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Old 10-Nov-2009, 19:37 PM
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So many people including so called sikhs do refer to the phrase "falling in love".
I can't really imagine how can somebody fall in love with somebody living on earth and if they feel any sort of attraction can label it as Love.
love is not such a small thing . it is a state wherein the lover forgets who is he/she himself is. he/she cannot resist the feeling to meet his beloved. As in Guru Granth Sahib
ਮੈ ਬਉਰੀ ਮੇਰਾ ਰਾਮੁ ਭਤਾਰੁ (i have become mad without lord and lord is my only releiver . he is my husband.)
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ਰਚਿ ਰਚਿ ਤਾ ਕਉ ਕਰਉ ਸਿੰਗਾਰੁ ॥੧॥ ( Ang 1164, GGS)
( i decorate and adorn myself for him).

Now is there anybody in this world that can match this feeling.
So why have belief in love marriage. I know everybody says they love their family.freinds,etc. but that is just an attraction. They r just a part of ur life cycle.
ur aim does not end on them.
Everybody has a choice, either make ur family and freinds as classmates to reach with them to the final destination of God or just forget urself with them and spoil their lives too .
i do not say that u don't care about them . Taking care is a responsibility u have towards ur family but do not attach so closely to them so as to forget the real path.
NEVER PRACTICE RENEUNCIATION. IT IS THE ART OF THE WEAK AND THE FOOLS. SIKHS REMIAN IN GRAHISTH BUT STILL TRY TO ACHIEVE THE REAL PATH.




 
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Falling in love, being in love is a most powerful experience. It is unlike any other. It is heady and intoxicating. When in love, nothing else matters. Being in love encompasses the whole being, physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual. It is a taste of our ultimate union with Akaal Purakh. It is no accidence or coincidence that we are called the bride and he is called our husband.

It is also a trap. Romantic love is always based on attachment, often with a strong element of kaam, as well. It is usually both obsessive and fleeting. And when it ends - by betrayal or disappointment or death - we are left bereft and disillusioned. To recover is a long and difficult process.

My first marriage was a love match with the love of my life, a Khalsa beyond compare, a great and loving man. After he died, for many long years, I sleep-walked through life, betraying most of what we had lived together and all that he had embodied. I purposely broke almost all my Khalsa vows. I stepped off a cliff and I fell hard. By the kirpaa of Vaheguru, my Guru ji caught me in his arms. I was badly injured, but still alive and able to work toward recovery.
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Today, my life is difficult, but full and rewarding. My Guru Papaji and the Saadh Sangat have welcomed me back with love and compassion. (OK, there are some not so generous. There are always some, eh?)

Was the joy of that kind of love worth the fall and pain it caused? It was all the Hukam of Vaheguru. The person I am today bears little resemblance to that giddy young girl of 18 who married her beloved. I am deeper, stronger, more compassionate, by Guru ji's kirpaa, an altogether more grown up person.
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I will be honest. I like the person I am today. I am far from perfect, I still have a long, long way to go, but Guru ji has carried me a step or two in the right direction.

My advice on romantic love? I have none. I can only share my own experience and hope someone can learn something from it.
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Old 11-Nov-2009, 11:15 AM
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re: Do Sikhs Fall in Love with Somebody?

Mai ji
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I am a romantic of sorts. I was already deeply in love when I married. I could not imagine marrying without love, arranged marriage?, hell no. Marry because of family pressure or accommodation?, not a snowballs chance in hell!

I was with my wife for 20 years and married for 16 before she died of cancer. The pain and despair were severe but would I rather have not had the time with her to avoid the loss?, never.
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I often think that people who speak of love in blase or negative terms have not experienced love, have not known love and love has not known them.

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re: Do Sikhs Fall in Love with Somebody?

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How you define LOVE ??????????

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why don't we all understand.
our aim in this world is not to be attached to human beings. we need to find the way to god as soon as possible and try to reach God.
we and our fellow human beings are there to support each of us as we all are on the same mission.
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we are like classmates in a school. Clearing exams( reaching to god) should be our utmost priority. in the way we can give help or take help from our fellow classmates.
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why don't we all understand.
our aim in this world is not to be attached to human beings. we need to find the way to god as soon as possible and try to reach God.
we and our fellow human beings are there to support each of us as we all are on the same mission.
we are like classmates in a school. Clearing exams( reaching to god) should be our utmost priority. in the way we can give help or take help from our fellow classmates.

My dearest Aman ji,

Whilst what you say seems to make sense, we are warned about the 5 theives and attachment is of course one of them, however we are also warn not to live the asthetic life, to live instead the life of a house holder, have a family, raise children.

How can we do thios without feeling attachement to our spouse? Further more 'Ik onkar'. God is 1.

What does this say to you?

It tells me that there is not one iota of existance that is not God, how can I love God without loving all?

When I look around me, when I notice the wounderfull veriaty of life we have here, all the differant people, all the differant ideas, it fills my head with astoundment. I'm in love with life, I love this earth, I love my family my freinds, even thoses I have yet to meet, I guess you can say without fear of contridiction, 'But Lee, you are attached to life here'

And I would say yes I am, how can I not love all that I see and claim I love God?
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Hardip ji

You asked "How you define LOVE ?????????? "

Now isn't that one of the hardest questions to answer?
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I assume you are asking about romantic love between two people.

Love is a deeply felt emotion between to people where each fills what is missing in the other therefore making each feel complete.

I think it is better described than defined. Love is not lust although it may be a part of it and thus remain when lust is gone. Love is putting someone ahead of you because making them happy makes the other happy. I could go on but will not.
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Do Sikhs fall in love? Of course, Sikhs fall in love. We are not immune from any of the common experiences of humanity. I was deeply in love with Mani and we had a wonderful, romantic marriage. If it happens, it happens.

But I repeat what I said before. Romantic love is based on attachment and has its own dangers. If it is used to bring the woman and man closer to Guru ji, it is a good thing.

Also, most of being "in love" is short-lived. It can grow into a long-term, loving relationship, if the people involved have sufficient maturity and determination. I know that in the West, the only accepted reason for marriage is being "in love." I also know that the divorce rate for such marriages is very high, as so many have unrealistic ideas of what marriage will be. I am not against love matches at all. I just think it is important for the two people to be prepared. Love may be a necessary condition; it is not sufficient.

Do the couple agree on children and child-rearing, finances, division of labour and the like? Are their values very similar? Especially among Punjabis, do the families get along? There are many considerations besides being in love.
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Also, if they have an attitude, common in the West, that "if it doesn't work out, we can get a divorce," I can almost guarantee that they will get a divorce because, even in the best marriages, there will almost certainly be times when it isn't working out. These times pass if the two are determined, but many give up and opt out.

I am not cold or hard-hearted and I don't want to dampen anyone's joy; I just think this needs to be looked at reasonably.
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Hardip ji

You asked "How you define LOVE ?????????? "

Now isn't that one of the hardest questions to answer?

I assume you are asking about romantic love between two people.

Love is a deeply felt emotion between to people where each fills what is missing in the other therefore making each feel complete.

I think it is better described than defined. Love is not lust although it may be a part of it and thus remain when lust is gone. Love is putting someone ahead of you because making them happy makes the other happy. I could go on but will not.

Peace
Satyaban
Yes, Satyaben jee
It is the hardest thing to explain. It could vary from your love to your wife or beloved one to kids to your parrents.......... to your friends......to your countrymen......................last but not least towards the Almighty which could be defined as the true love which as Mai jee has said in her post could not be broken as all other forms of love could be divorced.
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