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continued from previous post as I ran out of 3000 characters.
ਜਲ ਤੇ ਊਠਹਿ ਅਨਿਕ ਤਰੰਗਾ ॥
जल ते ऊठहि अनिक तरंगा ॥
Jal ṯe ūṯẖėh anik ṯarangā.
Countless waves rise up from the water.
(Here again, it's refering to something solid... physical... so it's speaking about form and not states of mind. It`s also using water as an analogy. The ocean is the truth just as one pool of conscious energy... out of which countless waves rise up. But the waves are still all the ocean, even though they seem separate from each other they are all of the same source, the ocean. You can`t point at a wave and say ``that is not the ocean``.)
ਕਨਿਕ ਭੂਖਨ ਕੀਨੇ ਬਹੁ ਰੰਗਾ ॥
कनिक भूखन कीने बहु रंगा ॥
Kanik bẖūkẖan kīne baho rangā.
Jewels and ornaments of many different forms are fashioned from gold.
(But they are still the gold from which they were created...again it outright stated earlier that the source, or what remains after these different characters or forms are gone, is Ik Onkar not our mind or maan)
ਬੀਜੁ ਬੀਜਿ ਦੇਖਿਓ ਬਹੁ ਪਰਕਾਰਾ ॥
बीजु बीजि देखिओ बहु परकारा ॥
Bīj bīj ḏekẖi▫o baho parkārā.
I have seen seeds of all kinds being planted -
ਫਲ ਪਾਕੇ ਤੇ ਏਕੰਕਾਰਾ ॥੨॥
फल पाके ते एकंकारा ॥२॥
Fal pāke ṯe ekankārā. ||2||
when the fruit ripens, the seeds appear in the same form as the original. ||2||
(Here we are seeing description of reflection or expression of the source. It is a common belief in ALL spiritual paths that creation is a direct reflection of the creator. As Above so Below, Made in God's 'image', etc. is not referring to a literal physical copy - as physical is not the base of the Universe but energy is. So what is being reflected as the source? Creative potential / Consciousness... as humans we posses creative potential as the Creator. Just as seeds contain the creative potential of the parent plant. They grow and become as the original, eventuially creating their own seeds which again repeat the creative process. But as we have seen above we are only reflections... we are merely characters being played by the ONE we are not the source but just a reflection of that source. All is as a play where the same one actor is playing ALL the parts, and has created the play. --Gurbani also equates it to a chessboard, where *he* is the board, and also all the pieces AND the players!)
ਸਹਸ ਘਟਾ ਮਹਿ ਏਕੁ ਆਕਾਸੁ ॥
सहस घटा महि एकु आकासु ॥
Sahas gẖatā mėh ek ākās.
The one sky is reflected in thousands of water jugs,
ਘਟ ਫੂਟੇ ਤੇ ਓਹੀ ਪ੍ਰਗਾਸੁ ॥
घट फूटे ते ओही प्रगासु ॥
Gẖat fūte ṯe ohī pargās.
but when the jugs are broken, only the sky remains.
(Again, you can see many skies reflected in different forms, but only ONE sky exists... it's another comparison to show us how there is only ONE. I can't see how this is speaking of only states of mind...)
ਭਰਮ ਲੋਭ ਮੋਹ ਮਾਇਆ ਵਿਕਾਰ ॥
भरम लोभ मोह माइआ विकार ॥
Bẖaram lobẖ moh mā▫i▫ā vikār.
Doubt comes from greed, emotional attachment and the corruption of Maya.
(Doubt about this truth to reality, comes from our attachment to that which is not real... the material physical world and our attachment to these false identities as the characters)
ਭ੍ਰਮ ਛੂਟੇ ਤੇ ਏਕੰਕਾਰ ॥੩॥
भ्रम छूटे ते एकंकार ॥३॥
Bẖaram cẖẖūte ṯe ekankār. ||3||
Freed from doubt, one realizes the One Lord alone. ||3||
(So... after it tells us about ONEness and how the characters are false, and that there is only One actor, God... it tells us that freed from doubt we will realize the One *Lord* alone. The usage of the word Braham is very specific that it's speaking of knowledge of Creator here and not our mind or maan. If we were to take your meaning and apply states of mind and meism to the whole shabad, then what is it that it is saying we are realizing?? Ourselves alone?? But it's using a term understood to mean God / Creator - Bahram. To me that STILL points to us collectively being the Creator!)
ਓਹੁ ਅਬਿਨਾਸੀ ਬਿਨਸਤ ਨਾਹੀ ॥
ओहु अबिनासी बिनसत नाही ॥
Oh abẖināsī binsaṯ nāhī.
He is imperishable; He will never pass away.
