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<blockquote data-quote="pk70" data-source="post: 85449" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p><strong>Re: Q&A with Sant Jagjit Singh ji Harkhowal</strong></p><p></p><p>The Guru vaak you quoted does not even speak of Sargun saroop, but of the ego-personalities of others who are NOT God-conscious, not God. It talks about turning away from the world, towards the God. It nowhere talks about turning away from sargun saroop of the God, which is also Guru. That would be like saying Guru vaak is telling to turn away from Guru and towards the nirguna only. But we perceive the nirguna only through the Guru, so that cannot be possible. You claim Gurbani stresses contemplation of the Naam. And again, the Naam of the nirguna is given as beej mantra of the sarguna, because nirguna has no name to utter.(Quot)</p><p> <strong>Definitely it does, Kabir ji talks about who? Sargun Sroop, in which he doesn’t believe, do not try to force on him, your personal imagination which is deep rooted in Sanatna Dharma’s “ a theory that circles around “Sargun Sroop” and once in a while talk about” Nirguna” In Bhagwat Geeta, Lord Krishna, being His sargun sroop, boasts about being” Nirguna’ that is the tragedy and that is the end of that, never ever coming close to Guru Nanak panth.</strong></p><p> <span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%93%E0%A8%85%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਓਅੰਕਾਰ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਦਿ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮੈ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਾਨਾ</span></span></a></span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਲਿਖਿ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਰੁ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%9F%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮੇਟੈ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਾਹਿ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਾਨਾ</span></span></a></span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%93%E0%A8%85%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਓਅੰਕਾਰ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਲਖੈ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%89" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਉ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%88" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੋਈ</span></span></a></span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%88" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੋਈ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਲਖਿ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮੇਟਣਾ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%88" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੋਈ</span></span></a></span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੬</span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span></p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">I know only the One Lord, who is the source of everything</span></span><u><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">.I believe not in him, whom the Lord writes (creates) and erases (destroys</span></span></u><u><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">)</span></span></u><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">.</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">If someone sees the one Lord,</span></span> <span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">he perishes not by beholding Him.</span></span></p><p> "I do not believe in anyone whom the Lord writes and erases." What dies? The ego dies. The flesh dies. God-consciousness never dies. So this is telling that all the forms and personalities pass away. But the Shabad-Jyot which is in the Guru, is the Guru, was in all 10 human forms of Guruji, and in the physical form of Shabad Guru Ji Maharaaj cannot ever be erased, because it is merged with the nirguna.</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Please do not mix things, idea is about HIS Power to create and destroy, creation is destroyed, neither Kabir ji talks about the “soul” a part of” Soul of God”, neither I said that. Why Guru ji asks his Sikhs to contemplate on HIM only? Also Guru ji says, those Sikhs please him ( Bhavai). Why? One message, very simple, as others are lost and called blind by Namdev ji, Guru ji doesn’t want his Sikhs to be like them. Soul dies or not, that is not the issue here, you are just trying to mix it, old habit.</strong></p><p> </p><p> This Guru vaak says clearly, if he knows HIM, he will not perish, the Divine Jyot has come into him. So clearly this vaak is not saying what you have intended against sarguna. </p><p> </p><p> <strong>Kabir ji says” I won’t believe in whom you write or erase? What is that” Sargun Sroop” Period.</strong></p><p> What interests us about sarguna is not the form at all, but the content. Because the sarguna makes the imperceivable perceivable. It is through the sarguna that we even have Guru's teachings which are the Shabad-Jyot, of a spiritual vibration above and beyond the physical world in which they are expressed.</p><p> <strong>Well, that is fine, Guru Message is to stick to HIM who creates all, 98 % of Sree Guru Granth Sahib contains Nirguna and His praise; a few lines are picked and that point is made enough to take away Sikhs from Guru Bachan. Why only those [/FONT]</strong> <strong>please Guru ji who contemplate on Nirguna. Why? Why so stress and clarity, not a chance is given for Sargun worshiping in that Guru Shabad. REREAD</strong></p><p> <span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੋ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਾਸਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗਿਰਾਸਿ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%8F" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਧਿਆਏ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮੇਰਾ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਰਿ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਰਿ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੋ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰਸਿਖੁ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%82" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰੂ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਨਿ</span></span></a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭਾਵੈ</span></span></a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Jo sās girās ḏẖi*ā*ė mėrā har har so gursikẖ gurū man bẖāvai.</span> </p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">One who meditates on my Lord, Har, Har, with every breath and every morsel of food - that GurSikh becomes pleasing to the Guru's Mind.(SGGS 305) </span></span></p><p> </p><p> <strong> WHY? BECAUSE GUR JI DOESN’T WANT TO CONFUSE HIS FOLLOWERS AS SOME PLAY THAT CONFUSING GAMES.