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<blockquote data-quote="Hai_Bhi_Sach" data-source="post: 51292" data-attributes="member: 4398"><p><strong>Re: Being Naam-dhari is Sikhi</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I do not agree with you on this point. Guru = Teacher, Gur = The Seed of Naam. The primary function of the Guru is to anoint one to the brotherhood and to sow the seed of Naam. Thereafter Guru tells you to go meditate and assimilate into the naam</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>When a new or refined idea is introduced into the main steam thinking or way of life, it takes a while to bring it home to the followers. The message of Guru Nanak Dev ji is even yet to be understood by so called Sikhs let alone off-chutes of Sikhism who have made a business out of telling people what the Bani says that fits their agenda.</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>If you study Guru Granth Sahib ji carefully, each subsequent guru has tried to elaborate the same message from a different point of view so that it can be brought home.</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>Had Guru Nanak Dev ji left us without someone holding the torch for a while then we would not have been any different to Islam or Christianity where the followers would have Engineered the bani to suit their agenda and watered down the message.</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>The irony of sikh followers is that we argue unnecessarily on the mechanics of the religion but refrain from following the teachings. </strong></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Technical'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Bhatts have been granted a special place by the Gurus. What the Bhatts have said in the Sveyaes has been said whilst absorbed in love for the Guru. They have sung those praises in repentance of their earlier misconduct. It is not for us to challenge that. At the same time it shows that Our Gurus are very forgiving when one repents for their mistakes. In these verses Guru ji has accepted what is being said and given them honour. “Neechon Ooch kare mera Gobind”. Who are we to criticise.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniAkharSlim'">bwxI gurU gurU hY bwxI ivic bwxI AMimRqu swry ] </span></span></p><p><span style="color: fuchsia"><span style="font-family: 'Technical'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Banee guroo guroo hai banee vich banee amrit saaray</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Technical'">. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: blue">Bani is Guru, and Guru is the Bani</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Technical'"><span style="color: blue">.</span><span style="color: navy"> Within the Bani, the Devine secrets are contained. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Technical'">(In this verse it has been established that </span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Technical'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Bani is Guru, and Guru is the Bani)</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniAkharSlim'">guru bwxI khY syvku jnu mwnY prqiK gurU insqwry ]5] </span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Technical'">Page 982</span></span></p><p><span style="color: fuchsia"><span style="font-family: 'Technical'"><span style="font-size: 12px">guro banee kahai sayvak jan maanai partakh guroo nistaaray. ||5|| </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Technical'">In this verse (</span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniAkharSlim'">guru)</span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Technical'"> means the combined effect of the Gur(The seed) and Guru(The Teacher) we will call it Guro for this explanation</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Technical'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Bani says whatever Guro says the humble servants believe it as if the Guru has spoken to them in person (in reality, face to face). Those that have such a strong belief the Guru, The Guru, personally emancipates him.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Technical'"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-size: 12px">Guru ji in this verse has shown so much confidence that his followers really believe and accept Bani as the Guru in person. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Technical'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I am sorry I do not know what your agenda is. Mine is quite clear. This is the bani by our Fourth Guru. The idea of Guru Granth Sahib ji as final Guru emanates from here.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Technical'">I do not believe in Dasam Granth as a Granth. Guru Gobind Singh Ji did not give a seal of approval of this Title. Dasam Granth as it is called did not exist at the time of Guru ji, The contents therein are a collection of Guru jis personally written poetry as well as a collection of Kacchi Bani (Bani written in the same poetic style as guru ji himself by the 52 poets but not undergone Guru ji,s scrutiny). The poetry mimics the style of Gurus ji’s bani, the collectors have assumed it to be Guru ji’s poetry and have assembled it in one book under the name of Dasam Granth. Various “Sant Matts” have made up hilarious combination of events that attempt to link themselves with the lineage of our Gurus. How many personal Sacrifes has the lineage of your Guru Made for the sake of Sikhism. There have been numerous opportunities since Guru Gobind</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Technical'">Singh ji.