(The truth behind ALL of us - the characters - is the same ONE consciousness God, who is imperishible, lives beyond the characters, will never die even when the 'costumes are removed')
ਨਾ ਕੋ ਆਵੈ ਨਾ ਕੋ ਜਾਹੀ ॥
ना को आवै ना को जाही ॥
Nā ko āvai nā ko jāhī.
He does not come, and He does not go.
(Whereas the characters are transient, the actor is not)
ਗੁਰਿ ਪੂਰੈ ਹਉਮੈ ਮਲੁ ਧੋਈ ॥
गुरि पूरै हउमै मलु धोई ॥
Gur pūrai ha▫umai mal ḏẖo▫ī.
The Perfect Guru has washed away the filth of ego.
(Ego is the false sense of identity of these characters, we know it's speaking of the character identities because that's the whole point of the shabad.. these false 'forms' we are associating with.. we remove the Ego, and recognize the actor underneath is really the ONE and is the same ONE for ALL as stated in the previous lines freed from doubt we realize the ONE Lord alone, which we were told earlier was the actor playing ALL the characters (us or even if you want to interpret it as meisms or states of mind - they still lead to the same conclusion) and the word used was a word which was understood to mean Creator Braham, and not a word used to mean `mind` such as maan... so to me - and many scholars - it`s not speaking about mere states of min... its speaking about God. The word haumai, means literally selfishness, and no matter which way you look at it, selfishness is caused by separation of yourself from the ONE, or connectedness from the whole... duality. Because it`s this thinking that we are spearate from each other that creates greed - this I am better than you, I want etc. But we are told in this shabad that it`s the same ONE actor, beneath all of us. It wouldn`t make sense to apply it to a single entity and mere states of mind, as then the whole idea of ONEness doesn`t even make sense! In fact removing meisms and false states of mind, you would still be left with just YOU - no connection to all others... thusactually reinforcing this isea of ME ME ME as something separate! The way to removethe filth of ego or haumai is to realize we are not separate entitiethat is what is false! Duality is false. I can`t conceive how it would be speaking only about us as individuals and our states of mind, without recognizing that we are all ONE. Especially since it uses strong words to describe what remins after we get rid of the ego, the characters... Ik Onkar and Bahram - words used to describe the Creator!)
ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਮੇਰੀ ਪਰਮ ਗਤਿ ਹੋਈ ॥੪॥੧॥
कहु नानक मेरी परम गति होई ॥४॥१॥
Kaho Nānak merī param gaṯ ho▫ī. ||4||1||
Says Nanak, I have obtained the supreme status. ||4||1||
(The supreme status being realization of the above)
ਜਲ ਤੇ ਊਠਹਿ ਅਨਿਕ ਤਰੰਗਾ ॥
जल ते ऊठहि अनिक तरंगा ॥
Jal ṯe ūṯẖėh anik ṯarangā.
Countless waves rise up from the water.
(Here again, it's refering to something solid... physical... so it's speaking about form and not states of mind. It`s also using water as an analogy. The ocean is the truth just as one pool of conscious energy... out of which countless waves rise up. But the waves are still all the ocean, even though they seem separate from each other they are all of the same source, the ocean. You can`t point at a wave and say ``that is not the ocean``.)
ਕਨਿਕ ਭੂਖਨ ਕੀਨੇ ਬਹੁ ਰੰਗਾ ॥
कनिक भूखन कीने बहु रंगा ॥
Kanik bẖūkẖan kīne baho rangā.
Jewels and ornaments of many different forms are fashioned from gold.
(But they are still the gold from which they were created...again it outright stated earlier that the source, or what remains after these different characters or forms are gone, is Ik Onkar not our mind or maan)
ਬੀਜੁ ਬੀਜਿ ਦੇਖਿਓ ਬਹੁ ਪਰਕਾਰਾ ॥
बीजु बीजि देखिओ बहु परकारा ॥
Bīj bīj ḏekẖi▫o baho parkārā.
I have seen seeds of all kinds being planted -
ਫਲ ਪਾਕੇ ਤੇ ਏਕੰਕਾਰਾ ॥੨॥
फल पाके ते एकंकारा ॥२॥
Fal pāke ṯe ekankārā. ||2||
when the fruit ripens, the seeds appear in the same form as the original. ||2||
(Here we are seeing description of reflection or expression of the source. It is a common belief in ALL spiritual paths that creation is a direct reflection of the creator. As Above so Below, Made in God's 'image', etc. is not referring to a literal physical copy - as physical is not the base of the Universe but energy is. So what is being reflected as the source? Creative potential / Consciousness... as humans we posses creative potential as the Creator. Just as seeds contain the creative potential of the parent plant. They grow and become as the original, eventuially creating their own seeds which again repeat the creative process. But as we have seen above we are only reflections... we are merely characters being played by the ONE we are not the source but just a reflection of that source. All is as a play where the same one actor is playing ALL the parts, and has created the play. --Gurbani also equates it to a chessboard, where *he* is the board, and also all the pieces AND the players!)
