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<blockquote data-quote="findingmyway" data-source="post: 135306" data-attributes="member: 12855"><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">Gurveen Singh Ji,</span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">I will attempt to answer your points as best I can but be prepared to contemplate the answers before answering. Sometimes we receive answers we do not want to hear!</span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">This is not in keeping with the ways the Guru's behaved. Why are only women treacherous? Men can also be treacherous so I do not agree with this point at all. If we follow the way of life set out in the Guru Granth Sahib Ji then we will not need to protect ourselves against treachery from man or woman as that is protection enough! Equal footing is important as Guru ji gave the sexes equality and denying that is ignoring GuruJi. Here is a famous quote from asa ki vaar:</span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"><strong>"The Guru transcends sex through sex. Women, says the Guru, are</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"><strong>the centre of life here on earth and in heaven. Man is born of woman; he is wedded to women. How can woman be outside the spiritual court, she who gives birth to the geniuses of this world?</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"><strong>Talking slander, as is done of woman, is to slander one's soul."</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen"><strong></strong></span></span><span style="color: DarkGreen">So how is dasam granth not going against Guru Granth Sahib ji in this respect?</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">Exactly it is not possible!! That is why I cannot support the dasam granth being written by Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Please give original Gurmukhi along with page references so we can check the context of the quotes you give. Taking one line alone distorts what the tuk is trying to say. Also when taking a handful of odd tuks from out of the entire book, you are bound to find a few that agree. That doesn't change the fact that most does not agree. All the other Guru's used Nanak in their bani. Why would Guru Gobind Singh Ji disprespect that and use his own name. Did he not have the same jyot? He did and that is why if he wanted to write bani he woulad have done so in the Guru Granth Sahib Ji under the name Nanak.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">Be not worried about scholars and focus on your own path.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">But in many other parts of the dasam granth devi worship si put before all else. Look at the writings in their entirety not just at small sections.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">There are many parts of the dasam granth that have been copied from various hindu texts:</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqzEcqg-vEc" target="_blank">YouTube - ReaLiTY oF DaSaM GRanTH PaRT - 1</a></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span> <span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: DarkGreen">Actually the existence of this granth does not support your support. As I said above to support the same jyot, the bani would have to be in the Guru granth Sahib Ji under then pen name Nanak. Keeping it separate implies a separate identity which we know would not have been endorsed by Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Also the Guru's did not believe in blood lines. The person was important not their genetic make up as proved by the fact that Guru Nanak Dev Ji chose an unrelated person as his successor rather than his son. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">Actually the dasam granth was written later so included words in use at the time.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span> </p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">FACT</span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">YOUR OPINION</span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">Incorrect. The messages often conflict therefore it cannot be the writing of Guru Gobind Singh Ji. If he felt that Gurbani needed expanding he would have done so in the Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Where is the sense in telling us to only follow Guru Granth Sahib Ji then writing a separate granth?</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span> </p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">Why would the Guru write something that can't be understood by the masses? I would also urge you to understand both.</span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">Then why are you disputing the supremacy of Sri Guru Granth SahibJ? Why are we arguing over a book?</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">I have views but do not want to comment on this until the SRM is reviewed. The only thing I'm going to say is that the SRM wa only written in the 20th century and is made by man. It is not as reliable as the Guru Granth Sahib Ji.</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">Do you really believe this story? How does it make any sense? How many times does Sri Guru Granth SahibJ tell us against hiding away from the world like a yogi so why would Guru Gobind Singh Ji go against all that and meditate in the mountains? Sri Guru Granth SahibJ tells us we cannot know about our past or future lives and this includes the Gurus. Sri Guru Granth SahibJ also preaches against ritualistic yatras.