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<blockquote data-quote="spnadmin" data-source="post: 122279" data-attributes="member: 35"><p>Santokh ji</p><p></p><p>I am curious myself. It looks as if this passage came from the search engine at srigranth.org.</p><p></p><p>So my next question would be: Is this the translation of Manmohan Singh or of Sant Singh MD.? I am going to take a look myself because I realize you found this in another thread. So how would you know the answer?</p><p></p><p>For now -- the entire shabad is needed to know what the verse means. Since Guru Amar Das left Vedism to follow Sikhi, my first hypothesis is that he brought his own devotion and awareness of the Vedic creator Vishnu under the control of his new bhagati and awareness of the Satguru. </p><p></p><p></p><p>My reason. After he says, <span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080">Guru Amar Daas brought the Creator Lord under His control </span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">the next thing is</span></span> Waho Waho Meditate on Him. </span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"></span></span></span></span></span> But I will check for you.</p><p></p><p><strong>Added after checking the shabad.</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">Now elaboration - This is very interesting. The shabad comes from the Savaya in praise of Guru Ram Das by the Bhat poet Bal. The bhats were Hindus who lived in the general region of the Indus river and were monotheist Hindus. Among them "Bal" wrote many hymns in praise of the 4th Nanak Ram Das. When Guru Arjan Dev (Nanak 4) included the bhats poetry/hymns in the Aad Granth, he was acknowledging their deep devotion, bhagati, to the one Creator Lord. That is the background for that one line. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">Now to the specifics, Here is part of the entire shabd which is very long from the Sawayay on ang 1405. Translation is by Sant Singh.</span></p><p></p><p><table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="98%"><tbody><tr><td class="rmenuheader"></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਨਾਨਕਿ ਭਗਤਿ ਕਰੀ ਇਕ ਮਨਿ ਤਨੁ ਮਨੁ ਧਨੁ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਦੀਅਉ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">sathigur naanak bhagath karee eik man than man dhhan gobindh dheeao ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">Nanak, the True Guru, worships God single-mindedly; He surrenders His body, mind and wealth to the Lord of the Universe.</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"><span style="color: red"></span></p><p><span style="color: red"></span></p><p><span style="color: red"></span></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਅੰਗਦਿ ਅਨੰਤ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਨਿਜ ਧਾਰੀ ਅਗਮ ਗ੍ਯ੍ਯਾਨਿ ਰਸਿ ਰਸ੍ਯ੍ਯਉ ਹੀਅਉ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">angadh ananth moorath nij dhhaaree agam gyaan ras rasyo heeao ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">The Infinite Lord enshrined His Own Image in Guru Angad. In His heart, He delights in the spiritual wisdom of the Unfathomable Lord.</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"><span style="color: red"></span></p><p><span style="color: red"></span></p><p><span style="color: red"></span></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਗੁਰਿ ਅਮਰਦਾਸਿ ਕਰਤਾਰੁ ਕੀਅਉ ਵਸਿ ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਕਰਿ ਧ੍ਯ੍ਯਾਇਯਉ ॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">gur amaradhaas karathaar keeao vas vaahu vaahu kar dhhyaaeiyo ||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok"><span style="color: red">Guru Amar Daas brought the Creator Lord under His control</span>. Waaho! Waaho! Meditate on Him!</p><p></td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader"><span style="color: red"></span></p><p><span style="color: red"></span></p><p><span style="color: red"></span></p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰ ਰਾਮਦਾਸ ਜਯੋ ਜਯ ਜਗ ਮਹਿ ਤੈ ਹਰਿ ਪਰਮ ਪਦੁ ਪਾਇਯਉ ॥੨॥ </p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">sree gur raamadhaas jayo jay jag mehi thai har param padh paaeiyo ||2||</p><p></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">O Great and Supreme Guru Raam Daas, Your Victory resounds across the universe. You have attained the supreme status of the Lord. ||2||</td></tr></tbody></table></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">The poet Bal is building up to praise of Guru Raam Daas ji. He in the last line is saying that our 4th Guru has attained the jyote of the Satguru and is infused with his light ("You have attained the supreme status of the Lord"). Before that he builds from Nanak 1, who earlier attained the status of Satguru, because he worships the True God "single-mindedly." So here we see the acceptance of monotheism and complete bhagati. Then the poet praised Nanak 2, Guru Angad ji who has the Creator enshrined within. </span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen">On to the line you asked about. Guru Amar Das ji, who (see my comments above) has left worship of Vishnu and has accepted