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pk70, post: 85449, member: 5889"] [b]Re: Q&A with Sant Jagjit Singh ji Harkhowal[/b] The Guru vaak you quoted does not even speak of Sargun saroop, but of the ego-personalities of others who are NOT God-conscious, not God. It talks about turning away from the world, towards the God. It nowhere talks about turning away from sargun saroop of the God, which is also Guru. That would be like saying Guru vaak is telling to turn away from Guru and towards the nirguna only. But we perceive the nirguna only through the Guru, so that cannot be possible. You claim Gurbani stresses contemplation of the Naam. And again, the Naam of the nirguna is given as beej mantra of the sarguna, because nirguna has no name to utter.(Quot) [B]Definitely it does, Kabir ji talks about who? Sargun Sroop, in which he doesn’t believe, do not try to force on him, your personal imagination which is deep rooted in Sanatna Dharma’s “ a theory that circles around “Sargun Sroop” and once in a while talk about” Nirguna” In Bhagwat Geeta, Lord Krishna, being His sargun sroop, boasts about being” Nirguna’ that is the tragedy and that is the end of that, never ever coming close to Guru Nanak panth.[/B] [COLOR=red][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%93%E0%A8%85%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਓਅੰਕਾਰ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BF"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਆਦਿ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%88"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਮੈ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਜਾਨਾ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਲਿਖਿ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%81"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਅਰੁ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%9F%E0%A9%88"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਮੇਟੈ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਤਾਹਿ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਨ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਮਾਨਾ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%93%E0%A8%85%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਓਅੰਕਾਰ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%88"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਲਖੈ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%89"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਜਉ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%88"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਕੋਈ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%88"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਸੋਈ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਲਖਿ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%BE"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਮੇਟਣਾ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਨ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%88"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਹੋਈ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]੬[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]I know only the One Lord, who is the source of everything[/FONT][/COLOR][U][COLOR=red][FONT=Tahoma].I believe not in him, whom the Lord writes (creates) and erases (destroys[/FONT][/COLOR][/U][U][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma])[/FONT][/COLOR][/U][COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma].[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]If someone sees the one Lord,[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]he perishes not by beholding Him.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma] [/FONT][/COLOR]"I do not believe in anyone whom the Lord writes and erases." What dies? The ego dies. The flesh dies. God-consciousness never dies. So this is telling that all the forms and personalities pass away. But the Shabad-Jyot which is in the Guru, is the Guru, was in all 10 human forms of Guruji, and in the physical form of Shabad Guru Ji Maharaaj cannot ever be erased, because it is merged with the nirguna. [B]Please do not mix things, idea is about HIS Power to create and destroy, creation is destroyed, neither Kabir ji talks about the “soul” a part of” Soul of God”, neither I said that. Why Guru ji asks his Sikhs to contemplate on HIM only? Also Guru ji says, those Sikhs please him ( Bhavai). Why? One message, very simple, as others are lost and called blind by Namdev ji, Guru ji doesn’t want his Sikhs to be like them. Soul dies or not, that is not the issue here, you are just trying to mix it, old habit.[/B] This Guru vaak says clearly, if he knows HIM, he will not perish, the Divine Jyot has come into him. So clearly this vaak is not saying what you have intended against sarguna. [B]Kabir ji says” I won’t believe in whom you write or erase? What is that” Sargun Sroop” Period.[/B] What interests us about sarguna is not the form at all, but the content. Because the sarguna makes the imperceivable perceivable. It is through the sarguna that we even have Guru's teachings which are the Shabad-Jyot, of a spiritual vibration above and beyond the physical world in which they are expressed. [B]Well, that is fine, Guru Message is to stick to HIM who creates all, 98 % of Sree Guru Granth Sahib contains Nirguna and His praise; a few lines are picked and that point is made enough to take away Sikhs from Guru Bachan. Why only those [/FONT][/B] [B]please Guru ji who contemplate on Nirguna. Why? Why so stress and clarity, not a chance is given for Sargun worshiping in that Guru Shabad. REREAD[/B] [COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B"][FONT=Raavi]ਜੋ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਾਸਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਗਿਰਾਸਿ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%8F"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਧਿਆਏ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਮੇਰਾ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਹਰਿ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਹਰਿ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਸੋ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%81"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰਸਿਖੁ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%82"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰੂ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਮਨਿ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88"][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਭਾਵੈ[/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Tahoma]Jo sās girās ḏẖi*ā*ė mėrā har har so gursikẖ gurū man bẖāvai.[/FONT] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Tahoma]One who meditates on my Lord, Har, Har, with every breath and every morsel of food - that GurSikh becomes pleasing to the Guru's Mind.(SGGS 305) [/FONT][/COLOR] [B] WHY? BECAUSE GUR JI DOESN’T WANT TO CONFUSE HIS FOLLOWERS AS SOME PLAY THAT CONFUSING GAMES.[/B] [/QUOTE]
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