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<blockquote data-quote="Harjas Kaur Khalsa" data-source="post: 85461" data-attributes="member: 2125"><p><strong>Re: Q&A with Sant Jagjit Singh ji Harkhowal</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Teal">ਦੂਜਾ ਮਾਰਿ ਮਨੁ ਸਚਿ ਸਮਾਣਾ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Teal">dhoojaa maar man sach samaanaa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Teal">Subduing my sense of duality, my mind is absorbed into the True One.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Teal"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Teal">ਨਾਨਕ ਏਕੋ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਰਤੈ ਮਨ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਪਾਵਣਿਆ ॥੮॥੧੭॥੧੮॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Teal">naanak eaeko naam varathai man anthar gur parasaadhee paavaniaa ||8||17||18||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Teal">O Nanak, the One Name is pervading deep within my mind; by Guru's Grace, I receive it. ||8||17||18||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Teal">~SGGS Ji p. 120</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green">ਛਿਅ ਘਰ ਛਿਅ ਗੁਰ ਛਿਅ ਉਪਦੇਸ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green">shhia ghar shhia gur shhia oupadhaes ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green">There are six schools of philosophy, six teachers, and six sets of teachings. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green">ਗੁਰੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਏਕੋ ਵੇਸ ਅਨੇਕ ॥੧॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green">gur gur eaeko vaes anaek ||1||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green">But the Teacher of teachers is the One, who appears in so many forms. ||1||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green">ਬਾਬਾ ਜੈ ਘਰਿ ਕਰਤੇ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਹੋਇ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green">baabaa jai ghar karathae keerath hoe ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green">O Baba: that system in which the Praises of the Creator are sung</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green">ਸੋ ਘਰੁ ਰਾਖੁ ਵਡਾਈ ਤੋਇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green">so ghar raakh vaddaaee thoe ||1|| rehaao ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green">-follow that system; in it rests true greatness. ||1||Pause|| </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green">ਵਿਸੁਏ ਚਸਿਆ ਘੜੀਆ ਪਹਰਾ ਥਿਤੀ ਵਾਰੀ ਮਾਹੁ ਹੋਆ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green">visueae chasiaa gharreeaa peharaa thhithee vaaree maahu hoaa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green">The seconds, minutes and hours, days, weeks and months,</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green">ਸੂਰਜੁ ਏਕੋ ਰੁਤਿ ਅਨੇਕ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green">sooraj eaeko ruth anaek ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green">and the various seasons originate from the one sun;</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green">~SGGS Ji p. 12</span></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is nowhere Gurbani is dividing out the nirguna from the sarguna like you claim. Gurbani isn't about 90% nirguna and a few tuuks sarguna like you say. Gurbani is very clearly saying the One nirguna is All-pervading Light shining everywhere. </p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਕਈ ਕੋਟਿ ਹੋਏ ਅਵਤਾਰ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">kee kott hoeae avathaar ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">Many millions are the divine incarnations. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਕਈ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਕੀਨੋ ਬਿਸਥਾਰ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">kee jugath keeno bisathhaar ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">In so many ways, He has unfolded Himself. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਕਈ ਬਾਰ ਪਸਰਿਓ ਪਾਸਾਰ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">kee baar pasariou paasaar ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">So many times, He has expanded His expansion.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਇਕੁ ਏਕੰਕਾਰ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">sadhaa sadhaa eik eaekankaar ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">Forever and ever, He is the One, the One Universal Creator. