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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Archived_Member16" data-source="post: 55551" data-attributes="member: 884"><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #810081"><a href="http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20070625&fname=ZCol+Puri&sid=1" target="_blank"><u>http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20070625&fname=ZCol+Puri&sid=1</u></a></span></span></span> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #af0e25">Magazine| </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #af0e25">Jun 25, 2007 </span></span></span></p><p><img src="http://www.outlookindia.com/images/space.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #939393">column</span></span></span></p><p><img src="http://www.outlookindia.com/images/space.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #af0e25"><strong>Bull's Eye </strong></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: navy"><img src="http://www.outlookindia.com/images/space.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></span></p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>In India, people don't choose the leadership. Leaders choose the people. So why not scrap elections? Let dynasties elect saffronites or secularists, forwards or backwards as the real people of India.</strong></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: navy"><img src="http://www.outlookindia.com/images/space.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></span></p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 9px">RAJINDER PURI </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 26px">O</span></span>ur present political system is unsatisfactory. It has been pointed out that the actual number of voters who elect even single-party governments is a mere fraction of the total electorate. Too many parties have mushroomed to wreck the system. President A.P.J. Abdul Kalam suggested a two-party system. Alas, there is no magic wand to accomplish it. Arun Shourie wants a directly elected president. Alas, for that the present Constitution must be scrapped. But if the present Constitution has to be changed, there are better alternatives than the American constitution. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: navy">The trouble with our thinkers is that they focus on ground realities. They need to focus on the roof realities. The multitude is on the ground. Fifty-odd dynasties that rule India stand on the roof. </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p> <span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: navy"><strong>These are the dynasties of Sonia Gandhi, Karunanidhi, Mulayam Singh Yadav, Sharad Pawar, Farooq Abdullah, Jaswant Singh, Murli Deora, late Rajesh Pilot, the late Madhav Rao Scindia, Om Prakash Chautala, Parkash Singh Badal, the late Charan Singh, Maneka Gandhi, the late Pramod Mahajan, Balasaheb Thackeray, Ramadoss... okay, okay! There may be more than 50 dynasties. There may be even a hundred. But that isn't saying much.</strong> </span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: navy">We all know who the dynasties are. But we're never sure who the people are. Sometimes secularists are the real people of India. At other times, saffronite Hindus are the real people of India. Or perhaps the OBCs may be the real people. Sometimes even Dalits become the real people of India. Sometimes there are combinations that make real people. Right now, Brahmins and Dalits are the people of Uttar Pradesh. Recently, Yadavs and Muslims were the people of Uttar Pradesh. Sometimes there are even disputes about who the real Scheduled Tribes are. Very recently Gujjars and Meenas were battling it out because they couldn't decide who the real Scheduled Tribe was.</span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"> <span style="color: navy">So how must we determine who the people of India are? Why, the dynasties on the roof tell us that. The dynasties don't change. But the people keep changing. This leads one to a profound truth. In India, people don't choose the leadership. Leaders choose the people. So why not scrap elections? Citizens should stop voting for leaders. Let leaders vote for the people. Let dynasties elect saffronites or secularists, forwards or backwards as the real people of India. This will give us a genuine, representative, low-cost democracy. As many ancient, wise philosophers almost said: <strong>Let there be a government of the dynasties, for the dynasties, by the dynasties. </strong></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Archived_Member16, post: 55551, member: 884"] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#810081][URL="http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20070625&fname=ZCol+Puri&sid=1"][U]http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20070625&fname=ZCol+Puri&sid=1[/U][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=1][COLOR=#af0e25]Magazine| [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=1][COLOR=#af0e25]Jun 25, 2007 [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [IMG]http://www.outlookindia.com/images/space.gif[/IMG] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=1][COLOR=#939393]column[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [IMG]http://www.outlookindia.com/images/space.gif[/IMG] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=5][COLOR=#af0e25][B]Bull's Eye [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [COLOR=navy][IMG]http://www.outlookindia.com/images/space.gif[/IMG][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][B]In India, people don't choose the leadership. Leaders choose the people. So why not scrap elections? Let dynasties elect saffronites or secularists, forwards or backwards as the real people of India.[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][IMG]http://www.outlookindia.com/images/space.gif[/IMG][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Arial][SIZE=1]RAJINDER PURI [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=navy][FONT=Arial][SIZE=7]O[/SIZE][/FONT]ur present political system is unsatisfactory. It has been pointed out that the actual number of voters who elect even single-party governments is a mere fraction of the total electorate. Too many parties have mushroomed to wreck the system. President A.P.J. Abdul Kalam suggested a two-party system. Alas, there is no magic wand to accomplish it. Arun Shourie wants a directly elected president. Alas, for that the present Constitution must be scrapped. But if the present Constitution has to be changed, there are better alternatives than the American constitution. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=2][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000][COLOR=navy]The trouble with our thinkers is that they focus on ground realities. They need to focus on the roof realities. The multitude is on the ground. Fifty-odd dynasties that rule India stand on the roof. [/COLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][COLOR=#000000] [SIZE=2][FONT=Arial][COLOR=navy][B]These are the dynasties of Sonia Gandhi, Karunanidhi, Mulayam Singh Yadav, Sharad Pawar, Farooq Abdullah, Jaswant Singh, Murli Deora, late Rajesh Pilot, the late Madhav Rao Scindia, Om Prakash Chautala, Parkash Singh Badal, the late Charan Singh, Maneka Gandhi, the late Pramod Mahajan, Balasaheb Thackeray, Ramadoss... okay, okay! There may be more than 50 dynasties. There may be even a hundred. But that isn't saying much.[/B] [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=Arial][COLOR=navy]We all know who the dynasties are. But we're never sure who the people are. Sometimes secularists are the real people of India. At other times, saffronite Hindus are the real people of India. Or perhaps the OBCs may be the real people. Sometimes even Dalits become the real people of India. Sometimes there are combinations that make real people. Right now, Brahmins and Dalits are the people of Uttar Pradesh. Recently, Yadavs and Muslims were the people of Uttar Pradesh. Sometimes there are even disputes about who the real Scheduled Tribes are. Very recently Gujjars and Meenas were battling it out because they couldn't decide who the real Scheduled Tribe was.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=Arial] [COLOR=navy]So how must we determine who the people of India are? Why, the dynasties on the roof tell us that. The dynasties don't change. But the people keep changing. This leads one to a profound truth. In India, people don't choose the leadership. Leaders choose the people. So why not scrap elections? Citizens should stop voting for leaders. Let leaders vote for the people. Let dynasties elect saffronites or secularists, forwards or backwards as the real people of India. This will give us a genuine, representative, low-cost democracy. As many ancient, wise philosophers almost said: [B]Let there be a government of the dynasties, for the dynasties, by the dynasties. [/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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