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<blockquote data-quote="Archived_Member16" data-source="post: 132750" data-attributes="member: 884"><p><strong><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: navy">What is the Sikh attitude to homosexuality?</span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: navy">Sexuality in Sikhi relates to the marriage of a man and woman and the sacredness of their singular physical relationship. It is a means to creating a future of children that can live in elevation and mastery. When speaking of homosexuality and even bisexuality, the implication is that the relationship is based on sex. The Sikh way of life is a system of living for achieving harmony of the mind, body and spirit and living in God consciousness. If you are focusing heavily on the physical aspects of your relationships, then you are already out of balance.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: navy">Those who have an issue with sexuality preference should be encouraged to direct their mind away from flirting with their own sexuality. Let it go. When ever these thoughts come up, they should direct their mind to meditate on "WaheGuru". People should be encouraged to develop their capacity as a "God man" rather than a "gay man".</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: navy">There is no such thing as same sex marriages in the Sikh Gurdwara.</span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: navy">RESPECT AND DIGNITY FOR ALL</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: navy">Although Sikhism does not find homosexual behaviour acceptable, Sikhism does not "hate" or believe that homosexuals are damned to hell as propagated by some religions. As Sikhs we are taught to have principles (asools). A Sikh does not accept any lifestyle other than the Guru's Way but also prays everyday for "Sarbat da bhalla" (the prosperity of all humanity).</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: navy">Gurbani tells us that God is without hatred and animosity. We are all the children of God. The Gurdwara is open for all no matter who they are or what they've done. God loves us all regardless of our thoughts or actions.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="color: navy">ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦਾਤਾ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦਇਆਲੁ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਿਸ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨੋ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦਇਆ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਦਾ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੋਇ </span><span style="font-family: 'Aparajita'">॥</span></span></p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅੰਦਰਹੁ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਭੁ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦੇਖੈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਇਕੁ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੋਇ </span><span style="font-family: 'Aparajita'">॥</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: navy"><em>"The True Guru is the Merciful Giver; He is always compassionate.</em></span></span></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: navy">The True Guru has no hatred within Him; He beholds the One God everywhere."</span></span></em></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: navy">(Ang 302)</span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: navy">BEING BORN HOMOSEXUAL AND NATURALLY INCLINED?</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: navy">Whether homosexual inclinations, tendancies and behaviour are natural or not does not hold any weight when discussing Gurmat (the Guru's teachings). It is possible that urges, inclinations and desires may be natural to some, but in Gurmat a Sikh is not supposed to act upon or follow on all urges of sexual desire/lust (or any other vice). </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="color: navy">ਮਨ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਾ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੁਭਾਉ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਭੁ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੋਈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰੈ</span><span style="font-family: 'Aparajita'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰਤਾ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੋਇ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੁ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਨਭੈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰਹੈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Aparajita'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੨</span><span style="font-family: 'Aparajita'">॥</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: navy"><em>"(In the world) everyone acts according to the inclinations of the mind. (But the one who remembers and meditates on the Lord's name doesn't follow the inclinations of the mind, instead with the blessings of Naam becomes) the image of the Creator Lord and remains in a state free of fear. ||2||"</em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: navy">(Ang 1167)</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: navy">Taking the help of Guru's Shabad, we are supposed to fight the sexual urges.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="color: navy">ਗੁਰ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਾ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਬਦੁ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਾਟੈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੋਟਿ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰਮ </span><span style="font-family: 'Aparajita'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੩</span><span style="font-family: 'Aparajita'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span><span style="font-family: 'Aparajita'">॥