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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="InduBhushanDas" data-source="post: 215295" data-attributes="member: 21988"><p>I'm sorry, can I discuss on the subject here?</p><p>I consider myself a devotee of Lord Krishna, though, I was doing philosophy/religious studies, and am looking for common things in religions. So now I am intertested in common views on Vishnu and His avatars in sikhism and vaishnavism.</p><p></p><p>First, I have to say I am from Ukraine, and we have here a strong influence of Russia and its Christian Orthodox Church. So one man (sectologist) named Dvorkin wrote in his nook that "in sikhism Krishna is considered one of most scary demons. In mythology of jains and buddhists, Krishna is a negative figure. For buddhists Krishna is a head of black demons, enemies of Buddha"</p><p></p><p>So I am here to find out what is really oppinion of sikhs about Krishna.</p><p></p><p>As I know, sikhism is a link between abrahamic religions and hinduism, so it may share some christian views (through islam), though not completely, as it largely uses sanskrit words, Vedic names like Prahlad, Vishnu, Krishna, Rama, Nrisimha, Hari, Brahma, Shiva etc.</p><p></p><p>I made a little research, and found out that Bible starts with words "Elohim created earth and sky". Then, some people say, that Rigveda itself begins with words "Agnim Ile", which means "I worship Agni". Thus Ile has root IL which means "worship". And Elohim comes from sanskrit IL.</p><p></p><p>Yahweh of Judaism also has parallels with Vedas. In some vedic hymn, there is a prayer to Yahva, who is Agni. Thus Yahwa in translated by some as Lord (meaning Agni). Also Yahwa is addressing all devatas, gods of Vedic pantheon. So Yahweh of Judaism comes from Yahwa of sanskrit.</p><p></p><p>Now, I see that Ek Omkar is a name of Supreme God in sikhism. That's very good. I love mantra OM. Though, in Krishna consciousness movement, we would say that AUM means Krishna, Radharani and a soul.</p><p></p><p>So, ultimately OM means Krishna and His energies. This is a gaudiya-vaishnava philosophy of Lord Chaitanya, who is considered as avatara of Krishna by us.</p><p></p><p>I found more quotes from sikhism - <a href="http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Krishna" target="_blank">Krishna - SikhiWiki, free Sikh encyclopedia.</a></p><p></p><p>So I am puzzlede about what view on Krihsna is more acceptable in sikhism. Is he worshippable God for all (or at least most) sikhs? I found in sikh scriptures that Vishnu created all universes, and we agree with it. But Krishna expanded as Maha-Vishnu, then last as Vishnus, from whom Brahmas were created on lotuses. Then Brahma created 14 planetary systems which are known as 7 skies and 7 lands in abrahamic religions.</p><p></p><p>Bible says that on 3rd day grass or plants were created. This is same as creating Lotuses from navels of Vishnus. Then on 4th day, Elohim (IL) created planets, sun, stars, moon. That is creation of planets by Brahma from seeds which were in lotus.</p><p></p><p>Well, I can say a lot, I do compare Abrahamic religions with Hinduism, and I thin we can talk about some more common ideas in these religions. It is interesting to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="InduBhushanDas, post: 215295, member: 21988"] I'm sorry, can I discuss on the subject here? I consider myself a devotee of Lord Krishna, though, I was doing philosophy/religious studies, and am looking for common things in religions. So now I am intertested in common views on Vishnu and His avatars in sikhism and vaishnavism. First, I have to say I am from Ukraine, and we have here a strong influence of Russia and its Christian Orthodox Church. So one man (sectologist) named Dvorkin wrote in his nook that "in sikhism Krishna is considered one of most scary demons. In mythology of jains and buddhists, Krishna is a negative figure. For buddhists Krishna is a head of black demons, enemies of Buddha" So I am here to find out what is really oppinion of sikhs about Krishna. As I know, sikhism is a link between abrahamic religions and hinduism, so it may share some christian views (through islam), though not completely, as it largely uses sanskrit words, Vedic names like Prahlad, Vishnu, Krishna, Rama, Nrisimha, Hari, Brahma, Shiva etc. I made a little research, and found out that Bible starts with words "Elohim created earth and sky". Then, some people say, that Rigveda itself begins with words "Agnim Ile", which means "I worship Agni". Thus Ile has root IL which means "worship". And Elohim comes from sanskrit IL. Yahweh of Judaism also has parallels with Vedas. In some vedic hymn, there is a prayer to Yahva, who is Agni. Thus Yahwa in translated by some as Lord (meaning Agni). Also Yahwa is addressing all devatas, gods of Vedic pantheon. So Yahweh of Judaism comes from Yahwa of sanskrit. Now, I see that Ek Omkar is a name of Supreme God in sikhism. That's very good. I love mantra OM. Though, in Krishna consciousness movement, we would say that AUM means Krishna, Radharani and a soul. So, ultimately OM means Krishna and His energies. This is a gaudiya-vaishnava philosophy of Lord Chaitanya, who is considered as avatara of Krishna by us. I found more quotes from sikhism - [URL='http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Krishna']Krishna - SikhiWiki, free Sikh encyclopedia.[/URL] So I am puzzlede about what view on Krihsna is more acceptable in sikhism. Is he worshippable God for all (or at least most) sikhs? I found in sikh scriptures that Vishnu created all universes, and we agree with it. But Krishna expanded as Maha-Vishnu, then last as Vishnus, from whom Brahmas were created on lotuses. Then Brahma created 14 planetary systems which are known as 7 skies and 7 lands in abrahamic religions. Bible says that on 3rd day grass or plants were created. This is same as creating Lotuses from navels of Vishnus. Then on 4th day, Elohim (IL) created planets, sun, stars, moon. That is creation of planets by Brahma from seeds which were in lotus. Well, I can say a lot, I do compare Abrahamic religions with Hinduism, and I thin we can talk about some more common ideas in these religions. It is interesting to me. [/QUOTE]
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