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<blockquote data-quote="Luckysingh" data-source="post: 208071" data-attributes="member: 16886"><p>It's gonna be full house here again <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>Abyaas forever!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Excellent man. You stated a major fundamental about "life" and "existence"</p><p>I'm just going to add something that you already know but we don't often acknowledge or awaken to..and that is the illusion...the maya, the 5 elements, the 5 tat.</p><p></p><p>Everything made of the 5 tat is in constant change,..moment to moment as you said. This is what our mind perceives as the <em>'reality'.</em></p><p></p><p>But if the 5 tat maya is the<u> reality</u>, then what is <u>realization</u>?</p><p>Funny, because <em>"realization"</em> is actually realising the reality which is perceived by our mind is <u>not</u> the reality and <u>not</u> the truth.</p><p>WHY?</p><p>because the Truth is aad jugaad,hai bhi, hosi,,,,, He always was, always is and will always remain "as is" Truth does not change, He is not in constant variation or shift. He stays as he always was and always will be</p><p></p><p><em><strong>Kabir ji says...</strong></em></p><p></p><p><em><strong>ਨਾ ਓਹੁ ਬਢੈ ਨ ਘਟਤਾ ਜਾਇ ॥</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Nā oh badẖai na gẖatṯā jā▫e.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>God does not increase or decrease.</strong></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><strong><em>ਅਕੁਲ ਨਿਰੰਜਨ ਏਕੈ ਭਾਇ ॥੩॥</em></strong></p><p><strong><em>Akul niranjan ekai bẖā▫e. ||3||</em></strong></p><p><strong><em>He is unknowable and immaculate; He does</em> <em>not change. ||3||</em></strong></p><p></p><p>Why does the MInd perceive the reality as the changing maya that is made of 5 tat?</p><p>Because the Mind itself is made of 5 tat! (non-spiritualists won't get <em>what man tu jyot saroop hai</em> really means)</p><p></p><p>Gurbani confirms what I'm saying-</p><p></p><p><em><strong>ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਪੰਚ ਤਤੁ ਤੇ ਜਨਮਾ ॥</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Ih man pancẖ ṯaṯ ṯe janmā.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>This mind is born of the five elements.</strong></em></p><p></p><p>The unchanging "truth" our almighty lord Waheguru, is NOT made of 5 elements. Gurbani also tells us-</p><p></p><p><em><strong>ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਰੇਖ ਨ ਪੰਚ ਤਤ ਠਾਕੁਰ ਅਬਿਨਾਸ ॥੨॥</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Rūp na rekẖ na pancẖ ṯaṯ ṯẖākur abinās. ||2||</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>He has no form or outline, and He is not made of the five elements; our Lord and Master is imperishable. ||2||</strong></em></p><p></p><p>Beloved Kabirji confirms.the mind is in constant change and living off the 5 elements in maya-</p><p></p><p><strong><em>ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਪੰਚ ਤਤ ਕੋ ਜੀਉ ॥</em></strong></p><p><strong><em>Ih man pancẖ ṯaṯ ko jī▫o.</em></strong></p><p><strong><em>This mind is the life of the five elements </em></strong></p><p></p><p>We are changing and everything in the universe, under the influence of 5 tats, is also changing., But behind all of this somewhere is the unchanging "ultimate reality".... the True one, the all knower and the doer.</p><p></p><p>Q; How do we find this True one that knows all?</p><p>By lifting this veil of 5 tats that makes the mind and everything that it perceives.</p><p>This is where we have to try and "stop" or "still" the<em> changing </em>mind. To still is to move to this nothingness where there is no <em>"I" (remember the "I'' is always changing)</em> ...the<em> "I"</em> is the ego.</p><p>To become SELFLESS through realising the absence of real ego, is the practice of all paths.</p><p>Find the UNCHANGING reality, the True Reality, the True Jyot. Here there is no <em>"I"</em> that exists, there is no ego....this is what is called being selfless.</p><p></p><p>Kabir ji says-</p><p></p><p><em><strong>ਜਹ ਕਛੁ ਅਹਾ ਤਹਾ ਕਿਛੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਪੰਚ ਤਤੁ ਤਹ ਨਾਹੀ ॥</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Jah kacẖẖ ahā ṯahā kicẖẖ nāhī pancẖ ṯaṯ ṯah nāhī.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Where something existed, now there is nothing. The five elements are no longer there.</strong></em></p><p></p><p></p><p>Every path or faith tells us to forget about Ego in order to "become more spiritual" or more 'Sikh" However, ordinary followers ignore this injunction because the task seems way too difficult. As a result, these followers identify with their physical bodies or with their thoughts or experiences and mistakenly take this "other" as their true self.</p><p></p><p>The 2nd reason that followers can't become selfless is because they do not know how to detach from the seductive pull of 5 tat maya. Gurbani tells us to detach and disassociate from maya, which actually stems to detaching from 5 tats that are not only in what we perceive around us, but also in what makes up our "running in 10 directions" mind. They don't understand the process of purifying, the japna to get away from the "forever changing" 5 tat maya to the non-changing stillness and truth. They become at loss when it comes to the task of spiritual cultivation. I say <em>"cultivation"</em> because Gurbani tuks about sowing and reaping seeds are not all about karams, (<em>wont cross-reference here now to go off current discussion.) </em>they are also about the spiritual practice efforts you make and the gurprasad grace that will follow. Gurprasad and grace doesn't come from <u><em>'above to --> down'</em></u> if you've no efforts of going from<em><u> 'down to-->above'</u></em></p><p></p><p> </p><p>This brings me to another area of different discussion that also stems from the same 5 tat-changing-selves,...and that is "mukhti" or liberation. Mukhti is to be FREE from the 5 tat existence of change. Free from the changing and repeating cycles of birth and death. Liberated from the changing 5 element maya.