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  1. Kairos

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    hello

    i would like to learn more abouth sikh religion.
    Why is it in your view the " right ", or true religion, over other ones ?
    Why should someone prefere to become a Sikh, instead a Muslim, or christian, or buddhist , for example ?
     
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    re: Why is Sikhism the true religion ?

    I suppose you would have to become a Sikh, Muslim, Buddist, Jain and Christian etc etc and then be able to answer your question........

    On a simpler note I think the Sikh religion is a refinement of all the other religions and therefore you are only presented with all the goodies..... exmple we do not pray to idols, we should believe in equality, we pray to God and not say the founders, we believe in being natural...... someone add some more.... thanks winkingmunda

    "Why is it in your view the " right ", or true religion, over other ones ?"

    Well I cannot remember which Guru said it when asked by a moghul which is better Hinduism or Islam that the Guru replied that they are both good... so if you are a Hindu, be a good Hindu, if you are a good Christian be a good Christian, if you choose to be a SIkh then be a good SIkh.... different methods of getting to the same creator.
     
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    re: Why is Sikhism the true religion ?

    could you tell me what is the core message of sikh religion ?


    So do you belief in one creator, or in the existence of many gods ?
    do you believe, the creator revealed himseld through all religions in the world ?
     
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    re: Why is Sikhism the true religion ?

    1. Be good, fight oppression, worship God, live a good family life, work hard, give charity, be a saint and a soldier swordfight

    2. We belive in one God, the God of all gods, universes and beings. We came to know of him through enlightened people who went on to form religions
     
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    re: Why is Sikhism the true religion ?

    thanks for your answer.

    how does a Sikh deal with guilt and sin ?

    Who is the God a Sikh believes in, and how did he reveal himself to us ?
    how could it be through all religions, if for example christianity teaches, that only the God of Abraham should be worshipped, and only Jesus Christ is the way to heaven, and other religions, like islam, for example, tells the oposit ?
    Since the views do opose on to the other, both could not tell the truth.
     
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    re: Why is Sikhism the true religion ?

    In Sikhism God is very forgiving in many places in Gurbani the Guru tells us that he forgives us if we understand our mistakes. In the first prayer of Sikhism Jap Ji Sahib Guru Nanak tells us that when our Body get dirty we use soap to wash it off. When we commit sins we chant and meditate on the Naam (Name of the Lord) it washes the sins of the soul.

    The Lord in Sikhism is the Highest and Lord of all other celestial beings and universes.Whenever sin increases in the Earth there is an increase of falsehood and Truth is covered the Lord will come to destroy falsehood.Guru Gobind Singh ji (10th Guru) writes in Dasam Granth that whenever there is an increase in Sin on the Earth then I will come to stop it, to protect the saints and destroy all evil-doers.

    Guru Nanak( 1st Guru) gave us Gurbani, and Naam. Gurbani is the path it shows the greatness of Naam and how to live your life it teaches how to meditate on Naam to reach the ultimate goal to go back home like a drop of water (Soul) going into the Ocean (Lord)
     
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    re: Why is Sikhism the true religion ?

    The God that we belive in is the same God that is known by many names: Allah, God etc etc he is without limit - YouTube- Ek Onkar (mool mantra) and cannot be described fully

    Deal with guilt and sin? Well if you are amritdari then you tell the paanj pyarah and then will how to go in the right direction, but at the end of the day you have to master your own evils to over come sin and therefore no more guilt through self determination, meditation on Gods name and will power
     
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    re: Why is Sikhism the true religion ?

    What is the name of the God of sikhism ? How did he reveal himself, and his rools to be followed ? To who did he give his revelation ? What evidence exists, that the revelation is from the true God, since there are many thousands of different Gods propagated in the world, and some religions propagate millions of different Gods, like hinduism.


    But it seems he is not very sucessful doint that, since sin and falsehood are increasing on earth ever since.

    so how do you explain, that so many people do suffer in jail of many countries, not for what they have done bad, but for their particular faith ?
     
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    re: Why is Sikhism the true religion ?

