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<blockquote data-quote="Khalistani_lion" data-source="post: 165179" data-attributes="member: 1940"><p>No, nobody would suggest that. Then, Why would someone suggest to not Pronounce Unkar Sihari to last Akhar that signify Noun or Verb (as you equating Capital Letters to Aunkar Sihari)?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Then these Capital Letters (aunkar Sihari to last letter as you saying in above line) should be pronounced as we pronounce them in English. </p><p>Not ALL but Aunkar Sihari to Last AKhar? This is what your previous post indicates:</p><p></p><p>Here again you are comparing Apples with Oranges. Giani Ji English language is changing like every other language does, Punjabi language is changing too. Shakespearean English language had different pronunciation than today’s language. But, it does not mean that they change Shakespearean language, they pronounce it exactly it was being spoken at Shakespearean time. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Instead of stepping out of the box, let’s blame it on RSS. </p><p>It’s well said in this book: </p><p>If you start to think the problem is "out there," stop yourself. That thought is the problem. (- 7 Habits of Most Effective People)</p><p></p><p></p><p>My computer is freezing. RSS failed to harm me from their website, NOW the SECOND LINE of Attack is sending viruses to my computer. peacesign</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Dass’s benti is if we are not sure about something, we shouldn’t discourage others from going in right direction. I just saw this pronunciation topic few days ago and read you posts on bigging up Prof. Sahib Singh and dissing other Gursikhs. Now, you will say what a rediculous comment, let me cite it:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>ਸਾਰੇ ਗੁਰਸਿੱਖਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਇੱਕੋ ਪੱਲੜੇ ਵਿੱਚ ਨਹੀਂ ਤੋਲੀਦਾ ਜੀ।</p><p></p><p>Giani Ji, you are saying “Deflated their tyres”, but this is what Bhai Gurdas Sahib Ji says about Saadhs:</p><p></p><p>ਕਿਤੜੇ ਸਾਧ ਵਖਾਣੀਅਨਿ ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਵਿਚਿ ਪਰਉਪਕਾਰੀ।</p><p>Many sadhus are there who move in the holy congregation and are benevolent.</p><p></p><p></p><p>ਕੇਤੜਿਆ ਲਖ ਸੰਤ ਜਨ ਕੇਤੜਿਆ ਨਿਜ ਭਗਤਿ ਭੰਡਾਰੀ।</p><p>Millions of saints are there who continuously go on filling the coffers of their devotion.</p><p></p><p>ਕੇਤੜਿਆ ਜੀਵਨ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਵੀਚਾਰੀ।</p><p>Many are liberated in life; they have knowledge of Brahm and meditate upon Brahm.</p><p></p><p>ਕੇਤੜਿਆ ਸਮਦਰਸੀਆ ਕੇਤੜਿਆ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰੀ।</p><p>Many are egalitarians and many more are spotless, clean and followers of the formless Lord.</p><p></p><p></p><p>ਕਿਤੜੇ ਲਖ ਬਿਬੇਕੀਆ ਕਿਤੜੇ ਦੇਹ ਬਿਦੇਹ ਅਕਾਰੀ।</p><p>Many are there with analytical wisdom; many are body less though they have bodies i.e. they are above the desires of body.</p><p></p><p>ਭਾਇ ਭਗਤਿ ਭੈ ਵਰਤਣਾ ਸਹਜ ਸਮਾਧਿ ਬੈਰਾਗ ਸਵਾਰੀ।