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Bhindranwale - A Terrorist Or A Freedom Fighter?
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<blockquote data-quote="S|kH" data-source="post: 1459" data-attributes="member: 217"><p>So you believe Khushwant Singh's words?</p><p></p><p>Yet, when we begin to dissect Bhindranwale, why not refer to the source himself? Why not view the interviews of him? the numerous speeches he gave?</p><p></p><p>Because if he did say such slanderness to Hindus in general, he would have stated it publicily in the large lectures, right?</p><p></p><p>Bhindranwale never targeted Hindus as evil, or decievers. He targeted the governement. </p><p></p><p>"Hindu pakha hindu banay, Muslim pakha muslim banay, Sikh pakha Sikh banay"</p><p></p><p>Obviously if you ever heard Bhindranwales speech in which he uses the term "Hindu" and if you look at the speech in context, he clearly uses it as targetting the government, that they are Hindu-dominated people, who do not respect the other miniorities. He never slandered Hindus in general. </p><p></p><p>----</p><p>You also say, Bhindranwale left a violent legacy?</p><p>Please show me how Bhindranwale committed any violence? </p><p>He openly told his people to that he praises the killing of cruel men who butcher and take power over people. He targetted the government as his enemy, not Hindus or general people. </p><p></p><p>His men robbed banks, and shut down other government run facilities in Amritsar....is this not part of his message?</p><p></p><p>A terrorist is someone who kills, plans, or takes part in destroying innocent civilians as part of the message he tries to bring across.</p><p></p><p>Bin Laden openly admitted to planning 9-11 terrorist attacks, as his message to the American Government. </p><p></p><p>Did Bhindranwale do such a thing? or did he just lecture inside the Golden Temple and openly only claim the Government as his sole enemy? </p><p></p><p>Bhindranwale armed himself with guns, so? He was prepared in case of an Army or Police sniper attack or resistance. Did you ever see him shooting openly at hindus? or even telling his followers to do so? </p><p></p><p>There is a clear difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter.</p><p>And there is a further difference between a freedom fighter and a Sant. </p><p>A terrorist kills innocents in order to promote his message to a select few people that are in power. A Freedom fighter indentifies his sole enemy and targets only them, whether his original cause for his movement is considered justifiable or not does not matter. A Sant is one who has full justification from a large majority of the people and fights for a cause and targets only a certain enemy that is causing him trouble. </p><p></p><p>and let me bust your bubble on your highly regarded scholar, Khushwant Singh...although he is a very intelligent man, but do not forget that :</p><p>He thinks Sikhism is a sect of Hinduism and openly proclaims so,</p><p>and he is an active communist, and thinks communism is the way to go. </p><p></p><p>----</p><p>Some people say Bhindranwale's cause was not just, so they label him as a terrorist. To be a freedom fighter ones cause does not need to be just in the eyes of many, it needs to be just in ones own eyes and only the enemy must be targeted. </p><p></p><p>Also some say Bhindranwale was wrong for bringing guns into the Golden Temple, and they call this a terroristic move. So I ask them, should India be fully in control of the Sikh gurdwaras, so everytime the leader of the Nihangs enters a gurdwara, they claim he's a terrorist and attack it? Besides, the Nihangs armor themselves up to even grilled steel teeth. </p><p></p><p>Bhindranwale DID attempt to separate the Sikhs and Hindus, this is VERY TRUE. His goal was to re-establish the Sikh power and identity. He wanted everyone and the government especially to REALIZE the difference between Sikhs and Hindus. If you disagree with this, read about what the Indian Gov't thought of the Sikhs, and the struggle that led up to Bhindranwales movement. </p><p></p><p>I'm not saying Bhindranwale is "God" or "God-sent" or even a "Sant" but he as FAR from a terrorist. I've even read articles that depict him in relation to Bin Laden, its repulsive. </p><p></p><p>Rajs, do not become blind by reading a persons views on Bhindranwale, go to the SOURCE itself, and see what and what didnt happen in 1984.</p><p>Claiming Bhindranwale as a terrorist in the method that you stated, is just as bad as worshipping him and claiming he was God-sent. </p><p></p><p>Take the goods and bads of what he did, and see how you can change things and still accomplish a goal of self-determination for Sikhs in Punjab. </p><p></p><p>Khushwant Singh will continually bash Bhindranwale because he attempted to create a distinction of identity between Sikhs and Hindus....and Khushwant Singh believes that sikhs are just "keshdhari hindus" and a sect of hinduism. </p><p></p><p>Perhaps you should read up on him some more, before citing his quotes. </p><p>He's a smart man, on certain subjects...but he has a clear bias against Bhindranwale because Bhindranwale went against his beliefs of who Sikhs are.