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Composition, Arrangement & Layout
ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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Bachittar Natak
Compilation Of Dasam Granth By Kuldip Singh
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<blockquote data-quote="ballym" data-source="post: 120384" data-attributes="member: 2772"><p>Is it necessary to be Amritdhari to discuss authenticity of dasam Granth? If so, disregard whatever I say because I am ineligible.</p><p>A thorough research methodology looks at any issue with standard , systematic approach. It asks basic questions like:</p><p> Is the sampling proper? Is the result reproducible?</p><p> Likewise, Historical research must have standard questions and points for proving or disproving anything.</p><p> Has such process ever taken up apart from SGPC meeting which do not seem to be( I am not judging here) methodical. Are these meetings truely democratic in real sense.( America is a democracy... you have freedom but can you differ from your boss? if yes how many times?)</p><p>Each such research has its term of reference which must be complete and thorough so that the reasearch gives desired answers (unlike 1984 riots commissions which kept on saying that this point or that point was not in their term of reference and they did not check it!!)</p><p>As per my understanding, Dasam Guru's writings must be matched with what was happening around, what kind of direction he gave during his lifetime. What else he has written during that time.</p><p> Simply saying that He can not be questioned is not right. It is not Our Guru's Bani I am questuioning. Why is it not possible that part of it was not from His pen. Why did he not preach what he wrote?</p><p> Why did he organise important history making Khalsa Saajna in 1699 but never cautioned Sarbat Khalsa about Tiriya Charittar during that sarbat khalsa? Does the Granth Saahib say that " Beware of a bad ladies' behaviour but you must face it because you must also marry and have a grihasth( Married) Life. Does those verses teach you about married life, how to raise children, how to treat neighbours, how to identify enemy, how to check a deceiving friend which is very very important. Inmy view, more important than being beware of tiriya charittar. And my favorite line... why no other eligion thought it that important to caution people in such great details? Why not other Gurus?</p><p> After one reads through the material on this website and reasearch material elsewhere, one can say for sure that Guru ji did not compose all what ever is stated as His writings.</p><p> Look at current efforts to make Bhindranwale as 11th or some other Gurudom. After some years , it will be taken as truth if we do not act now.</p><p> BTW... sikhsangat.com also behaves in same way as Panthic.org. They do not accept ANY objction to Sri Dasam Granth.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ballym, post: 120384, member: 2772"] Is it necessary to be Amritdhari to discuss authenticity of dasam Granth? If so, disregard whatever I say because I am ineligible. A thorough research methodology looks at any issue with standard , systematic approach. It asks basic questions like: Is the sampling proper? Is the result reproducible? Likewise, Historical research must have standard questions and points for proving or disproving anything. Has such process ever taken up apart from SGPC meeting which do not seem to be( I am not judging here) methodical. Are these meetings truely democratic in real sense.( America is a democracy... you have freedom but can you differ from your boss? if yes how many times?) Each such research has its term of reference which must be complete and thorough so that the reasearch gives desired answers (unlike 1984 riots commissions which kept on saying that this point or that point was not in their term of reference and they did not check it!!) As per my understanding, Dasam Guru's writings must be matched with what was happening around, what kind of direction he gave during his lifetime. What else he has written during that time. Simply saying that He can not be questioned is not right. It is not Our Guru's Bani I am questuioning. Why is it not possible that part of it was not from His pen. Why did he not preach what he wrote? Why did he organise important history making Khalsa Saajna in 1699 but never cautioned Sarbat Khalsa about Tiriya Charittar during that sarbat khalsa? Does the Granth Saahib say that " Beware of a bad ladies' behaviour but you must face it because you must also marry and have a grihasth( Married) Life. Does those verses teach you about married life, how to raise children, how to treat neighbours, how to identify enemy, how to check a deceiving friend which is very very important. Inmy view, more important than being beware of tiriya charittar. And my favorite line... why no other eligion thought it that important to caution people in such great details? Why not other Gurus? After one reads through the material on this website and reasearch material elsewhere, one can say for sure that Guru ji did not compose all what ever is stated as His writings. Look at current efforts to make Bhindranwale as 11th or some other Gurudom. After some years , it will be taken as truth if we do not act now. BTW... sikhsangat.com also behaves in same way as Panthic.org. They do not accept ANY objction to Sri Dasam Granth. [/QUOTE]
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