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Technical'"><span style="font-size: 12px">When the Panj pyaree enact the ceremony of Amrit Sanchar. The true Guru is abode them (Hazar Nazar). They are only performing a duty. Their personal life is of no consequence at that time. If they are not following the instructions of Guru ji in their personal lives then they will be answerable. Our third Guru ji says. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #800000"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniAkharThick'">jy ko gur qy vymuKu hovY ibnu siqgur mukiq n pwvY ] </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">jay ko gur <u>t</u>ay vaimu<u>kh</u> hovai bin sa<u>t</u>gur muka<u>t</u> na paavai.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000080">One who turns away from the Guru, and becomes baymukh - without the True Guru, he shall not find liberation.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #800000"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniAkharThick'">pwvY mukiq n hor QY koeI puChu ibbykIAw jwey ] </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">paavai muka<u>t</u> na hor thai ko-ee pu<u>chh</u>ahu bibaykee-aa jaa-ay.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000080">He shall not find liberation anywhere else either; go and ask the wise ones about this.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #800000"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniAkharThick'">Anyk jUnI Brim AwvY ivxu siqgur mukiq n pwey ] </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">anayk joonee <u>bh</u>aram aavai vi<u>n</u> sa<u>t</u>gur muka<u>t</u> na paa-ay.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000080">He shall wander through countless incarnations; without the True Guru, he shall not find liberation.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #800000"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniAkharThick'">iPir mukiq pwey lwig crxI siqgurU sbdu suxwey ] </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">fir muka<u>t</u> paa-ay laag char<u>n</u>ee sa<u>t</u>guroo saba<u>d</u> su<u>n</u>aa-ay.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000080">But liberation is attained, when one is attached to the feet of the True Guru, chanting the Word of the Shabad.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #800000"><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniAkharThick'">khY nwnku vIcwir dyKhu ivxu siqgur mukiq n pwey ]22] </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">kahai naanak veechaar <u>d</u>ay<u>kh</u>hu vi<u>n</u> sa<u>t</u>gur muka<u>t</u> na paa-ay. ||22||</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000080">Says Nanak, contemplate this and see, that without the True Guru, there is no liberation. ||22||</span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Technical'">So you do not need to worry about that. It is all taken care of.</span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Technical'"><span style="font-size: 12px">We as Sikhs do have a Platform and that is Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. I myself do not condone having a human guru (in the form of a teacher – a guide) because at times it is necessary to clarify misunderstandings in interpretations of Guru ki Bani. But that can also be done via a Gurmukh. One that explains the Bani does not become a Guru in a Spiritual Sense and claim a seat among the Ten Gurus and Sri Guru Granth Sahib. Just as one that reads a letter written by a husband and sent through his colleague to his beloved wife who is illiterate and asks the deliverer to read it for her. The deliverer by reading the contents cannot assume or become an automatic replacement of her husband.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Technical'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Having said that I have great admiration for Sri Jagjit Singh ji for keeping the traditions of Sikhi alive. Where the main stream Sikhs are set to demolish the memories of our beloved Gurus, Namdhari lineage has preserved the tradition or Kirtan in its traditional form. It is also my understanding that Sri Jagjit Singh ji does not consider himself as an equivalent of Guru Granth Sahib. He is seen to stop people bowing to him when he is in the presence of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. It is usually the followers that give these gentle god fearing people the title as a token of love for their service and the new generations fail to understand how it all started.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Technical'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Finally, there is no bigotry in the message of Guru Granth Sahib ji. Bigotery lies in the understanding of those that misunderstand Gurus message and go off at a tangent. All the doors in four directions to Sikhism are open and are welcoming you back home.