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Composition, Arrangement & Layout
ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Seeker9" data-source="post: 136227" data-attributes="member: 11719"><p>Yes OK!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Fine. And if the Scientific community chooses to doubt the existence of God, there is no onus on the believers to do that either</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sorry that's rubbish...that is far from Scientific method and empirical study. If you want to believe that go ahead but it is not a real scientific approach</p><p></p><p></p><p>. </p><p></p><p>I was not talking about Scientists...I was talking about Atheists, a lot of whom don't understand Science but get on a bandwagon and quote it anyway or spend 30 seconds googling without any real research or learning</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well no, I turned it around remember. Atheists say God does not exist so by your own argument, the onus is on you to prove this! Just as Science can't prove God's existence, it cannot disprove God's existence either. If you want to add your own spin on things and make assumptions that's your choice....but other's don't have to accept that position</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes you can. The point is facetious but it is nonetheless correct. Let me indulge you here and I will develop this further later. Teapots exist. Space exists. To prove with absolute certainty it is not there as I type this would require observation. All you can say for certain is that the probability is very high that the teapot does not exist. But like I said it's a silly example considering we are having a philosophical discussion about God.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Aside from the fact that there is some evidence that appears to support the existence of the Sasquatch, your point is completely meaningless. Think about what you are saying...you are equating ancient beliefs crossing time and geography with something you pluck straight out of your head! Oh look...I thought of a Flying Sphagetti Monster...either he exists or God doesn't exist. Oh look, ...I thought of an elephant with a giraffe's head and a donkey's feet...either it exists or God doesn't exist. </p><p></p><p>Very poor argument my friend...very poor indeed for someone as well read as yourself who likes to think things through logically</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Go for it!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No please do elaborate so we know you have some sort of understanding that you are comfortable with even if it goes against what we think</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's an interesting concept. Not when I subscribe to</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No they are not. Anyone who says that has failed to understand Quantum Physics</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Gibberish my friend. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>OK</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh dear..that one made me laugh out loud. Let me see...need I give you examples of Scientific forecasts from the '50's, '60's, '70s etc that were patently absurd. You accuse us of blind faith but I would say you have blind faith in your religion of Science. And as Findingmyway Ji noted in a previous post, having herself studied scientifc subjects for her profession, there is no need to have one or the other...it's only Atheists that have that agenda</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Pointless on this thread but a good debating point on another thread if you want to</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Seeker9, post: 136227, member: 11719"] Yes OK! Fine. And if the Scientific community chooses to doubt the existence of God, there is no onus on the believers to do that either Sorry that's rubbish...that is far from Scientific method and empirical study. If you want to believe that go ahead but it is not a real scientific approach . I was not talking about Scientists...I was talking about Atheists, a lot of whom don't understand Science but get on a bandwagon and quote it anyway or spend 30 seconds googling without any real research or learning Well no, I turned it around remember. Atheists say God does not exist so by your own argument, the onus is on you to prove this! Just as Science can't prove God's existence, it cannot disprove God's existence either. If you want to add your own spin on things and make assumptions that's your choice....but other's don't have to accept that position Yes you can. The point is facetious but it is nonetheless correct. Let me indulge you here and I will develop this further later. Teapots exist. Space exists. To prove with absolute certainty it is not there as I type this would require observation. All you can say for certain is that the probability is very high that the teapot does not exist. But like I said it's a silly example considering we are having a philosophical discussion about God. Aside from the fact that there is some evidence that appears to support the existence of the Sasquatch, your point is completely meaningless. Think about what you are saying...you are equating ancient beliefs crossing time and geography with something you pluck straight out of your head! Oh look...I thought of a Flying Sphagetti Monster...either he exists or God doesn't exist. Oh look, ...I thought of an elephant with a giraffe's head and a donkey's feet...either it exists or God doesn't exist. Very poor argument my friend...very poor indeed for someone as well read as yourself who likes to think things through logically Go for it! No please do elaborate so we know you have some sort of understanding that you are comfortable with even if it goes against what we think It's an interesting concept. Not when I subscribe to No they are not. Anyone who says that has failed to understand Quantum Physics Gibberish my friend. OK Oh dear..that one made me laugh out loud. Let me see...need I give you examples of Scientific forecasts from the '50's, '60's, '70s etc that were patently absurd. You accuse us of blind faith but I would say you have blind faith in your religion of Science. And as Findingmyway Ji noted in a previous post, having herself studied scientifc subjects for her profession, there is no need to have one or the other...it's only Atheists that have that agenda Pointless on this thread but a good debating point on another thread if you want to [/QUOTE]
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