    The name of the lord in Sikhism is Waheguru maeaning the wondorous Lord who dispells darkness. When Guruu Nanak was bathing in the river Vayee and disappeared After three days Guru Nanak appeared at the same spot from where he had disappeared. He was no longer the same person he had been and there was a divine light in his eyes and his face was resplendent. Guru Nanak was in the Holy Communion with God. The Lord God revealed Himself to Guru Nanak and enlightened him. Then onwards, Guru Nanak began extensive travel to spread the message of God in the form of musical hymns. Guru Nanak gave us naam and with it saved us from the noose of death.

    Sin is ever increasing throughout the World it is the Kali Yuga (Dark Age). The Guru will come and give us Satya Yug (Golden Age) but at the end of ever Kali Yuga there is a great amount of destruction and"cleansing". When the Guru will come it is his own will. Although the time is soon.

    People suffer and experience sadness according to your own karma in this life and the previous ones. Unfortunately Guru ji did not give us the knowledge of our previous lives through all the various species weve been born through and as humans, im sure if we knew we would all strive to meditate on Naam and love it winkingmunda and escape the transmigration of the Soul.
     
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    re: Why is Sikhism the true religion ?

    thanks for your explanations. As you know, there are thousands of different religions around the world. Each one proclaiming a different divinity, and different spiritual orders and existences. How do you distinguish the one that tells us the truth, from the one, that is human invention,and does not reflect truth and reality ? what makes you sure, Sikhism is the true religion, and not islam, or christianity, or Buddhism, or something else ? What makes you believe, the teaching of reencarnation is true ?
     
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    re: Why is Sikhism the true religion ?

    The thread title has been changed. It was originally: How to become a sikh? Why is it the true religion?

    At this point it is necessary for me to point out that the conversation so far has nothing to do with "How to become a Sikh?"

    I have edited the thread title. Only the first part of it remains with a word changed. The new title is Why is Sikhism the true religion? That part was retained. The second part of the original title "How to become a Sikh?" has been removed.
     
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    Re: Why is Sikhism the true religion ?

    If i answer this in a personal way i have unshakable faith in the Guru. The Guru's blessings have always been in my family. When i do a ardass (Prayer) when i ask God to help me with something or get me out of a mess it has happened. I can safetly say that whenever i almost due something bad i can hear the Guru i can hear the teachings and i know it is wrong, I still commit many mistakes may the Lord forgive me. God created this Universe and who knows how many more he created evidence for alot of things but not for himself. The idea of faith is in every religion. In sikhism no matter how much you learn you can repeat the Naam millions of times if you dont have faith in your Satguru (True spiritual Teacher) you gain nothing. In sikhism we respect all other religions, Guru Nanak himself respected beings like Mohammed Jesus that they had spiritual power.

    One story when Guru Nanak was preaching his ideas he reached Baghdad highly populated with Muslims. The town head said that Mohammed said that there are only 3 universes (if im not mistaken), and he said to Guru Nanak you preach there are millions of universes upon realms and more which the exact number is known to the Lord,this is not accepted.Guru Nanak replied the Great Mohammed he had so much spiritual power he could see 3 universes but only 3! The towns head's son said if there are so many then show me, Guru Nanak took his hand took him up out of the earth and showed many nether regions and universes until he was begging because he was scared Guru Nanak brought him back. His father said what did you see he said i saw millions upon millions of universes where i lost count so many different colors and shapes. Then the muslims accepted Guru Nanak into Baghdad , and he never asked people to convert he just spread the faith and whoevers destinies were great followed the path of Guru Nanak.

    Its very difficult to answer this type of question all i can say is that when i learn of great beings saints of this religion the things they gained from meditating on the great medcine of this age naam it is unbelievable. some saved people from dying from diseases you cant live from just by saying the Naam. Many of them whatever came out of there mouths becomes true.