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Technical'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fateh.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Technical'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: blue">The above is my understanding and my belief and I stand to be corrected. </span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hai_Bhi_Sach, post: 51292, member: 4398"] [b]Re: Being Naam-dhari is Sikhi[/b] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]I do not agree with you on this point. Guru = Teacher, Gur = The Seed of Naam. The primary function of the Guru is to anoint one to the brotherhood and to sow the seed of Naam. Thereafter Guru tells you to go meditate and assimilate into the naam[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][B]When a new or refined idea is introduced into the main steam thinking or way of life, it takes a while to bring it home to the followers. The message of Guru Nanak Dev ji is even yet to be understood by so called Sikhs let alone off-chutes of Sikhism who have made a business out of telling people what the Bani says that fits their agenda.[/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][B]If you study Guru Granth Sahib ji carefully, each subsequent guru has tried to elaborate the same message from a different point of view so that it can be brought home.[/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][B]Had Guru Nanak Dev ji left us without someone holding the torch for a while then we would not have been any different to Islam or Christianity where the followers would have Engineered the bani to suit their agenda and watered down the message.[/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana][B]The irony of sikh followers is that we argue unnecessarily on the mechanics of the religion but refrain from following the teachings. [/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Technical][SIZE=3]Bhatts have been granted a special place by the Gurus. What the Bhatts have said in the Sveyaes has been said whilst absorbed in love for the Guru. They have sung those praises in repentance of their earlier misconduct. It is not for us to challenge that. At the same time it shows that Our Gurus are very forgiving when one repents for their mistakes. In these verses Guru ji has accepted what is being said and given them honour. “Neechon Ooch kare mera Gobind”. Who are we to criticise.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=GurbaniAkharSlim]bwxI gurU gurU hY bwxI ivic bwxI AMimRqu swry ] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=fuchsia][FONT=Technical][SIZE=3]Banee guroo guroo hai banee vich banee amrit saaray[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][SIZE=3][FONT=Technical]. [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=blue]Bani is Guru, and Guru is the Bani[/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Technical][COLOR=blue].[/COLOR][COLOR=navy] Within the Bani, the Devine secrets are contained. [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [COLOR=blue][FONT=Technical](In this verse it has been established that [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Technical][SIZE=3]Bani is Guru, and Guru is the Bani)[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=GurbaniAkharSlim]guru bwxI khY syvku jnu mwnY prqiK gurU insqwry ]5] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Technical]Page 982[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=fuchsia][FONT=Technical][SIZE=3]guro banee kahai sayvak jan maanai partakh guroo nistaaray. ||5|| [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][COLOR=blue][FONT=Technical]In this verse ([/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=GurbaniAkharSlim]guru)[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Technical] means the combined effect of the Gur(The seed) and Guru(The Teacher) we will call it Guro for this explanation[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=blue][FONT=Technical][SIZE=3]Bani says whatever Guro says the humble servants believe it as if the Guru has spoken to them in person (in reality, face to face). Those that have such a strong belief the Guru, The Guru, personally emancipates him.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Technical][COLOR=red][SIZE=3]Guru ji in this verse has shown so much confidence that his followers really believe and accept Bani as the Guru in person. [/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=red][FONT=Technical][SIZE=3]I am sorry I do not know what your agenda is. Mine is quite clear. This is the bani by our Fourth Guru. The idea of Guru Granth Sahib ji as final Guru emanates from here.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][COLOR=red][FONT=Technical]I do not believe in Dasam Granth as a Granth. Guru Gobind Singh Ji did not give a seal of approval of this Title. Dasam Granth as it is called did not exist at the time of Guru ji, The contents therein are a collection of Guru jis personally written poetry as well as a collection of Kacchi Bani (Bani written in the same poetic style as guru ji himself by the 52 poets but not undergone Guru ji,s scrutiny). The poetry mimics the style of Gurus ji’s bani, the collectors have assumed it to be Guru ji’s poetry and have assembled it in one book under the name of Dasam Granth. Various “Sant Matts” have made up hilarious combination of events that attempt to link themselves with the lineage of our Gurus. How many personal Sacrifes has the lineage of your Guru Made for the sake of Sikhism. There have been numerous opportunities since Guru Gobind[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Technical]Singh ji.