</p><p>They conduct themselves in loving devotion and make equipoise and detachment their vehicle to move around.</p><p></p><p>ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸੁਖ ਫਲ ਗਰਬੁ ਨਿਵਾਰੀ ॥੧੪॥</p><p>Erasing ego from the self, gurmukhs obtain the fruits of the supreme delight.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Yea Giani Ji, whole Sikh religion was doing Ardaasan to Guru Sahib Ji to send Prof. Sahib Singh to this earth to teach them Passive Active...all parts of Grammar. Even, Guru Sahib Ji didn’t know about Grammar that’s why they didn’t teach it to Sikhs. Thanks God, Prof. Sahib Singh Ji was born! All Talsaals and Mahanpursh...repeating after repeating earlier mahapursh just wasted their lives in repeating only. Thanks, Prof. Sahib Singh Ji!! </p><p> </p><p></p><p>Again Giani Ji you are questioning Bhai Sahib Ji’s Kabit in your post by showing lack of trust (ਸ਼ਰਧਾ) in Bhai Sahib Ji’s word. Bhai Sahib Ji is not telling you to give away Mandirs of Gold, he is saying that you will get quivalent Phall of giving away Mandirs of Gold. It has nothing to do with what Daswand you pay or not.</p><p>Kabit:</p><p></p><p>ਪੰਚ ਬਾਰ ਗੰਗ ਜਾਇ ਬਾਰ ਪੰਚ ਪ੍ਰਾਗ ਨਾਇ ਤੈਸਾ ਪੁੰਨ ਏਕ ਗੁਰਸਿਖ ਕਉ ਨਵਾਏ ਕਾ। </p><p>ਸਿਖ ਕਉ ਪਿਲਾਇ ਪਾਨੀ ਭਾਉ ਕਰ ਕੁਰਖੇਤ ਅਸ੍ਵਮੇਧ ਜਗ ਫਲ ਸਿਖ ਕਉ ਜਿਵਾਏ ਕਾ।</p><p>ਜੈਸੇ ਸਤ ਮੰਦਰ ਕੰਚਨ ਕੇ ਉਸਾਰ ਦੀਨੇ ਤੈਸਾ ਪੁੰਨ ਸਿਖ ਕਉ ਇਕ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਸਿਖਾਏ ਕਾ।</p><p>ਜੈਸੇ ਬੀਸ ਬਾਰ ਦਰਸਨ ਸਾਧ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਹੂ ਤੈਸਾ ਫਲ ਸਿਖ ਕਉ ਚਾਪ ਪਗ ਸੁਆਏ ਕਾ॥</p><p></p><p>Giani Ji, Daas is not finding faults, but the problem is that all your answers are biased to Prof. Sahib Singh Ji. You are seeing everything through Prof. Sahib Singh Ji’s glasses.</p><p> </p><p>Daas Khima da Jachak aa Ji.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Khalistani_lion, post: 165179, member: 1940"] No, nobody would suggest that. Then, Why would someone suggest to not Pronounce Unkar Sihari to last Akhar that signify Noun or Verb (as you equating Capital Letters to Aunkar Sihari)? Then these Capital Letters (aunkar Sihari to last letter as you saying in above line) should be pronounced as we pronounce them in English. Not ALL but Aunkar Sihari to Last AKhar? This is what your previous post indicates: Here again you are comparing Apples with Oranges. Giani Ji English language is changing like every other language does, Punjabi language is changing too. Shakespearean English language had different pronunciation than today’s language. But, it does not mean that they change Shakespearean language, they pronounce it exactly it was being spoken at Shakespearean time. Instead of stepping out of the box, let’s blame it on RSS. It’s well said in this book: If you start to think the problem is "out there," stop yourself. That thought is the problem. (- 7 Habits of Most Effective People) My computer is freezing. RSS failed to harm me from their website, NOW the SECOND LINE of Attack is sending viruses to my