</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: navy"><em>"The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||"</em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: navy">(Ang 1195)</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: navy">Just because some sexual urge is 'natural', it does not mean that it is good to act upon it or follow it. Some people have incest urges and they too are natural to them. Should they follow those urges or subdue such urges through extensive reflection of Gurbani and Naam Abhiyaas (repetition of the Divine-Name). Some are paedophiles and have such horrific urges. Does it mean that the paedophiles are supposed to follow their urges just because they are 'natural' to them? Gurbani teaches us that urges, inclinations or desires can be subdued through reading, listening, contemplating and understanding the Guru's Shabad, keeping company with the Saadh Sangat (company of the Holy), sewa (selfless service) and Naam Simran (devotional remembrance and meditation of the Lord).</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="color: navy">ਕਾਮ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕ੍ਰੋਧ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਲੋਭ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਦ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਤਸਰ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਾਧੂ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੰਗਿ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਖਾਪ </span><span style="font-family: 'Aparajita'">॥</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: navy"><em>"Sexual desire, anger, greed, pride and envy are destroyed in the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy."</em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: navy">(Ang 1223)</span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: navy">SAME-SEX RELATIONSHIPS?</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: navy">Having premarital relations with the opposite sex is same as having premarital relations with the same sex - they are both unacceptable in the Sikh faith. They both are the result of Kaam (lust) which a GurSikh must be able to control. Guru Sahib prohibits the Sikh from even gazing at another with the intention of romance, lust, or sexual affection: </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="color: navy">ਪਰ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤ੍ਰਿਅ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰੂਪੁ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪੇਖੈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨੇਤ੍ਰ </span><span style="font-family: 'Aparajita'">॥</span></span></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: navy">"With your eyes, do not even gaze (in a lustful manner) upon the beauty of another."</span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: navy">(Sukhmani Sahib, Ang 274)</span></span></em></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="color: navy">ਦੇਖਿ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਰਾਈਆਂ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਚੰਗੀਆਂ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਾਵਾਂ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭੈਣਾਂ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਧੀਆਂ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਾਣੈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Aparajita'">॥</span></span></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: navy">"Men should look at the opposite gender as mothers, sisters and daughters, (women should look at the opposite gender as fathers, brothers and sons)."</span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: navy">(Bhāī Gurdās: Vār 29/ Paurī 11)</span></span></em></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: navy">SAME-SEX MARRIAGE</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: navy">According to the Sikh Rehit Maryada, the Anand Karaj (Sikh marriage) can only be between a Sikh man and woman only. Sexual relationship can only be between the couple married under the Anand Karaj maryada. Denouncing the practice of same-sex marriages, Jathedar of Akal Takht, issued a directive with the seal of Sri Akaal Takht Sahib that prohibited any Gurdwara in the world to hold such ceremonies. Jathedar Giani Joginder Singh Vedanti described same sex marriages as an ‘anti-Gurmat’ trend that had no place in Sikhism. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="color: navy">ਸੋ </span></span><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਿਖੁ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਖਾ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬੰਧਪੁ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੈ</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭਾਈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਿ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੇ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭਾਣੇ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਿਚਿ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਵੈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Aparajita'">॥</span></span></p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪਣੈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭਾਣੈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੋ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਚਲੈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭਾਈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਿਛੁੜਿ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਚੋਟਾ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਖਾਵੈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Aparajita'">॥</span></span></p><p><span style="color: navy"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬਿਨੁ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਤਿਗੁਰ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੁਖੁ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਦੇ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਾਵੈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭਾਈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਫਿਰਿ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਫਿਰਿ </span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਛੋਤਾਵੈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Aparajita'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span><span style="font-family: 'Aparajita'">॥