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<blockquote data-quote="ISDhillon" data-source="post: 21971" data-attributes="member: 1987"><p>Satsriakal Balbir Ji</p><p> </p><p>"The true Panth is to walk on the way with Guru "maarag panth chalay gur satgur sang sikhaa.""</p><p> </p><p>I agree with this and your guru took amrit so if you are to follow this way then khalsa is also the gurus way.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniAkhar'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: darkorange">"mnu Ariphu haumY qjhu iequ pMiQ julweIAw ]</span></span></span></p><p>man arpihu ha-umai tajahu it panth julaa-ee-aa.</p><p>Mind is offered. Ego is discarded, walked, this Panth."</p><p> </p><p>This is true and when the guru asked for 5 heads five sikhs lossed their ego and sacrificed their heads and created a new panth.</p><p> </p><p>Another example for Panth is this.</p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'GurbaniAkhar'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: darkorange">"guru muKhu Alwey qw soBw pwey iqsu jm kY pMiQ n pwiexw ]11]</span></span></span></p><p>"gur mukhahu alaa-ay taa sobhaa paa-ay tis jam kai panth na paa-inaa." ||11|| SGGS page 1078-11</p><p>Spoken from Guru's mouth he receives adornment. He after birth does not walks any Panth."</p><p> </p><p>yes and when you are baptised you are reborn as the guru intended and will follow no other panth</p><p> </p><p>"One more example from Japuji Sahib is <span style="font-family: 'GurbaniAkhar'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: darkorange">mMnY mgu n clY pMQu ]</span></span></span></p><p>"mannai mag na chalai panth." SGGS page 3</p><p>By knowing. He does not walk on the way of Panth."</p><p> </p><p>exactly so you should stop analysing and accept the panth that the guru gave.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>"Since when political parties of Sikhs have started calling them Hari ka Panth and are expecting us to touch their feet?"</p><p> </p><p>touching feet is a personal sign of devotion it does not amount to anything unless you let it.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>"The spiritual growth is not achieved by following the rules of such bodies."</p><p> </p><p>true you do not need any religion to repeat the name but in sikhism we do have such a body and that cannot be altered to suit others.</p><p> </p><p>"What is the Panth you are talking about? "</p><p> </p><p>khalsa</p><p> </p><p>"Our Gurus through Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji explain us that accompanying the true Guru is the way. And walking along with the Guru, all Panths are left behind."</p><p> </p><p>this is what I am saying the 10th guru also took amrit then if you do not then you are not following his walk and you are not leaving all other panths behind. BTW a sikh is still one who is not baptised but a baptised sikh is the ideal it is the fullfillment otherwise you cannot accept the adi granth as guru because guru gobind Singh Ji on that very day also gace gurgaddi to sri guru granth sahib so how can you follow some of his edicts and reject the rest surely he was not going against sikhi by taking amrit and following maryada please I really would like you to give a response to all of my questions.</p><p> </p><p>"It is your duty now. Let all know where our Gurus have asked us to follow the Panth and its Maryada you are mentioning."</p><p> </p><p>HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>amrit ceremony and maryada system has been evident in sikhism since its inception it is blantantly denying reality to suggest otherwise. The maryada can never be fixed that is why authority for "guru changes" are invested in the khalsa panth that is why we call it guru panth if you do not understand this then I would seriously advise you do some reading and learn instead of refuting, however if you are happy and fully content on the path that you are on then that too is ok but the definition of guru panth will not be changed by any one.</p><p> </p><p>"Please make me wise."</p><p> </p><p>Only guru can do that</p><p> </p><p>Sorry if I have offended,</p><p> </p><p>Indy</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ISDhillon, post: 21971, member: 1987"] Satsriakal Balbir Ji "The true Panth is to walk on the way with Guru "maarag panth chalay gur satgur sang sikhaa."" I agree with this and your guru took amrit so if you are to follow this way then khalsa is also the gurus way. [FONT=GurbaniAkhar][SIZE=3][COLOR=darkorange]"mnu Ariphu haumY qjhu iequ pMiQ julweIAw ][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] man arpihu ha-umai tajahu it panth julaa-ee-aa. Mind is offered. Ego is discarded, walked, this Panth." This is true and when the guru asked for 5 heads five sikhs lossed their ego and sacrificed their heads and created a new panth. Another example for Panth is this. [FONT=GurbaniAkhar][SIZE=3][COLOR=darkorange]"guru muKhu Alwey qw soBw pwey iqsu jm kY pMiQ n pwiexw ]11][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] "gur mukhahu alaa-ay taa sobhaa paa-ay tis jam kai panth na paa-inaa." ||11|| SGGS page 1078-11 Spoken from Guru's mouth he receives adornment. He after birth does not walks any Panth." yes and when you are baptised you are reborn as the guru intended and will follow no other panth "One more example from Japuji Sahib is [FONT=GurbaniAkhar][SIZE=3][COLOR=darkorange]mMnY mgu n clY pMQu ][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] "mannai mag na chalai panth." SGGS page 3 By knowing. He does not walk on the way of Panth." exactly so you should stop analysing and accept the panth that the guru gave. "Since when political parties of Sikhs have started calling them Hari ka Panth and are expecting us to touch their feet?" touching feet is a personal sign of devotion it does not amount to anything unless you let it. "The spiritual growth is not achieved by following the rules of such bodies." true you do not need any religion to repeat the name but in sikhism we do have such a body and that cannot be altered to suit others. "What is the Panth you are talking about? " khalsa "Our Gurus through Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji explain us that accompanying the true Guru is the way. And walking along with the Guru, all Panths are left behind." this is what I am saying the 10th guru also took amrit then if you do not then you are not following his walk and you are not leaving all other panths behind. BTW a sikh is still one who is not baptised but a baptised sikh is the ideal it is the fullfillment otherwise you cannot accept the adi granth as guru because guru gobind Singh Ji on that very day also gace gurgaddi to sri guru granth sahib so how can you follow some of his edicts and reject the rest surely he was not going against sikhi by taking amrit and following maryada please I really would like you to give a response to all of my questions. "It is your duty now. Let all know where our Gurus have asked us to follow the Panth and its Maryada you are mentioning." HISTORY!!!!!!!!!! amrit ceremony and maryada system has been evident in sikhism since its inception it is blantantly denying reality to suggest otherwise. The maryada can never be fixed that is why authority for "guru changes" are invested in the khalsa panth that is why we call it guru panth if you do not understand this then I would seriously advise you do some reading and learn instead of refuting, however if you are happy and fully content on the path that you are on then that too is ok but the definition of guru panth will not be changed by any one. "Please make me wise." Only guru can do that Sorry if I have offended, Indy [/QUOTE]
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