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=red][FONT=Technical][SIZE=3]When the Panj pyaree enact the ceremony of Amrit Sanchar. The true Guru is abode them (Hazar Nazar). They are only performing a duty. Their personal life is of no consequence at that time. If they are not following the instructions of Guru ji in their personal lives then they will be answerable. Our third Guru ji says. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#800000][FONT=GurbaniAkharThick]jy ko gur qy vymuKu hovY ibnu siqgur mukiq n pwvY ] [/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial]jay ko gur [U]t[/U]ay vaimu[U]kh[/U] hovai bin sa[U]t[/U]gur muka[U]t[/U] na paavai.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000080]One who turns away from the Guru, and becomes baymukh - without the True Guru, he shall not find liberation.[/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=#800000][FONT=GurbaniAkharThick]pwvY mukiq n hor QY koeI puChu ibbykIAw jwey ] [/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial]paavai muka[U]t[/U] na hor thai ko-ee pu[U]chh[/U]ahu bibaykee-aa jaa-ay.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000080]He shall not find liberation anywhere else either; go and ask the wise ones about this.[/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=#800000][FONT=GurbaniAkharThick]Anyk jUnI Brim AwvY ivxu siqgur mukiq n pwey ] [/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial]anayk joonee [U]bh[/U]aram aavai vi[U]n[/U] sa[U]t[/U]gur muka[U]t[/U] na paa-ay.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000080]He shall wander through countless incarnations; without the True Guru, he shall not find liberation.[/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=#800000][FONT=GurbaniAkharThick]iPir mukiq pwey lwig crxI siqgurU sbdu suxwey ] [/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial]fir muka[U]t[/U] paa-ay laag char[U]n[/U]ee sa[U]t[/U]guroo saba[U]d[/U] su[U]n[/U]aa-ay.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000080]But liberation is attained, when one is attached to the feet of the True Guru, chanting the Word of the Shabad.[/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=#800000][FONT=GurbaniAkharThick]khY nwnku vIcwir dyKhu ivxu siqgur mukiq n pwey ]22] [/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Arial]kahai naanak veechaar [U]d[/U]ay[U]kh[/U]hu vi[U]n[/U] sa[U]t[/U]gur muka[U]t[/U] na paa-ay. ||22||[/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000080]Says Nanak, contemplate this and see, that without the True Guru, there is no liberation. ||22||[/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=red][FONT=Technical]So you do not need to worry about that. It is all taken care of.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Technical][SIZE=3]We as Sikhs do have a Platform and that is Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. I myself do not condone having a human guru (in the form of a teacher – a guide) because at times it is necessary to clarify misunderstandings in interpretations of Guru ki Bani. But that can also be done via a Gurmukh. One that explains the Bani does not become a Guru in a Spiritual Sense and claim a seat among the Ten Gurus and Sri Guru Granth Sahib. Just as one that reads a letter written by a husband and sent through his colleague to his beloved wife who is illiterate and asks the deliverer to read it for her. The deliverer by reading the contents cannot assume or become an automatic replacement of her husband.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Technical][SIZE=3]Having said that I have great admiration for Sri Jagjit Singh ji for keeping the traditions of Sikhi alive. Where the main stream Sikhs are set to demolish the memories of our beloved Gurus, Namdhari lineage has preserved the tradition or Kirtan in its traditional form. It is also my understanding that Sri Jagjit Singh ji does not consider himself as an equivalent of Guru Granth Sahib. He is seen to stop people bowing to him when he is in the presence of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. It is usually the followers that give these gentle god fearing people the title as a token of love for their service and the new generations fail to understand how it all started.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Technical][SIZE=3]Finally, there is no bigotry in the message of Guru Granth Sahib ji. Bigotery lies in the understanding of those that misunderstand Gurus message and go off at a tangent. All the doors in four directions to Sikhism are open and are welcoming you back home.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][FONT=Technical][SIZE=3]Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fateh.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Technical][SIZE=3][COLOR=blue]The above is my understanding and my belief and I stand to be corrected. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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