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਕਈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕੀਨੇ ਬਹੁ ਭਾਤਿ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">kee kott keenae bahu bhaath ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">Many millions are created in various forms. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਪ੍ਰਭ ਤੇ ਹੋਏ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਮਾਹਿ ਸਮਾਤਿ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">prabh thae hoeae prabh maahi samaath ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">From God they emanate, and into God they merge once again. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਤਾ ਕਾ ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਜਾਨੈ ਕੋਇ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">thaa kaa anth n jaanai koe ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">His limits are not known to anyone. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਆਪੇ ਆਪਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਸੋਇ ॥੭॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">aapae aap naanak prabh soe ||7||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">Of Himself, and by Himself, O Nanak, God exists. ||7||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">~SGGS Ji p. 276 </span></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's interesting that you quote:</p><p><em><span style="color: DarkRed">Jo sās girās ḏẖi*ā*ė mėrā har har so gursikẖ gurū man bẖāvai.</span></em></p><p></p><p>Do you know what it means to meditate on God with every breath and morsel of food? Do you know why Gurbani relates japa with pranayama and morsels of food? What is the meaning of Sas Giras Simran? In yogic teaching, lifeforce breath pranayama, is spiritual food. To digest is to partake of the vibration of God, Gurmantra.</p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">The Chandogya Upanishad (6.5.4; 6.6.1,2,5) tells us: “Mind consists of food. That which is the subtle part of milk moves upward when the milk is churned and becomes butter. In the same manner, the subtle part of the food that is eaten moves upward and becomes mind. Thus, mind consists of food.”</span></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Green">The Vedas say that mortals eat food with Apana, while the Gods eat food with Prana. The mortals are the physical tissues. The immortals are the senses. These take in food via Prana itself. Right food sustains Apana. </span> <a href="http://www.dharmacentral.com/articles/prana.htm" target="_blank">The Secret of Prana</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Without knowledge of the yogic background of sas giras simran, Sikhs have largely forgotten esoteric meanings such as japping Naam Gurmantara with every breath and morsel of food. It just becomes words without meaning, or some claim of metaphor without awareness there is an ancient and actual yogic practice related to those words.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Even the name of God as Har/Hari represents Vishnu and Krishna</p><p></p><p></p><p>Harimandir Sahib was historically known as Vishnu temple and included murtis of deva/devtis until reform of Singh Sabha. This is the origin and meaning of Naam of God as Har. Gur Bilas Patshahi (written in 1718) claims Hari Mandir was built as a mandir of Vishnu, and Guru Arjun Dev never went inside because of the sanctity of the presence of Lord Vishnu in the mandir. So not only does the Sanskrit Naam match but there even exists an early Sikh historical account which claims Hari Mandir was originally Vishnu Mandir, and NOT solely as nirguna mandir as modernly conceived. Just as the tuuk of Gurbani you quoted calling God as Har does not negate in any way sargun saroop, but is in fact, the very Naam of sarguna.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harjas Kaur Khalsa, post: 85461, member: 2125"] [b]Re: Q&A with Sant Jagjit Singh ji Harkhowal[/b] [INDENT][COLOR="Teal"]ਦੂਜਾ ਮਾਰਿ ਮਨੁ ਸਚਿ ਸਮਾਣਾ ॥ dhoojaa maar man sach samaanaa || Subduing my sense of duality, my mind is absorbed into the True One. ਨਾਨਕ ਏਕੋ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਰਤੈ ਮਨ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਪਾਵਣਿਆ ॥੮॥੧੭॥੧੮॥ naanak eaeko naam varathai man anthar gur parasaadhee paavaniaa ||8||17||18|| O Nanak, the One Name is pervading deep within my mind; by Guru's Grace, I receive it. ||8||17||18|| ~SGGS Ji p. 120[/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT][COLOR="Green"]ਛਿਅ ਘਰ ਛਿਅ ਗੁਰ ਛਿਅ ਉਪਦੇਸ ॥ shhia ghar shhia gur shhia oupadhaes || There are six schools of philosophy, six teachers, and six sets of teachings. ਗੁਰੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਏਕੋ ਵੇਸ ਅਨੇਕ ॥