</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: navy"><em>"He alone is a Sikh, a friend, a relative and a sibling, who walks in the Way of the Guru's Will. One who walks according to his own will, O Siblings of Destiny, suffers separation from the Lord, and shall be punished. Without the True Guru, peace is never obtained, O Siblings of Destiny; again and again, he regrets and repents. ||1||"</em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: navy">(Ang 601)</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: navy">Guru Sahib gave Sikhs Hukam (Order). Hukam and Rehit (discipline) put boundaries on our behaviour. We all need discipline in life. Some may say why we do you stop people from smoking, you do not believe they are equal to you? But reality is everyone is equal, but as a Gursikhs, we choose a 'Niraala Panth' (a Distinct Path). The 'Niraala panth' is defined by Rehit and Hukam.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: navy">Marriage is two souls merging into one. However even this union which is not based on Kaam (lust), but love, respect and within Gurmat, even that is also temporary. The true Union is between a person and Akaal - this is permanent. When one achieves that union, everything else is put into perspective and is incomparable. Even if a person is naturally homosexual, as one cannot become one, or a person is heterosexual and full of lust (Kaam) or not, and lives as a true disciple of Guru, all of them should search for this 'true union', because without it there is no way to quench their thirst. To obtain this union, one has to forsake all, and live in the discipline of Gurmat Rehit (discipline in accordance to the Guru's Way), and have a longing for the Darshan, Blessed Vision, of Waheguru. </span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: navy">RESPECT FOR ALL HUMAN BEINGS</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: navy">A Sikh of the Guru treats all humanity with dignity and respect. We may not agree with homosexual's lifestyle, and occasional mannerisms, but we could also on a personal level not agree with the lifestyles of 95% of humanity who love to drink, and others smoke, etc. So we should not be hypocrites and judge some and not others. One should strive to appreciate every human as they are on a humanitarian basis and build upon their Jeevan (spiritually disciplined life). A Sikh should share common positive virtues. If someone sees God inside you then one should direct the other person towards Gurbani. The fact is the Amritdhari lifestyle does not allow of homosexuality, and this is not debatable.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: navy">source: </span><a href="http://www.sikhism101.com/node/137" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: navy">http://www.sikhism101.com/node/137</span></u></a></p><p> </p><p>_______________________________________________________</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><strong><u>RE: YOUR QUESTION - Can a gay man take amrit ?</u></strong></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red">We can express our personal opinions here , but I would implore you to approach "FIVE BELOVED ONES" directly or through a intermediary and pose the question to them!</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Archived_Member16, post: 132750, member: 884"] [B][SIZE=5][COLOR=navy]What is the Sikh attitude to homosexuality?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [COLOR=navy]Sexuality in Sikhi relates to the marriage of a man and woman and the sacredness of their singular physical relationship. It is a means to creating a future of children that can live in elevation and mastery. When speaking of homosexuality and even bisexuality, the implication is that the relationship is based on sex. The Sikh way of life is a system of living for achieving harmony of the mind, body and spirit and living in God consciousness. If you are focusing heavily on the physical aspects of your relationships, then you are already out of balance.[/COLOR] [COLOR=navy]Those who have an issue with sexuality preference should be encouraged to direct their mind away from flirting with their own sexuality. Let it go. When ever these thoughts come up, they should direct their mind to meditate on "WaheGuru". People should be encouraged to develop their capacity as a "God man" rather than a "gay man".[/COLOR] [COLOR=navy]There is no such thing as same sex marriages in the Sikh Gurdwara.[/COLOR] [B][COLOR=navy]RESPECT AND DIGNITY FOR ALL[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=navy]Although Sikhism does not find homosexual behaviour acceptable, Sikhism does not "hate" or believe that homosexuals are damned to hell as propagated by some religions. As Sikhs we are taught to have principles (asools). A Sikh does not accept any lifestyle other than the Guru's Way but also prays everyday for "Sarbat da bhalla" (the prosperity of all humanity).[/COLOR] [COLOR=navy]Gurbani tells us that God is without hatred and animosity. We are all the children of God. The Gurdwara is open for all no matter who they are or what they've done. God loves us all regardless of our thoughts or actions.[/COLOR] [FONT=Raavi][COLOR=navy]ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ [/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=navy][FONT=Raavi]ਦਾਤਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=Raavi]ਦਇਆਲੁ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਹੈ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਜਿਸ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਨੋ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਦਇਆ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਸਦਾ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਹੋਇ [/FONT][FONT=Aparajita]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Raavi]ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਅੰਦਰਹੁ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਹੈ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਸਭੁ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਦੇਖੈ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਇਕੁ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਸੋਇ [/FONT][FONT=Aparajita]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=navy][I]"The True Guru is the Merciful Giver; He is always compassionate.