computer. peacesign Dass’s benti is if we are not sure about something, we shouldn’t discourage others from going in right direction. I just saw this pronunciation topic few days ago and read you posts on bigging up Prof. Sahib Singh and dissing other Gursikhs. Now, you will say what a rediculous comment, let me cite it: ਸਾਰੇ ਗੁਰਸਿੱਖਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਇੱਕੋ ਪੱਲੜੇ ਵਿੱਚ ਨਹੀਂ ਤੋਲੀਦਾ ਜੀ। Giani Ji, you are saying “Deflated their tyres”, but this is what Bhai Gurdas Sahib Ji says about Saadhs: ਕਿਤੜੇ ਸਾਧ ਵਖਾਣੀਅਨਿ ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਵਿਚਿ ਪਰਉਪਕਾਰੀ। Many sadhus are there who move in the holy congregation and are benevolent. ਕੇਤੜਿਆ ਲਖ ਸੰਤ ਜਨ ਕੇਤੜਿਆ ਨਿਜ ਭਗਤਿ ਭੰਡਾਰੀ। Millions of saints are there who continuously go on filling the coffers of their devotion. ਕੇਤੜਿਆ ਜੀਵਨ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਵੀਚਾਰੀ। Many are liberated in life; they have knowledge of Brahm and meditate upon Brahm. ਕੇਤੜਿਆ ਸਮਦਰਸੀਆ ਕੇਤੜਿਆ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰੀ। Many are egalitarians and many more are spotless, clean and followers of the formless Lord. ਕਿਤੜੇ ਲਖ ਬਿਬੇਕੀਆ ਕਿਤੜੇ ਦੇਹ ਬਿਦੇਹ ਅਕਾਰੀ। Many are there with analytical wisdom; many are body less though they have bodies i.e. they are above the desires of body. ਭਾਇ ਭਗਤਿ ਭੈ ਵਰਤਣਾ ਸਹਜ ਸਮਾਧਿ ਬੈਰਾਗ ਸਵਾਰੀ। They conduct themselves in loving devotion and make equipoise and detachment their vehicle to move around. ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸੁਖ ਫਲ ਗਰਬੁ ਨਿਵਾਰੀ ॥੧੪॥ Erasing ego from the self, gurmukhs obtain the fruits of the supreme delight. Yea Giani Ji, whole Sikh religion was doing Ardaasan to Guru Sahib Ji to send Prof. Sahib Singh to this earth to teach them Passive Active...all parts of Grammar. Even, Guru Sahib Ji didn’t know about Grammar that’s why they didn’t teach it to Sikhs. Thanks God, Prof. Sahib Singh Ji was born! All Talsaals and Mahanpursh...repeating after repeating earlier mahapursh just wasted their lives in repeating only. Thanks, Prof. Sahib Singh Ji!! Again Giani Ji you are questioning Bhai Sahib Ji’s Kabit in your post by showing lack of trust (ਸ਼ਰਧਾ) in Bhai Sahib Ji’s word. Bhai Sahib Ji is not telling you to give away Mandirs of Gold, he is saying that you will get quivalent Phall of giving away Mandirs of Gold. It has nothing to do with what Daswand you pay or not. Kabit: ਪੰਚ ਬਾਰ ਗੰਗ ਜਾਇ ਬਾਰ ਪੰਚ ਪ੍ਰਾਗ ਨਾਇ ਤੈਸਾ ਪੁੰਨ ਏਕ ਗੁਰਸਿਖ ਕਉ ਨਵਾਏ ਕਾ। ਸਿਖ ਕਉ ਪਿਲਾਇ ਪਾਨੀ ਭਾਉ ਕਰ ਕੁਰਖੇਤ ਅਸ੍ਵਮੇਧ ਜਗ ਫਲ ਸਿਖ ਕਉ ਜਿਵਾਏ ਕਾ। ਜੈਸੇ ਸਤ ਮੰਦਰ ਕੰਚਨ ਕੇ ਉਸਾਰ ਦੀਨੇ ਤੈਸਾ ਪੁੰਨ ਸਿਖ ਕਉ ਇਕ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਸਿਖਾਏ ਕਾ। ਜੈਸੇ ਬੀਸ ਬਾਰ ਦਰਸਨ ਸਾਧ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਹੂ ਤੈਸਾ ਫਲ ਸਿਖ ਕਉ ਚਾਪ ਪਗ ਸੁਆਏ ਕਾ॥ Giani Ji, Daas is not finding faults, but the problem is that all your answers are biased to Prof. Sahib Singh Ji. You are seeing everything through Prof. Sahib Singh Ji’s glasses. Daas Khima da Jachak aa Ji. [/QUOTE]
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