</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">Depends whether the ragis are understanding the kirtan they are singing and following it in their own lives or just doing it to make money. If we make it into a job rather than something all the sangat does then the same attitude will not prevail.</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">The knowledge goven is not relevant to a Sikh. It was written to confuse and divide Sikhs. More on this later in the post.</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">They obviously didn't know what they were doing. They completely disrespected Guru Gobind Singh Ji's wishes by placing a book at the same level as our current Guru. You have said that you accept Sri Guru Granth SahibJ, then how can you tolerate such disrespect to your Guru?</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">The dasam granth references bhang which is worse than alcohol.</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">Just by hearing emotional arguments about ho it was written by the tenth guru does not prove anything. We each have to make our own conclusions after doing the research.</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">The ardaas forms one tiny section even including the nitnem banis. That does not mean we have to accept the entire thing, pornography and all.</span> Many pathis who read this say openly that they are ashamed ot read some sections in public. Is that the sign of something written by our Guru?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">I have given reasons against all your reasons. the final decision is yours as I have made mine after much effort in understandign its writing.</span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span> </p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">Actually there are many holes in the history of the dasam granth including the name of it. It did not surface until many years after Guru Gobind Singh Ji was no more. It has been stealthily incorporated into the religion. There are many many sources that will verify this.</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">I could say the same about you but won't stoop to insults.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">As you don't like scholars here is a video by someone who is normal sangat like you and I, who has taken the time to read both the Sri Guru Granth SahibJ and dasam granth:</span></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JxTGE2OtM0" target="_blank">YouTube - Dasam Granth Exposed Part 1 of 6</a></p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">I really don't understand why people insist on forcing the dasam granth on others. We should be spending our time on learning and following the Guru Granth Sahib Ji. That takes up a whole lifetime, why get distracted by other things? The message of Sri Guru Granth SahibJ is so wonderful and complete that I really don't need anything else in my life.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="findingmyway, post: 135306, member: 12855"] [COLOR=DarkGreen]Gurveen Singh Ji, I will attempt to answer your points as best I can but be prepared to contemplate the answers before answering. Sometimes we receive answers we do not want to hear![/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen] This is not in keeping with the ways the Guru's behaved. Why are only women treacherous? Men can also be treacherous so I do not agree with this point at all. If we follow the way of life set out in the Guru Granth Sahib Ji then we will not need to protect ourselves against treachery from man or woman as that is protection enough! Equal footing is important as Guru ji gave the sexes equality and denying that is ignoring GuruJi. Here is a famous quote from asa ki vaar: [/COLOR][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen][B]"The Guru transcends sex through sex. Women, says the Guru, are the centre of life here on earth and in heaven. Man is born of woman; he is wedded to women. How can woman be outside the spiritual court, she who gives birth to the geniuses of this world? Talking slander, as is done of woman, is to slander one's soul." [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][COLOR=DarkGreen]So how is dasam granth not going against Guru Granth Sahib ji in this respect?[/COLOR] [SIZE=2] [COLOR=DarkGreen]Exactly it is not possible!! That is why I cannot support the dasam granth being written by Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Please give original Gurmukhi along with page references so we can check the context of the quotes you give. Taking one line alone distorts what the tuk is trying to say. Also when taking a handful of odd tuks from out of the entire book, you are bound to find a few that agree. That doesn't change the fact that most does not agree. All the other Guru's used Nanak in their bani. Why would Guru Gobind Singh Ji disprespect that and use his own name. Did he not have the same jyot? He did and that is why if he wanted to write bani he woulad have done so in the Guru Granth Sahib Ji under the name Nanak.[/COLOR] [/SIZE][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=2][/SIZE][/FONT] [COLOR=DarkGreen]Be not worried about scholars and focus on your own path.[/COLOR] [SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2] [COLOR=DarkGreen]But in many other parts of the dasam granth devi worship si put before all else. Look at the writings in their entirety not just at small sections.