    When Kabir started meditating on one God who is timeless formless for awhile, and stopped he felt as if his soul has some power now. there were some nearby birds he told told them to die, they died he said live and the souls came back into there bodies this is just one of a moutain full of examples,but this isnt the point of mediatating and reciting Naam these are thing that happen along the way when doing your devotion to God. so when your timeto leave this Matt Lok (Earth) comes the Guru will guide you safetly.

    http://tuhitu.blogspot.com/
    this is a great site that has many great stories of sikhism click around and read some even if your not a Sikh a person can learn alot to live a better life.:)
     
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    Re: Why is Sikhism the true religion ?

    This is an excerpt from an article "May all beings be happy! from http://www.gurbani.org

    When one prays for all (Sarbat), then the entire universe prays for him! Like all beads are strung on one thread, and all waves are formed from the same one water, so are we all strung on the same One Awareness. Therefore, we are inseparable like the whiteness of the snow, oil in the seed, fragrance in the flower, heat in the fire, liquidity of the water, blackness in the collyrium, light in the bulb, waves in the ocean, gold in the bracelet, clay in the pot, and rays in the sun. This is why our lives are interwoven with the thread of Divine Love. God is Love. It is this Divine Love that brings harmony between souls. As such, the influence of our daily actions and behavior spreads in ever-widening circles. As our lives are interwoven, we can each draw the needed strength from all-pervading Divine Presence within to help each other.
    • ਸੂਤੁ ਏਕੁ ਮਣਿ ਸਤ ਸਹੰਸ ਜੈਸੇ ਓਤਿ ਪੋਤਿ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਸੋਈ ॥: Sooth ek mani sat sahans jaise out poti prabh soee: As one thread holds hundreds and thousands of beads, He is woven into His creation (sggs 425).
    • ਅਨਲ ਅਗਮ ਜੈਸੇ ਲਹਰਿ ਮਇ ਓਦਧਿ ਜਲ ਕੇਵਲ ਜਲ ਮਾਂਹੀ ॥: Anal agam jaise lahar mayi oudadh jal keval jal maanhee: The wind may raise up huge waves in the vast ocean, but they are just water in water (sggs 657).
    • ਤੋਹੀ ਮੋਹੀ ਮੋਹੀ ਤੋਹੀ ਅੰਤਰੁ ਕੈਸਾ ॥ ਕਨਕ ਕਟਿਕ ਜਲ ਤਰੰਗ ਜੈਸਾ ॥੧॥: Tohee mohee mohee tohee antar kaisaa. Kanak katik jal trang jaisaa ||1||: You are me, and I am You—what is the difference between us? We are like gold and the bracelet, or water and the waves ||1|| (sggs 93).
    • ਭਗਵਾਨ ਰਮਣੰ ਸਰਬਤ੍ਰ ਥਾਨ੍ਹਿੰ ॥: Bhagavaan ramanam sarabatar thaanim: God is pervading and permeating all places (1354).
     
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    i have made the same experience with the God, to which i pray, which is Jesus Christ, many many times.

    that happens to me as well. When i do something wrong, i know its wrong, since the bible is like a mirror to me. The bible tells me the right path, the right way to go. When i don't do, what the bible tells is the right thing, i know i am doing something wrong.

    I believe in the revelation through nature, which indicates us a creator has made all that exists. But i believe also, that God revealed himself through his successive revelation in the bible, which culminated with the coming of Christ, which was true men, and true God, having both natures inside him. He was the perfect revelation of God. As he said : Who sees me, sees God the father. He and me, we are one.

    As a christian, my faith is only toward the God of the bible, God father, God son ( Jesus Christ ) , and God the holy spirit, which habits in all his children.

    As a christian i respect also all people which do belong to a different religion than christianity. That means however not, that i need to agree with these teachings.

    I have so far, sorry to be frank, not seen any examplification or explanation, why Sikhism is the true religion. It seems its just based on personal experiences. See : in christianity, many healings, and miracles happen. Christ also made many miracles, and i know from many people, that prayed to the God of the bible, and got heald from breast cancer, aids, and many other deseases. So we need to figure out a other way to find out, which religion might be the true religion. Since christianity says so, but Sikhism says differently. Since the followers of both religions make supernatural experiences, like healing of deseases etc. this cannot be a paramenter to find out, where the truth relies.

