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<blockquote data-quote="spnadmin" data-source="post: 114151" data-attributes="member: 35"><p>Amritdhari, Why do they matter?</p><p></p><p>It seems to be that this forum has never had a prolonged and serious discussion that is focused squarely on the amritdhari. Yet we have "talked about" the amritdhari when talking about everyone who is not -- which is different from discussing "amritdhari."</p><p></p><p>No need to respond with a definition because that is not what I am asking.</p><p><span style="color: Blue"></span></p><p><span style="color: Blue">Here is a definition, from Sikhiwiki, and it works as well as any other definition. <strong>AMRITDHARI</strong> consists of two words - "AMRIT" which literally means "nectar"; however commonly it refers to a Sikh who has been initiated or baptised as a Khalsa by taking "amrit" or "nectar water" . "Dhari" mean "practitioner" or "endowed with" (lit. having taken). So an Amritdhari is one who has received baptismal vows of the Khalsa initiated by Guru Gobind Singh (on 30 March 1699) and he or she abides by these vows and follows the "panj kakari rahit" (rules of the wearing the Five ks), the distinctive insignia introduced by the Guru on that day comprising five symbols each beginning with the Gurmukhi letter "<big>ਕ</big>" (pronounced "kakka") or its Roman equivalent "k". These are kesh (long unshorn hair and in case of men, uncut beard), kangha (a comb to keep the hair tidy), kirpan (a sword), kara ( a steel bracelet worn about the wrist), and kaccha</span> (a short undergarment). <u><span style="color: Blue">http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Amritdhari</span></u></p><p><u></u></p><p>It seems to me that the amritdhari have been drawing a lot of fire lately at SPN. In all my time as a member I do not recall anyone using his/her status as amritdhari to embarrass or degrade someone else openly. Yet, amritdhari are criticized for being inflexible and unsympathetic to those who question the importance of kesh (for some reason the other kakkars come up in debate only rarely). </p><p></p><p>I am thinking out loud now. Do not the amritdhari carry a heavy burden? What is the burden they carry? If they do carry a burden, do they carry that burden for all the others? Is it correct to say that they protect that which defines Sikhism in its essence? If so, what is the essence of Sikhism that they protect?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spnadmin, post: 114151, member: 35"] Amritdhari, Why do they matter? It seems to be that this forum has never had a prolonged and serious discussion that is focused squarely on the amritdhari. Yet we have "talked about" the amritdhari when talking about everyone who is not -- which is different from discussing "amritdhari." No need to respond with a definition because that is not what I am asking. [COLOR=Blue] Here is a definition, from Sikhiwiki, and it works as well as any other definition. [B]AMRITDHARI[/B] consists of two words - "AMRIT" which literally means "nectar"; however commonly it refers to a Sikh who has been initiated or baptised as a Khalsa by taking "amrit" or "nectar water" . "Dhari" mean "practitioner" or "endowed with" (lit. having taken). So an Amritdhari is one who has received baptismal vows of the Khalsa initiated by Guru Gobind Singh (on 30 March 1699) and he or she abides by these vows and follows the "panj kakari rahit" (rules of the wearing the Five ks), the distinctive insignia introduced by the Guru on that day comprising five symbols each beginning with the Gurmukhi letter "<big>ਕ</big>" (pronounced "kakka") or its Roman equivalent "k". These are kesh (long unshorn hair and in case of men, uncut beard), kangha (a comb to keep the hair tidy), kirpan (a sword), kara ( a steel bracelet worn about the wrist), and kaccha[/COLOR] (a short undergarment). [U][COLOR=Blue]http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Amritdhari[/COLOR] [/U] It seems to me that the amritdhari have been drawing a lot of fire lately at SPN. In all my time as a member I do not recall anyone using his/her status as amritdhari to embarrass or degrade someone else openly. Yet, amritdhari are criticized for being inflexible and unsympathetic to those who question the importance of kesh (for some reason the other kakkars come up in debate only rarely). I am thinking out loud now. Do not the amritdhari carry a heavy burden? What is the burden they carry? If they do carry a burden, do they carry that burden for all the others? Is it correct to say that they protect that which defines Sikhism in its essence? If so, what is the essence of Sikhism that they protect? [/QUOTE]
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