bhagati of Waheguru the Creator Lord. Then finally he praises Guru Ram Das ji -- whom Bal considers the attainment of "supreme status of the Lord" or the jyote of the Satguru. </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spnadmin, post: 122279, member: 35"] Santokh ji I am curious myself. It looks as if this passage came from the search engine at srigranth.org. So my next question would be: Is this the translation of Manmohan Singh or of Sant Singh MD.? I am going to take a look myself because I realize you found this in another thread. So how would you know the answer? For now -- the entire shabad is needed to know what the verse means. Since Guru Amar Das left Vedism to follow Sikhi, my first hypothesis is that he brought his own devotion and awareness of the Vedic creator Vishnu under the control of his new bhagati and awareness of the Satguru. My reason. After he says, [COLOR=#000080][FONT=Tahoma][FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=1][COLOR=#000080]Guru Amar Daas brought the Creator Lord under His control [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]the next thing is[/SIZE][/FONT] Waho Waho Meditate on Him. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR] But I will check for you. [B]Added after checking the shabad.[/B] [COLOR=DarkGreen]Now elaboration - This is very interesting. The shabad comes from the Savaya in praise of Guru Ram Das by the Bhat poet Bal. The bhats were Hindus who lived in the general region of the Indus river and were monotheist Hindus. Among them "Bal" wrote many hymns in praise of the 4th Nanak Ram Das. When Guru Arjan Dev (Nanak 4) included the bhats poetry/hymns in the Aad Granth, he was acknowledging their deep devotion, bhagati, to the one Creator Lord. That is the background for that one line. [/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen]Now to the specifics, Here is part of the entire shabd which is very long from the Sawayay on ang 1405. Translation is by Sant Singh.[/COLOR] <table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="98%"><tbody><tr><td class="rmenuheader"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਨਾਨਕਿ ਭਗਤਿ ਕਰੀ ਇਕ ਮਨਿ ਤਨੁ ਮਨੁ ਧਨੁ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਦੀਅਉ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">sathigur naanak bhagath karee eik man than man dhhan gobindh dheeao || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">Nanak, the True Guru, worships God single-mindedly; He surrenders His body, mind and wealth to the Lord of the Universe. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader">[COLOR=red] [/COLOR] </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਅੰਗਦਿ ਅਨੰਤ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਨਿਜ ਧਾਰੀ ਅਗਮ ਗ੍ਯ੍ਯਾਨਿ ਰਸਿ ਰਸ੍ਯ੍ਯਉ ਹੀਅਉ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">angadh ananth moorath nij dhhaaree agam gyaan ras rasyo heeao || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">The Infinite Lord enshrined His Own Image in Guru Angad. In His heart, He delights in the spiritual wisdom of the Unfathomable Lord. </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader">[COLOR=red] [/COLOR] </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="ggs">ਗੁਰਿ ਅਮਰਦਾਸਿ ਕਰਤਾਰੁ ਕੀਅਉ ਵਸਿ ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਕਰਿ ਧ੍ਯ੍ਯਾਇਯਉ ॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="subhead">gur amaradhaas karathaar keeao vas vaahu vaahu kar dhhyaaeiyo || </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffecec"><td class="shlok">[COLOR=red]Guru Amar Daas brought the Creator Lord under His control[/COLOR]. Waaho! Waaho! Meditate on Him! </td></tr><tr><td class="rmenuheader">[COLOR=red] [/COLOR] </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="ggs">ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰ ਰਾਮਦਾਸ ਜਯੋ ਜਯ ਜਗ ਮਹਿ ਤੈ ਹਰਿ ਪਰਮ ਪਦੁ ਪਾਇਯਉ ॥੨॥ </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="subhead">sree gur raamadhaas jayo jay jag mehi thai har param padh paaeiyo ||2|| </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffec"><td class="shlok">O Great and Supreme Guru Raam Daas, Your Victory resounds across the universe. You have attained the supreme status of the Lord. ||2||</td></tr></tbody></table> [COLOR=DarkGreen]The poet Bal is building up to praise of Guru Raam Daas ji. He in the last line is saying that our 4th Guru has attained the jyote of the Satguru and is infused with his light ("You have attained the supreme status of the Lord"). Before that he builds from Nanak 1, who earlier attained the status of Satguru, because he worships the True God "single-mindedly." So here we see the acceptance of monotheism and complete bhagati. Then the poet praised Nanak 2, Guru Angad ji who has the Creator enshrined within. On to the line you asked about. Guru Amar Das ji, who (see my comments above) has left worship of Vishnu and has accepted bhagati of Waheguru the Creator Lord. Then finally he praises Guru Ram Das ji -- whom Bal considers the attainment of "supreme status of the Lord" or the jyote of the Satguru. [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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