੧॥ gur gur eaeko vaes anaek ||1|| But the Teacher of teachers is the One, who appears in so many forms. ||1|| ਬਾਬਾ ਜੈ ਘਰਿ ਕਰਤੇ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਹੋਇ ॥ baabaa jai ghar karathae keerath hoe || O Baba: that system in which the Praises of the Creator are sung ਸੋ ਘਰੁ ਰਾਖੁ ਵਡਾਈ ਤੋਇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ so ghar raakh vaddaaee thoe ||1|| rehaao || -follow that system; in it rests true greatness. ||1||Pause|| ਵਿਸੁਏ ਚਸਿਆ ਘੜੀਆ ਪਹਰਾ ਥਿਤੀ ਵਾਰੀ ਮਾਹੁ ਹੋਆ ॥ visueae chasiaa gharreeaa peharaa thhithee vaaree maahu hoaa || The seconds, minutes and hours, days, weeks and months, ਸੂਰਜੁ ਏਕੋ ਰੁਤਿ ਅਨੇਕ ॥ sooraj eaeko ruth anaek || and the various seasons originate from the one sun; ~SGGS Ji p. 12[/COLOR][/INDENT] There is nowhere Gurbani is dividing out the nirguna from the sarguna like you claim. Gurbani isn't about 90% nirguna and a few tuuks sarguna like you say. Gurbani is very clearly saying the One nirguna is All-pervading Light shining everywhere. [INDENT][COLOR="Indigo"]ਕਈ ਕੋਟਿ ਹੋਏ ਅਵਤਾਰ ॥ kee kott hoeae avathaar || Many millions are the divine incarnations. ਕਈ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਕੀਨੋ ਬਿਸਥਾਰ ॥ kee jugath keeno bisathhaar || In so many ways, He has unfolded Himself. ਕਈ ਬਾਰ ਪਸਰਿਓ ਪਾਸਾਰ ॥ kee baar pasariou paasaar || So many times, He has expanded His expansion. ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਇਕੁ ਏਕੰਕਾਰ ॥ sadhaa sadhaa eik eaekankaar || Forever and ever, He is the One, the One Universal Creator. ਕਈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕੀਨੇ ਬਹੁ ਭਾਤਿ ॥ kee kott keenae bahu bhaath || Many millions are created in various forms. ਪ੍ਰਭ ਤੇ ਹੋਏ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਮਾਹਿ ਸਮਾਤਿ ॥ prabh thae hoeae prabh maahi samaath || From God they emanate, and into God they merge once again. ਤਾ ਕਾ ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਜਾਨੈ ਕੋਇ ॥ thaa kaa anth n jaanai koe || His limits are not known to anyone. ਆਪੇ ਆਪਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਸੋਇ ॥੭॥ aapae aap naanak prabh soe ||7|| Of Himself, and by Himself, O Nanak, God exists. ||7|| ~SGGS Ji p. 276 [/COLOR][/INDENT] It's interesting that you quote: [I][COLOR="DarkRed"]Jo sās girās ḏẖi*ā*ė mėrā har har so gursikẖ gurū man bẖāvai.[/COLOR][/I] Do you know what it means to meditate on God with every breath and morsel of food? Do you know why Gurbani relates japa with pranayama and morsels of food? What is the meaning of Sas Giras Simran? In yogic teaching, lifeforce breath pranayama, is spiritual food. To digest is to partake of the vibration of God, Gurmantra. [INDENT][COLOR="Purple"]The Chandogya Upanishad (6.5.4; 6.6.1,2,5) tells us: “Mind consists of food. That which is the subtle part of milk moves upward when the milk is churned and becomes butter. In the same manner, the subtle part of the food that is eaten moves upward and becomes mind. Thus, mind consists of food.”[/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT][COLOR="Green"]The Vedas say that mortals eat food with Apana, while the Gods eat food with Prana. The mortals are the physical tissues. The immortals are the senses. These take in food via Prana itself. Right food sustains Apana. [/COLOR] [url=http://www.dharmacentral.com/articles/prana.htm]The Secret of Prana[/url][/INDENT] Without knowledge of the yogic background of sas giras simran, Sikhs have largely forgotten esoteric meanings such as japping Naam Gurmantara with every breath and morsel of food. It just becomes words without meaning, or some claim of metaphor without awareness there is an ancient and actual yogic practice related to those words. Even the name of God as Har/Hari represents Vishnu and Krishna Harimandir Sahib was historically known as Vishnu temple and included murtis of deva/devtis until reform of Singh Sabha. This is the origin and meaning of Naam of God as Har. Gur Bilas Patshahi (written in 1718) claims Hari Mandir was built as a mandir of Vishnu, and Guru Arjun Dev never went inside because of the sanctity of the presence of Lord Vishnu in the mandir. So not only does the Sanskrit Naam match but there even exists an early Sikh historical account which claims Hari Mandir was originally Vishnu Mandir, and NOT solely as nirguna mandir as modernly conceived. Just as the tuuk of Gurbani you quoted calling God as Har does not negate in any way sargun saroop, but is in fact, the very Naam of sarguna. [/QUOTE]
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