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<blockquote data-quote="BabbarSher" data-source="post: 6750" data-attributes="member: 185"><p>The point is ... either: </p><p></p><p>1. we believe in the abrogation of verses </p><p></p><p>2. or like muslim points out , since there is no abrogation, we believe in contradiction. </p><p></p><p>3. But muslim says their is neither abrogation or contradiction ?? </p><p></p><p>This is flawed as pointed out in my post and the references to various Suras.It would be best for muslim to explain the the verses which contradict each other as given in my past. He has totally skipped on this part. </p><p></p><p></p><p>If Quran is very diff. to understand and even schaolars are flawed, we will never be able to arrive at its true meanings. If we cannot arrive at its true meaning, what is its relevance to the common people ? </p><p></p><p>Muslim, you should read your own post carefully: </p><p></p><p>I would like to draw the members attention to the following extracts from muslims own post:</p><p></p><p>The theory of abrogation does not imply that there is a contradiction in the Qur’an, since it is possible to follow all the verses of the Qur’an at the same time.</p><p></p><p>"The theory of abrogation does not imply that there is a contradiction in the Qur’an, since it is possible to follow all the verses of the Qur’an at the same time.</p><p></p><p><strong><<I wonder how one follows two self opposing things at the same time. Arent such people supposed to be called opportunists >></strong></p><p></p><p>If there is a contradiction in the Qur’an, then it cannot be the word of Allah (swt).</p><p></p><p>"Do they not consider the Qur’an (with care)? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy (contradictions).""</p><p></p><p>"The Qur’an was revealed over a period of 22½ years. Many reforms that were brought about in the society were gradual. This was to facilitate the adoption of new laws by the people. An abrupt change in society always leads to rebellion and anarchy.</p><p>"</p><p></p><p>Exactly our point..reveal slowly... and reveal when the time is favourbale... change positions from friendliness to enmity ..over a period of time as you gain strength.. </p><p></p><p>""None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: knowest thou not that Allah hath power over all things?""</p><p></p><p><strong>Which ever way we may call this, the point is that some Surrah's over ride others or as u put it substitute others. So as of now, killing infidels is what muslims should stand for.. and this is what Quran advocates. Surely killing is a superior verse to the non compulsion one</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>also if later surrahs over ride the earlier ones .. because the latter ones are better and the earlier ones inferior, whats the sanctity of the complete volume of Quran as such ?? </strong></p><p></p><p>I dont find Muslims arguments convincing. He has focussed on replacing the word abrogation, while missing out on the content of the post.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BabbarSher, post: 6750, member: 185"] The point is ... either: 1. we believe in the abrogation of verses 2. or like muslim points out , since there is no abrogation, we believe in contradiction. 3. But muslim says their is neither abrogation or contradiction ?? This is flawed as pointed out in my post and the references to various Suras.It would be best for muslim to explain the the verses which contradict each other as given in my past. He has totally skipped on this part. If Quran is very diff. to understand and even schaolars are flawed, we will never be able to arrive at its true meanings. If we cannot arrive at its true meaning, what is its relevance to the common people ? Muslim, you should read your own post carefully: I would like to draw the members attention to the following extracts from muslims own post: The theory of abrogation does not imply that there is a contradiction in the Qur’an, since it is possible to follow all the verses of the Qur’an at the same time. "The theory of abrogation does not imply that there is a contradiction in the Qur’an, since it is possible to follow all the verses of the Qur’an at the same time. [B]<<I wonder how one follows two self opposing things at the same time. Arent such people supposed to be called opportunists >>[/B] If there is a contradiction in the Qur’an, then it cannot be the word of Allah (swt). "Do they not consider the Qur’an (with care)? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy (contradictions)."" "The Qur’an was revealed over a period of 22½ years. Many reforms that were brought about in the society were gradual. This was to facilitate the adoption of new laws by the people. An abrupt change in society always leads to rebellion and anarchy. " Exactly our point..reveal slowly... and reveal when the time is favourbale... change positions from friendliness to enmity ..over a period of time as you gain strength.. ""None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: knowest thou not that Allah hath power over all things?"" [B]Which ever way we may call this, the point is that some Surrah's over ride others or as u put it substitute others. So as of now, killing infidels is what muslims should stand for.. and this is what Quran advocates. Surely killing is a superior verse to the non compulsion one also if later surrahs over ride the earlier ones .. because the latter ones are better and the earlier ones inferior, whats the sanctity of the complete volume of Quran as such ?? [/B] I dont find Muslims arguments convincing. He has focussed on replacing the word abrogation, while missing out on the content of the post. [/QUOTE]
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