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Old 10-Apr-2006, 02:09 AM
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sath shri akal jee.

i've always thought that God in sikhism is the same as God in Islam, a unseen God, and not as in christianity where Jesus is God.
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but now when im reading on varius webpages, and sikh books people are calling Nanak "Satguru", Gobind Singh is called the "Creator", and Nanak is called Nirankar..

was Guru Nanak God?

i've even read such statements here on this page.

if he was, then who was he praying to?

it does not make sence to me, that Guru Nanak and the following Gurus could have been God..
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can someone please explain to me who God and the Guru's are in sikhism...

thank u in advance...


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Old 10-Apr-2006, 11:05 AM
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[quote=Amardeep]sath shri akal jee.

i've always thought that God in sikhism is the same as God in Islam, a unseen God, and not as in christianity where Jesus is God.

but now when im reading on varius webpages, and sikh books people are calling Nanak "Satguru", Gobind Singh is called the "Creator", and Nanak is called Nirankar..

was Guru Nanak God?

Guru Nanak Dev ji is One with the One. His Guru is the Shabd Guru. His Guru is Pavan.
Joshua (Jesus) has the same relationship with the Divine.
"I am the Way" (I am the Dharma)
Unless you live Dharma, You will have Karma
"No man comes to the Father except by (The Guru)
Remember the "Gospels" were written many years after Jesus walked amongst these earey followers. This was the beginning of the Piscean Age.
It has been an 2000 plus year cycle of 'Beliefs' and secrets.
Guru Nanak Dev Ji is the Guru for this Age (Aquarius)
His Hymns (Gospel) are composed by Him. They are sung by him. All the Guru's, the Bagats, Saints all sang the same Hymn. The same Bani.
Buddhism is the inner path. Islam is the path of submission to God's Divine Will.
Judaism is the ancient path of Dharma as is the path of the Vedas (Hindus)
The main message of Jesus is in one Gospel (Matthew) The Sermon on the Mount.
Most all the so called "New Testament" are letters of the convert (Paul)
This makes up most of the worship of Jesus as a God.
Interesting that in this religion, Jesus is God, but a man Jesus is betrayed by another man (Judas)
God is not betrayed by something outside God. God is the Doer!
Sat Kartar! Ong Sang Wahe Guru!
Jesus even prays an ancient Jewish prayer, probably taught to him by his mother.
In that (Ardas) he implores God to
...lead us not into temptation but deliver us from Evil"
In the Ardas of Guru Gobind Singh,
The 10th Master says, keep us from Lust, Anger, Greed, Pride, and Attachment, but keep us ever attached to Thy Lotus Feet."
The reason so many have duality with what Jesus says is the time we are in.
The Khalsa is rising and the way of the Cross is waning.
Guru Gobind Singh came here for one reason. Not to establish his religion, or the worship of this personality. The Rehit is to save the man from his duality and to establish Dharma. In order to do that he created the Khalsa and bestowed the Guruship with Siri Guru Granth Sahib.
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Now the Word is Worshiip, the Disciple is the disciplined one who serves the Dharma. The way of the Righteous is experienced within the soul.
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Jesus has handed the bataan to Guru Nanak Dev Ji through Guru Gobind Singh. The Spirit is exalted and all prosper by Thy Grace.
Waho Waho Gobinda Singh, Ape Guru Chela!
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Old 10-Apr-2006, 21:23 PM
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i see..

so God is an unseen God as in Islam, and the Guru's were just enlightend with "light" and were one with God, even though they were not God?
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i see...
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your taking of god being external. Thats your point of view. The thing is god is inernal and external. Its like, we dont know of it but its the truth. God is the ultimate truth that exists. I am not saying it in gods point of view as i dont know what god is, but god is everywhere, we are part of it...thts our human body...but god is us, and we are god, but we are like the extentions of god. God is within us. Believe in the truth with all your heart. This site might help you, its what sikhism is, but this is someone who actually taken the basics of sikhism, though he hasnt mentioned it: http://www.adidam.org/teaching/first...lete_text.html
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Wow, I only read the first two paragraphs and am suprised to hear how much it sounds like Sikhism!

Amardeep; perhaps this analogy will help you.
We know that there are three parts to an atom, the electron, proton, and neutron. Then there are subatomic particles that make up each atom, like the quark. It will be awile till science discovers the next step; personally i dont think they will ever find the end to guru's Creation. But anyway, think of God/guru/Spirit/soul whatever you want to call it, as, say another subatomic particle, or something proven but intangible; the magnetic poles, love, time, the sikhtron (yes i know thats not a documented term, i just made it up for the sak of the example). Its hard to get your head around when you been brought up on something else your entire life; I still dont understand it to the point of Oh! or whatever, but i understand the principle of it.

Like when you're in second grade or so, and the teacher is trying to explain the concept of time. How to get that first understanding? That is the most difficult.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8536
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When you think of say, your keyboard, and its shadow. You think they are entirly different things, but we know there is a reason for these. Dont think of the wind as air, it is God. Why does the wind blow? Because of the wind over there? Humans breathing? God is in the buttons you press, the lungs you use to breathe air into your body, the greass outside. "just because you can't see it doesn't mean it isnt there."


Clear as mud? Hope i made some sense. :P

Sat Sri Akal
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Awal Allah noor upaya kudrat ke sab bande
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GOD IS ONE & WE ARE ALL MEN OF GOD
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God Is One Who Created The Whole World And We All Are The Son Of That God,ev
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Just because different religions named him differently, it doesn't mean there are different Gods...
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God's name is Bob.
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Bob the God.

That's why they rhyme.
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