</p><p></p><p>Japo Saas saas simro gobind,</p><p>saas saas to master that 1st element/tat of Air.</p><p> Q:Why Air first?</p><p>Air is the Guru of maya, since "pavan guru, pane pitaa, mata dharth...".</p><p></p><p>I better just stop here, because I will go on and on. I will have to get back to my simran <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Luckysingh, post: 208071, member: 16886"] It's gonna be full house here again ;) Abyaas forever! Excellent man. You stated a major fundamental about "life" and "existence" I'm just going to add something that you already know but we don't often acknowledge or awaken to..and that is the illusion...the maya, the 5 elements, the 5 tat. Everything made of the 5 tat is in constant change,..moment to moment as you said. This is what our mind perceives as the [I]'reality'.[/I] But if the 5 tat maya is the[U] reality[/U], then what is [U]realization[/U]? Funny, because [I]"realization"[/I] is actually realising the reality which is perceived by our mind is [U]not[/U] the reality and [U]not[/U] the truth. WHY? because the Truth is aad jugaad,hai bhi, hosi,,,,, He always was, always is and will always remain "as is" Truth does not change, He is not in constant variation or shift. He stays as he always was and always will be [I][B]Kabir ji says...[/B][/I] [I][B]ਨਾ ਓਹੁ ਬਢੈ ਨ ਘਟਤਾ ਜਾਇ ॥ Nā oh badẖai na gẖatṯā jā▫e. God does not increase or decrease.[/B] [/I] [B][I]ਅਕੁਲ ਨਿਰੰਜਨ ਏਕੈ ਭਾਇ ॥੩॥ Akul niranjan ekai bẖā▫e. ||3|| He is unknowable and immaculate; He does[/I] [I]not change. ||3||[/I][/B] Why does the MInd perceive the reality as the changing maya that is made of 5 tat? Because the Mind itself is made of 5 tat! (non-spiritualists won't get [I]what man tu jyot saroop hai[/I] really means) Gurbani confirms what I'm saying- [I][B]ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਪੰਚ ਤਤੁ ਤੇ ਜਨਮਾ ॥ Ih man pancẖ ṯaṯ ṯe janmā. This mind is born of the five elements.[/B][/I] The unchanging "truth" our almighty lord Waheguru, is NOT made of 5 elements. Gurbani also tells us- [I][B]ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਰੇਖ ਨ ਪੰਚ ਤਤ ਠਾਕੁਰ ਅਬਿਨਾਸ ॥੨॥ Rūp na rekẖ na pancẖ ṯaṯ ṯẖākur abinās. ||2|| He has no form or outline, and He is not made of the five elements; our Lord and Master is imperishable. ||2||[/B][/I] Beloved Kabirji confirms.the mind is in constant change and living off the 5 elements in maya- [B][I]ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਪੰਚ ਤਤ ਕੋ ਜੀਉ ॥ Ih man pancẖ ṯaṯ ko jī▫o. This mind is the life of the five elements [/I][/B] We are changing and everything in the universe, under the influence of 5 tats, is also changing., But behind all of this somewhere is the unchanging "ultimate reality".... the True one, the all knower and the doer. Q; How do we find this True one that knows all? By lifting this veil of 5 tats that makes the mind and everything that it perceives. This is where we have to try and "stop" or "still" the[I] changing [/I]mind. To still is to move to this nothingness where there is no [I]"I" (remember the "I'' is always changing)[/I] ...the[I] "I"[/I] is the ego. To become SELFLESS through realising the absence of real ego, is the practice of all paths. Find the UNCHANGING reality, the True Reality, the True Jyot. Here there is no [I]"I"[/I] that exists, there is no ego....this is what is called being selfless. Kabir ji says- [I][B]ਜਹ ਕਛੁ ਅਹਾ ਤਹਾ ਕਿਛੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਪੰਚ ਤਤੁ ਤਹ ਨਾਹੀ ॥ Jah kacẖẖ ahā ṯahā kicẖẖ nāhī pancẖ ṯaṯ ṯah nāhī. Where something existed, now there is nothing. The five elements are no longer there.[/B][/I] Every path or faith tells us to forget about Ego in order to "become more spiritual" or more 'Sikh" However, ordinary followers ignore this injunction because the task seems way too difficult. As a result, these followers identify with their physical bodies or with their thoughts or experiences and mistakenly take this "other" as their true self. The 2nd reason that followers can't become selfless is because they do not know how to detach from the seductive pull of 5 tat maya. Gurbani tells us to detach and disassociate from maya, which actually stems to detaching from 5 tats that are not only in what we perceive around us, but also in what makes up our "running in 10 directions" mind. They don't understand the process of purifying, the japna to get away from the "forever changing" 5 tat maya to the non-changing stillness and truth. They become at loss when it comes to the task of spiritual cultivation. I say [I]"cultivation"[/I] because Gurbani tuks about sowing and reaping seeds are not all about karams, ([I]wont cross-reference here now to go off current discussion.) [/I]they are also about the spiritual practice efforts you make and the gurprasad grace that will follow. Gurprasad and grace doesn't come from [U][I]'above to --> down'[/I][/U] if you've no efforts of going from[I][U] 'down to-->above'[/U][/I] This brings me to another area of different discussion that also stems from the same 5 tat-changing-selves,...and that is "mukhti" or liberation. Mukhti is to be FREE from the 5 tat existence of change. Free from the changing and repeating cycles of birth and death. Liberated from the changing 5 element maya. Japo Saas saas simro gobind, saas saas to master that 1st element/tat of Air. Q:Why Air first? Air is the Guru of maya, since "pavan guru, pane pitaa, mata dharth...". I better just stop here, because I will go on and on. I will have to get back to my simran :) [/QUOTE]
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