[/COLOR] [/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=2][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2] [COLOR=DarkGreen]There are many parts of the dasam granth that have been copied from various hindu texts:[/COLOR] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqzEcqg-vEc"]YouTube - ReaLiTY oF DaSaM GRanTH PaRT - 1[/url] [/SIZE] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkGreen]Actually the existence of this granth does not support your support. As I said above to support the same jyot, the bani would have to be in the Guru granth Sahib Ji under then pen name Nanak. Keeping it separate implies a separate identity which we know would not have been endorsed by Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Also the Guru's did not believe in blood lines. The person was important not their genetic make up as proved by the fact that Guru Nanak Dev Ji chose an unrelated person as his successor rather than his son. [/COLOR] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2] [/SIZE] [COLOR=DarkGreen]Actually the dasam granth was written later so included words in use at the time.[/COLOR] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=2][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=2][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2] [/SIZE] [COLOR=DarkGreen]FACT[/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen]YOUR OPINION[/COLOR] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=2][/SIZE][/FONT] [COLOR=DarkGreen]Incorrect. The messages often conflict therefore it cannot be the writing of Guru Gobind Singh Ji. If he felt that Gurbani needed expanding he would have done so in the Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Where is the sense in telling us to only follow Guru Granth Sahib Ji then writing a separate granth?[/COLOR] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=2][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2][/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE] [COLOR=DarkGreen]Why would the Guru write something that can't be understood by the masses? I would also urge you to understand both.[/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen]Then why are you disputing the supremacy of Sri Guru Granth SahibJ? Why are we arguing over a book?[/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen]I have views but do not want to comment on this until the SRM is reviewed. The only thing I'm going to say is that the SRM wa only written in the 20th century and is made by man. It is not as reliable as the Guru Granth Sahib Ji.[/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen]Do you really believe this story? How does it make any sense? How many times does Sri Guru Granth SahibJ tell us against hiding away from the world like a yogi so why would Guru Gobind Singh Ji go against all that and meditate in the mountains? Sri Guru Granth SahibJ tells us we cannot know about our past or future lives and this includes the Gurus. Sri Guru Granth SahibJ also preaches against ritualistic yatras.[/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen]Depends whether the ragis are understanding the kirtan they are singing and following it in their own lives or just doing it to make money. If we make it into a job rather than something all the sangat does then the same attitude will not prevail.[/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen]The knowledge goven is not relevant to a Sikh. It was written to confuse and divide Sikhs. More on this later in the post.[/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen]They obviously didn't know what they were doing. They completely disrespected Guru Gobind Singh Ji's wishes by placing a book at the same level as our current Guru. You have said that you accept Sri Guru Granth SahibJ, then how can you tolerate such disrespect to your Guru?[/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen]The dasam granth references bhang which is worse than alcohol.[/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen]Just by hearing emotional arguments about ho it was written by the tenth guru does not prove anything. We each have to make our own conclusions after doing the research.[/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen]The ardaas forms one tiny section even including the nitnem banis. That does not mean we have to accept the entire thing, pornography and all.[/COLOR] Many pathis who read this say openly that they are ashamed ot read some sections in public. Is that the sign of something written by our Guru? [COLOR=DarkGreen]I have given reasons against all your reasons. the final decision is yours as I have made mine after much effort in understandign its writing. [/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen] Actually there are many holes in the history of the dasam granth including the name of it. It did not surface until many years after Guru Gobind Singh Ji was no more. It has been stealthily incorporated into the religion. There are many many sources that will verify this.[/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen]I could say the same about you but won't stoop to insults.[/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen]As you don't like scholars here is a video by someone who is normal sangat like you and I, who has taken the time to read both the Sri Guru Granth SahibJ and dasam granth:[/COLOR] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JxTGE2OtM0"]YouTube - Dasam Granth Exposed Part 1 of 6[/url] [COLOR=DarkGreen]I really don't understand why people insist on forcing the dasam granth on others. We should be spending our time on learning and following the Guru Granth Sahib Ji. That takes up a whole lifetime, why get distracted by other things? The message of Sri Guru Granth SahibJ is so wonderful and complete that I really don't need anything else in my life.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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