</p><p></p><p>Stay objective on these issues, its the best method to go. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="S|kH, post: 1459, member: 217"] So you believe Khushwant Singh's words? Yet, when we begin to dissect Bhindranwale, why not refer to the source himself? Why not view the interviews of him? the numerous speeches he gave? Because if he did say such slanderness to Hindus in general, he would have stated it publicily in the large lectures, right? Bhindranwale never targeted Hindus as evil, or decievers. He targeted the governement. "Hindu pakha hindu banay, Muslim pakha muslim banay, Sikh pakha Sikh banay" Obviously if you ever heard Bhindranwales speech in which he uses the term "Hindu" and if you look at the speech in context, he clearly uses it as targetting the government, that they are Hindu-dominated people, who do not respect the other miniorities. He never slandered Hindus in general. ---- You also say, Bhindranwale left a violent legacy? Please show me how Bhindranwale committed any violence? He openly told his people to that he praises the killing of cruel men who butcher and take power over people. He targetted the government as his enemy, not Hindus or general people. His men robbed banks, and shut down other government run facilities in Amritsar....is this not part of his message? A terrorist is someone who kills, plans, or takes part in destroying innocent civilians as part of the message he tries to bring across. Bin Laden openly admitted to planning 9-11 terrorist attacks, as his message to the American Government. Did Bhindranwale do such a thing? or did he just lecture inside the Golden Temple and openly only claim the Government as his sole enemy? Bhindranwale armed himself with guns, so? He was prepared in case of an Army or Police sniper attack or resistance. Did you ever see him shooting openly at hindus? or even telling his followers to do so? There is a clear difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter. And there is a further difference between a freedom fighter and a Sant. A terrorist kills innocents in order to promote his message to a select few people that are in power. A Freedom fighter indentifies his sole enemy and targets only them, whether his original cause for his movement is considered justifiable or not does not matter. A Sant is one who has full justification from a large majority of the people and fights for a cause and targets only a certain enemy that is causing him trouble. and let me bust your bubble on your highly regarded scholar, Khushwant Singh...although he is a very intelligent man, but do not forget that : He thinks Sikhism is a sect of Hinduism and openly proclaims so, and he is an active communist, and thinks communism is the way to go. ---- Some people say Bhindranwale's cause was not just, so they label him as a terrorist. To be a freedom fighter ones cause does not need to be just in the eyes of many, it needs to be just in ones own eyes and only the enemy must be targeted. Also some say Bhindranwale was wrong for bringing guns into the Golden Temple, and they call this a terroristic move. So I ask them, should India be fully in control of the Sikh gurdwaras, so everytime the leader of the Nihangs enters a gurdwara, they claim he's a terrorist and attack it? Besides, the Nihangs armor themselves up to even grilled steel teeth. Bhindranwale DID attempt to separate the Sikhs and Hindus, this is VERY TRUE. His goal was to re-establish the Sikh power and identity. He wanted everyone and the government especially to REALIZE the difference between Sikhs and Hindus. If you disagree with this, read about what the Indian Gov't thought of the Sikhs, and the struggle that led up to Bhindranwales movement. I'm not saying Bhindranwale is "God" or "God-sent" or even a "Sant" but he as FAR from a terrorist. I've even read articles that depict him in relation to Bin Laden, its repulsive. Rajs, do not become blind by reading a persons views on Bhindranwale, go to the SOURCE itself, and see what and what didnt happen in 1984. Claiming Bhindranwale as a terrorist in the method that you stated, is just as bad as worshipping him and claiming he was God-sent. Take the goods and bads of what he did, and see how you can change things and still accomplish a goal of self-determination for Sikhs in Punjab. Khushwant Singh will continually bash Bhindranwale because he attempted to create a distinction of identity between Sikhs and Hindus....and Khushwant Singh believes that sikhs are just "keshdhari hindus" and a sect of hinduism. Perhaps you should read up on him some more, before citing his quotes. He's a smart man, on certain subjects...but he has a clear bias against Bhindranwale because Bhindranwale went against his beliefs of who Sikhs are. Stay objective on these issues, its the best method to go. ;) [/QUOTE]
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