ਸਹਸ ਘਟਾ ਮਹਿ ਏਕੁ ਆਕਾਸੁ ॥
सहस घटा महि एकु आकासु ॥
Sahas gẖatā mėh ek ākās.
The one sky is reflected in thousands of water jugs,
ਘਟ ਫੂਟੇ ਤੇ ਓਹੀ ਪ੍ਰਗਾਸੁ ॥
घट फूटे ते ओही प्रगासु ॥
Gẖat fūte ṯe ohī pargās.
but when the jugs are broken, only the sky remains.
(Again, you can see many skies reflected in different forms, but only ONE sky exists... it's another comparison to show us how there is only ONE. I can't see how this is speaking of only states of mind...)
ਭਰਮ ਲੋਭ ਮੋਹ ਮਾਇਆ ਵਿਕਾਰ ॥
भरम लोभ मोह माइआ विकार ॥
Bẖaram lobẖ moh mā▫i▫ā vikār.
Doubt comes from greed, emotional attachment and the corruption of Maya.
(Doubt about this truth to reality, comes from our attachment to that which is not real... the material physical world and our attachment to these false identities as the characters)
ਭ੍ਰਮ ਛੂਟੇ ਤੇ ਏਕੰਕਾਰ ॥੩॥
भ्रम छूटे ते एकंकार ॥३॥
Bẖaram cẖẖūte ṯe ekankār. ||3||
Freed from doubt, one realizes the One Lord alone. ||3||
(So... after it tells us about ONEness and how the characters are false, and that there is only One actor, God... it tells us that freed from doubt we will realize the One *Lord* alone. The usage of the word Braham is very specific that it's speaking of knowledge of Creator here and not our mind or maan. If we were to take your meaning and apply states of mind and meism to the whole shabad, then what is it that it is saying we are realizing?? Ourselves alone?? But it's using a term understood to mean God / Creator - Bahram. To me that STILL points to us collectively being the Creator!)
ਓਹੁ ਅਬਿਨਾਸੀ ਬਿਨਸਤ ਨਾਹੀ ॥
ओहु अबिनासी बिनसत नाही ॥
Oh abẖināsī binsaṯ nāhī.
He is imperishable; He will never pass away.
(The truth behind ALL of us - the characters - is the same ONE consciousness God, who is imperishible, lives beyond the characters, will never die even when the 'costumes are removed')
ਨਾ ਕੋ ਆਵੈ ਨਾ ਕੋ ਜਾਹੀ ॥
ना को आवै ना को जाही ॥
Nā ko āvai nā ko jāhī.
He does not come, and He does not go.
(Whereas the characters are transient, the actor is not)
ਗੁਰਿ ਪੂਰੈ ਹਉਮੈ ਮਲੁ ਧੋਈ ॥
गुरि पूरै हउमै मलु धोई ॥
Gur pūrai ha▫umai mal ḏẖo▫ī.
The Perfect Guru has washed away the filth of ego.
(Ego is the false sense of identity of these characters, we know it's speaking of the character identities because that's the whole point of the shabad.. these false 'forms' we are associating with.. we remove the Ego, and recognize the actor underneath is really the ONE and is the same ONE for ALL as stated in the previous lines freed from doubt we realize the ONE Lord alone, which we were told earlier was the actor playing ALL the characters (us or even if you want to interpret it as meisms or states of mind - they still lead to the same conclusion) and the word used was a word which was understood to mean Creator Braham, and not a word used to mean `mind` such as maan... so to me - and many scholars - it`s not speaking about mere states of min... its speaking about God. The word haumai, means literally selfishness, and no matter which way you look at it, selfishness is caused by separation of yourself from the ONE, or connectedness from the whole... duality. Because it`s this thinking that we are spearate from each other that creates greed - this I am better than you, I want etc. But we are told in this shabad that it`s the same ONE actor, beneath all of us. It wouldn`t make sense to apply it to a single entity and mere states of mind, as then the whole idea of ONEness doesn`t even make sense! In fact removing meisms and false states of mind, you would still be left with just YOU - no connection to all others... thusactually reinforcing this isea of ME ME ME as something separate! The way to removethe filth of ego or haumai is to realize we are not separate entitiethat is what is false! Duality is false. I can`t conceive how it would be speaking only about us as individuals and our states of mind, without recognizing that we are all ONE. Especially since it uses strong words to describe what remins after we get rid of the ego, the characters... Ik Onkar and Bahram - words used to describe the Creator!)
ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਮੇਰੀ ਪਰਮ ਗਤਿ ਹੋਈ ॥੪॥੧॥
कहु नानक मेरी परम गति होई ॥४॥१॥
Kaho Nānak merī param gaṯ ho▫ī. ||4||1||
Says Nanak, I have obtained the supreme status. ||4||1||
(The supreme status being realization of the above)