    What makes me believe, the bible is true, are not only personal experiences, but also what the bible tells us. There are literally hundreds of fullfilled prophecies, which are a strong evidence, what the bible tells us, is true.
     
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    Kairos Ji ,
    This might seem a out of the subject but in Gurbani ( Sikhism ) we certainly do not believe in the neccesity ( usefulness ) of miracles except that they produce EGO in the human beings doing it . It is only God whom we believe is capable of doing miracles . Also we do not believe in any prophecies or any prophecies coming true . Sikhism is a pragmatic religion which believes in One God for the whole Universe ( all religions like Judaism , Islam , Christianity , Hinduism , Atheists Sikhs etc etc ) , each of the world religions have been formed as per His will . Each path lead to same God ( some are simpler ,shorter others are longer ,
    more complex ) Each one is capable of getting liberated ( even atheists ) it all depends upon His mercy ( will ) . So each one of us should pray to that God the qualities of Whom cannot be described but mentioned briefly in MOOLMANTAR which goes as " There is but One God , His name is Truth ( He does exists ) , He is the Creator Sustainer Destroyer , Sans Fear ( neither gives fear nor takes fear ) , Sans enemies ( has no enemies ) , Timeless , Does not come in cycles of births & deaths , He is all by Himself , He is attained by the Grace of True Guru ( Word Teacher / Sri Guru Granth Sahib ) "
     
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    the point is not, if someone believes, or not believes in prophecies. Fact is , that the bible contains ~ 2500 profecies,and ~ 2000 of them fullfilled, no errors, specially in regard of the coming of the messiah. That demands a position. Why is it so ? Only God knows the future. Isnt it then, that the bible was inspired by the living God ? I don't know of any other religious book with thousands of prophecies, which fullfilled 100%. Only the bible. For me, that is evidence, the bible is God's word.

    http://www.reasons.org/fulfilled-prophecy-evidence-reliability-bible


    I would say : they have been formed by his permission. I believe however, that God wants that all know the truth, which leads to forgiveness for sins, and forever life. Since every religion tells a other story, not all religions can be true. If someone tells you, reencarnation exists, and someone else, there will be ressurrection, and judgement afterwards, both cannot be true. Reality is only one, and the truth is only one. Religions are the initiative of humans , to find God, and create their ways to reach that God. The truth is revealed however, when the true living God reveals himself to us. I believe, he has done that through the bible. Here, listed some reasons , why i believe the bible is true :

    http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-t003.html


    If that would be true, than Jesus Christ would be wrong, and he would be a liar :

    "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
     
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    Re: Why is Sikhism the true religion ?

    I have been watching the thread and have concerns. It has been moved out of New to Sikhism and into Interfaith Dialogs in order to clarify to those interested in Sikhism that much we are reading here is not Sikhism but Christian dogma.

    Everyone needs to remain aware of the SPN prohibition against proselytizing. Thank you
     
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    Re: Why is Sikhism the true religion ?

    Kairos ji,

    Guru fateh.

    I have been watching this interaction going back and forth and decided to give me 2 cent worth in a factual manner.

    The fact is:

    What "Jesus said" is in doubt. All Jesus' words are second-hand quotes by Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John. This Son of an omnipotent, omniscient God who could confound the wise men of the temple never wrote his own gospel, not even a single word.

    Whereas all the Gurbani in Sri Guru Granth Sahib, our only Guru, is written by the original authours. There is no hearsay in Sri Guru Granth Sahib as it is in the Bible.

    Regards

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    Re: Why is Sikhism the true religion ?

    the bible says :

    "All Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for teaching, reproof, correction and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work."

    wheter you believe , the bible is trustworthy, or not, is entirely your decision.
    I can only testify that i believe, its God's word, 100%. There are many reasons to believe so. If Jesus would not have ressurrected, there would be no christianity today.

    http://www.tektonics.org/lp/nowayjose.html
     
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    Something that i find very beautiful of sikhism is that it does not condemn you to some sort of Hell for not being part of that faith rather your judged upon your good and bad actions
     
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