matriculation is no where supperior nor inferroir to one who confers the degree but as a matter of right persuers of type of grauduation may deem thier types as better which is thier own opinion. Das can say that there are three types of Patits. 1,One who becomes Khalsa but his converters or Sangat themselves are ritualistics and devoid of knowledge of Gurmat and they tell Panth a Path noble as Dogma.In practicle life conversion becomes full of ironies to the convert and he/she leaves the fold and say cut hairs in protests. There but for seeking the guidance from true Sikh(which could be debrared by this wrong Sangat(Company) there may not any fault of Patit. Here a person has become Patit or Fallen or Patan Sheel but without his own fault. 2,When a convert changes the appearance to suit job or matimonianl or court ship etc.There person is fallen by Greed or attachment etc.Here it is by deed of God it apparnt that it is fault of Patit himself/herself. 3,When the person who by mercy of Akal has to be a maker of new Faith(eg Majority of Sikhs do respect Rama Kriahsna Mission inspite of its being post Gurus).Or he/she has to join another Faith.That person leaves Sikhi and join other Faith. That person by blessing of Akal gets salvation via other self created new way or another exisating ways. Then also Patit has only fault that he shoulkd have not joined Sikhism but should have gone to other faiths straight away but all is in Hand of Akal. But in all the three cases person can not be termed as Sikh of Khalsa order.That person could be the Sikh(desiple or follower) of Maamon(case 2),Frustration(Case1) and as per Case 3 of Jesus,Mohamud,Krishna ,Nirankari,Rama Krishna etc. etc. or some yet to come.Khalsa has not enimtiy to them but can not say that they are same to them. Das may not be completing the whole article today but will write what is wrong in Punjab. Well when Sikh rule came many Jatts who so far anti Sikh joined Panth and brot\ught ther pagan values.After Sikh rule was over they still clung in the areas ruled by pricly Sikhs states or the one near them. There might is right thing can be seen in the acts of Badalkis of SGPC ,the way they have removed S. Kala Afghana. There could be many pseudo Nihungs,Akalis,AKJs,SGPCs, Taksalis,Nirmalas etc. But only negivte mind will crib on them and follow them or tell thier quotieing thier misdeed. It is clearly stated by so Called Akali Dal Badal that it is the Punjabi Party but if it is true then what on earth is it doing in sgpc which is Sikh institution. Thier Jatt ego wants them to cling and throw away Singhs like Kala Afghana. Well people like Das does not deem them Sikh even.Guru Panth is for them 96 Crori Shiro Mani Budhadal,Sikhs from Two Takhats out side Punjab,Taksal with Sant Samaj,Real Devotees of AKJ and Followers of S. Kala Afghana Sahib. Das has seen most of the young jatts of so called Akalis are Sirrgum(Sirdar means leader or one who has(Dar) Head(sir or turban). Sir(Head) Gumm(is the looser) of head.As without turban his head does not has prominense visible.They were there till the time of Guru. Das has seen one Huqumanammah of Guru sent to Kabul teeling us Kurahits(evil acts) as well keeping of 5Ks etc and all is in Punjabi and this also tells of taking Amrit and it has date and sign of Guru. Das will soon conclude only with what is the logic to keep 5ks and why Akalis etc are trying to paint Patits as Sahij Dharis.(To Be continued) [/QUOTE]
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