[/I][/COLOR][/FONT] [I][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=navy]The True Guru has no hatred within Him; He beholds the One God everywhere."[/COLOR][/FONT][/I] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=navy](Ang 302)[/COLOR][/FONT] [B][COLOR=navy]BEING BORN HOMOSEXUAL AND NATURALLY INCLINED?[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=navy]Whether homosexual inclinations, tendancies and behaviour are natural or not does not hold any weight when discussing Gurmat (the Guru's teachings). It is possible that urges, inclinations and desires may be natural to some, but in Gurmat a Sikh is not supposed to act upon or follow on all urges of sexual desire/lust (or any other vice). [/COLOR] [FONT=Raavi][COLOR=navy]ਮਨ [/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=navy][FONT=Raavi]ਕਾ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਸੁਭਾਉ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਸਭੁ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=navy][FONT=Raavi]ਕੋਈ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਕਰੈ[/FONT][FONT=Aparajita]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਕਰਤਾ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਹੋਇ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਸੁ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਅਨਭੈ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਰਹੈ [/FONT][FONT=Aparajita]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੨[/FONT][FONT=Aparajita]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=navy][I]"(In the world) everyone acts according to the inclinations of the mind. (But the one who remembers and meditates on the Lord's name doesn't follow the inclinations of the mind, instead with the blessings of Naam becomes) the image of the Creator Lord and remains in a state free of fear. ||2||"[/I][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=navy](Ang 1167)[/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=navy]Taking the help of Guru's Shabad, we are supposed to fight the sexual urges.[/COLOR] [FONT=Raavi][COLOR=navy]ਗੁਰ [/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=navy][FONT=Raavi]ਕਾ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਸਬਦੁ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਕਾਟੈ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਕੋਟਿ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਕਰਮ [/FONT][FONT=Aparajita]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੩[/FONT][FONT=Aparajita]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੧[/FONT][FONT=Aparajita]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=navy][I]"The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||"[/I][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=navy](Ang 1195)[/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=navy]Just because some sexual urge is 'natural', it does not mean that it is good to act upon it or follow it. Some people have incest urges and they too are natural to them. Should they follow those urges or subdue such urges through extensive reflection of Gurbani and Naam Abhiyaas (repetition of the Divine-Name). Some are paedophiles and have such horrific urges. Does it mean that the paedophiles are supposed to follow their urges just because they are 'natural' to them? Gurbani teaches us that urges, inclinations or desires can be subdued through reading, listening, contemplating and understanding the Guru's Shabad, keeping company with the Saadh Sangat (company of the Holy), sewa (selfless service) and Naam Simran (devotional remembrance and meditation of the Lord).[/COLOR] [FONT=Raavi][COLOR=navy]ਕਾਮ [/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=navy][FONT=Raavi]ਕ੍ਰੋਧ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਲੋਭ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਮਦ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਮਤਸਰ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਸਾਧੂ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਕੈ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਸੰਗਿ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਖਾਪ [/FONT][FONT=Aparajita]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=navy][I]"Sexual desire, anger, greed, pride and envy are destroyed in the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy."[/I][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=navy](Ang 1223)[/COLOR][/FONT] [B][COLOR=navy]SAME-SEX RELATIONSHIPS?[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=navy]Having premarital relations with the opposite sex is same as having premarital relations with the same sex - they are both unacceptable in the Sikh faith. They both are the result of Kaam (lust) which a GurSikh must be able to control. Guru Sahib prohibits the Sikh from even gazing at another with the intention of romance, lust, or sexual affection: [/COLOR] [FONT=Raavi][COLOR=navy]ਪਰ [/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=navy][FONT=Raavi]ਤ੍ਰਿਅ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਰੂਪੁ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਨ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਪੇਖੈ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਨੇਤ੍ਰ [/FONT][FONT=Aparajita]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [I][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=navy]"With your eyes, do not even gaze (in a lustful manner) upon the beauty of another."