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Guru Granth Sahib
Anand Banee
Anand Sahib - 24th Pauri
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<blockquote data-quote="Amarpal" data-source="post: 7720" data-attributes="member: 10"><p><strong>Re: Anand Sahib: 24th Pauri: My understanding</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Dear Balbir Singh Ji,</span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Answering your post takes long time and I get logged out from the site again and again. At least this time I will answer to the questions you have raised and ask you some for me to learn.</span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">i) <span style="color: black">Guru Ji sang Anand Sahib in ecstasy.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I have no way to find out in what state my Guru Sahib was. I can only say from his words that Guru Sahib was in an elated state.</span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Here I wish to learn from you what does the word ‘ecstasy’ means in the context of spirituality. How can one know that she or he is in that stage? I admit I have not reached that state. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">ii) I am surprised to read your arguments and this statement "As a result I did not feel the need to elaborate on this word 'hor'."</span></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Yes it is so. I am not doing things mechanically. If a word does not change my understanding I do not spend time on it. There is nothing to be surprised about. That is my way. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">iii) Firstly our Gurus never tried to explain others what 'The Sat' meant to them.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">They just lived it and sang it.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">I hold the opinion that in the ‘Mool Mantra’ this explanation is given.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">iv) May I ask what is that all what they sang about Manmukh, Maya, Duality etc.?</span></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">I have not come across the word Manmukh in any other scripture of the land except Gurbani. Other terms by themselves do not mean criticism. Explaining the process (Maya) and the falseness (Dualities) that they lead one into is not a criticism, this is the way positive thinkers, which our Guru Sahibs were do. I do not take them to be criticism. This is my opinion.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">v) Secondly they realized Truth in all.</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">I think there is an element of learning for me in the statement you have made. What does it mean? </span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">vi) Where something was deep rooted among the masses, which was not desirable, they explained it to the masses and persuaded them to move away from those practices or concepts.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Yes, through proper explanation they persuaded other to give up those practices or concept. They never asked them to leave their faith. They only asked them to get rid of any falsehood that might have crept in.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">vii) They recognised pluralities of ways </span></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Yes, this is evident from the fact that they never asked any one to change her or his religion.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">With this I close.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">With love and respect for all.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Amarpal Singh</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Amarpal, post: 7720, member: 10"] [b]Re: Anand Sahib: 24th Pauri: My understanding[/b] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]Dear Balbir Singh Ji,[/size][/font] [size=3][font=Times New Roman] [/font][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]Answering your post takes long time and I get logged out from the site again and again. At least this time I will answer to the questions you have raised and ask you some for me to learn.[/size][/font] [size=3][font=Times New Roman] [/font][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman]i) [color=black]Guru Ji sang Anand Sahib in ecstasy.[/color][/font][/size] [size=3][font=Times New Roman] [/font][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]I have no way to find out in what state my Guru Sahib was. I can only say from his words that Guru Sahib was in an elated state.[/size][/font] [size=3][font=Times New Roman] [/font][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]Here I wish to learn from you what does the word ‘ecstasy’ means in the context of spirituality. How can one know that she or he is in that stage? I admit I have not reached that state. [/size][/font] [color=black] [size=3][font=Times New Roman]ii) I am surprised to read your arguments and this statement "As a result I did not feel the need to elaborate on this word 'hor'."[/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman] [/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman]Yes it is so. I am not doing things mechanically. If a word does not change my understanding I do not spend time on it. There is nothing to be surprised about. That is my way. iii) Firstly our Gurus never tried to explain others what 'The Sat' meant to them. They just lived it and sang it.[/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman] [/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman]I hold the opinion that in the ‘Mool Mantra’ this explanation is given.[/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman] [/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman]iv) May I ask what is that all what they sang about Manmukh, Maya, Duality etc.?[/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman] [/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman]I have not come across the word Manmukh in any other scripture of the land except Gurbani. Other terms by themselves do not mean criticism. Explaining the process (Maya) and the falseness (Dualities) that they lead one into is not a criticism, this is the way positive thinkers, which our Guru Sahibs were do. I do not take them to be criticism. This is my opinion.[/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman] [/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman]v) Secondly they realized Truth in all. [/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman]I think there is an element of learning for me in the statement you have made. What does it mean? vi) Where something was deep rooted among the masses, which was not desirable, they explained it to the masses and persuaded them to move away from those practices or concepts.[/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman] [/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman]Yes, through proper explanation they persuaded other to give up those practices or concept. They never asked them to leave their faith. They only asked them to get rid of any falsehood that might have crept in.[/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman] [/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman]vii) They recognised pluralities of ways [/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman] [/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman]Yes, this is evident from the fact that they never asked any one to change her or his religion.[/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman] [/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman]With this I close.[/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman] [/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman]With love and respect for all.[/font][/size][/color] [color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman] [/font][/size][/color] [color=black][font='Times New Roman']Amarpal Singh[/font][/color] [/QUOTE]
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