[/COLOR][/FONT][/I] [I][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=navy](Sukhmani Sahib, Ang 274)[/COLOR][/FONT][/I] [FONT=Raavi][COLOR=navy]ਦੇਖਿ [/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=navy][FONT=Raavi]ਪਰਾਈਆਂ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਚੰਗੀਆਂ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਮਾਵਾਂ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਭੈਣਾਂ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਧੀਆਂ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਜਾਣੈ [/FONT][FONT=Aparajita]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [I][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=navy]"Men should look at the opposite gender as mothers, sisters and daughters, (women should look at the opposite gender as fathers, brothers and sons)."[/COLOR][/FONT][/I] [I][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=navy](Bhāī Gurdās: Vār 29/ Paurī 11)[/COLOR][/FONT][/I] [B][COLOR=navy]SAME-SEX MARRIAGE[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=navy]According to the Sikh Rehit Maryada, the Anand Karaj (Sikh marriage) can only be between a Sikh man and woman only. Sexual relationship can only be between the couple married under the Anand Karaj maryada. Denouncing the practice of same-sex marriages, Jathedar of Akal Takht, issued a directive with the seal of Sri Akaal Takht Sahib that prohibited any Gurdwara in the world to hold such ceremonies. Jathedar Giani Joginder Singh Vedanti described same sex marriages as an ‘anti-Gurmat’ trend that had no place in Sikhism. [/COLOR] [FONT=Raavi][COLOR=navy]ਸੋ [/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=navy][FONT=Raavi]ਸਿਖੁ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਸਖਾ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਬੰਧਪੁ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਹੈ[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਭਾਈ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਜਿ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਕੇ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਭਾਣੇ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਵਿਚਿ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਆਵੈ [/FONT][FONT=Aparajita]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Raavi]ਆਪਣੈ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਭਾਣੈ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਜੋ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਚਲੈ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਭਾਈ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਵਿਛੁੜਿ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਚੋਟਾ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਖਾਵੈ [/FONT][FONT=Aparajita]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=navy][FONT=Raavi]ਬਿਨੁ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਸਤਿਗੁਰ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਸੁਖੁ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਕਦੇ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਨ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਪਾਵੈ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਭਾਈ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਫਿਰਿ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਫਿਰਿ [/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਪਛੋਤਾਵੈ [/FONT][FONT=Aparajita]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੧[/FONT][FONT=Aparajita]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=navy][I]"He alone is a Sikh, a friend, a relative and a sibling, who walks in the Way of the Guru's Will. One who walks according to his own will, O Siblings of Destiny, suffers separation from the Lord, and shall be punished. Without the True Guru, peace is never obtained, O Siblings of Destiny; again and again, he regrets and repents. ||1||"[/I][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=navy](Ang 601)[/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=navy]Guru Sahib gave Sikhs Hukam (Order). Hukam and Rehit (discipline) put boundaries on our behaviour. We all need discipline in life. Some may say why we do you stop people from smoking, you do not believe they are equal to you? But reality is everyone is equal, but as a Gursikhs, we choose a 'Niraala Panth' (a Distinct Path). The 'Niraala panth' is defined by Rehit and Hukam.[/COLOR] [COLOR=navy]Marriage is two souls merging into one. However even this union which is not based on Kaam (lust), but love, respect and within Gurmat, even that is also temporary. The true Union is between a person and Akaal - this is permanent. When one achieves that union, everything else is put into perspective and is incomparable. Even if a person is naturally homosexual, as one cannot become one, or a person is heterosexual and full of lust (Kaam) or not, and lives as a true disciple of Guru, all of them should search for this 'true union', because without it there is no way to quench their thirst. To obtain this union, one has to forsake all, and live in the discipline of Gurmat Rehit (discipline in accordance to the Guru's Way), and have a longing for the Darshan, Blessed Vision, of Waheguru. [/COLOR] [B][COLOR=navy]RESPECT FOR ALL HUMAN BEINGS[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=navy]A Sikh of the Guru treats all humanity with dignity and respect. We may not agree with homosexual's lifestyle, and occasional mannerisms, but we could also on a personal level not agree with the lifestyles of 95% of humanity who love to drink, and others smoke, etc. So we should not be hypocrites and judge some and not others. One should strive to appreciate every human as they are on a humanitarian basis and build upon their Jeevan (spiritually disciplined life). A Sikh should share common positive virtues. If someone sees God inside you then one should direct the other person towards Gurbani. The fact is the Amritdhari lifestyle does not allow of homosexuality, and this is not debatable.[/COLOR] [COLOR=navy]source: [/COLOR][URL="http://www.sikhism101.com/node/137"][U][COLOR=navy]http://www.sikhism101.com/node/137[/COLOR][/U][/URL] _______________________________________________________ [COLOR=red][B][U]RE: YOUR QUESTION - Can a gay man take amrit ?[/U][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]We can express our personal opinions here , but I would implore you to approach "FIVE BELOVED ONES" directly or through a intermediary and pose the question to them![/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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