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19-05-2006, 08:59 AM
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A friend questioned me on this topic... "Is is a SIN for a SIKH to marry a NON-SIKH regardless on whether or not the Sikh converts to his/her partners religion."
I hope that we can have an open discussion about this and I can eventually get a right answer to it...
QUESTION:
Q1) Is it a sin for a Sikh to marry a non-sikh even though he stays in Sikhism and his partner remains in her religion?
Q2) Is it a sin for a Sikh to marry a non-sikh and converts to his partner's religion?
Q3) Any other comments. Open discussion.
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19-05-2006, 01:01 PM
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"Q1) Is it a sin for a Sikh to marry a non-sikh even though he stays in Sikhism and his partner remains in her religion? "
i don't think it is wrong but the problem is with the children to whom's religion they will follow.
"Q2) Is it a sin for a Sikh to marry a non-sikh and converts to his partner's religion?"
i think this is wrong because you have given up sikhi for your partner
the answer of your above questions also depend on gender.in india whenever a sikh girl marries hindu boy she also become hindu and children
follow the religion of their father.similarly whenever when a hindu girl marries sikh boy the girl start following sikhism and children become. sikh
so the question for marriage outside religion is always easy for boy and difficuilt for girl.because it is always the girl that give up its religion.
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19-05-2006, 04:16 PM
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Thank you for your reply. But I still wonder if it is a sin. I agree with you when you say about the wrong and right part and that is all I can say...but I wonder if it is a sin.
Yes, a woman will follow the religion of the man she marries. But nowadays there are some who stay the way they are and even give their children two names of both their religion.
But which will the poor child follow? Will he become a rojak?
'Rojak' is a food in Singapore which is a mixture of many fruits, sauce, sugar, salt, chillie etc
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19-05-2006, 04:46 PM
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" But I still wonder if it is a sin. I agree with you when you say about the wrong and right part and that is all I can say...but I wonder if it is a sin."
a very difficuilt question.in my opinion if a person give up its sikhi then it is a sin otherwise it is o.k.
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19-05-2006, 05:09 PM
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WGJKK WGJKF
Surely it matters not?
When two persons marry, surely they are closer than any other two? Therefore they can discuss, share, and talk through whatever, and however? Then if this is true then they will find a path to WaheGuru ji.
I disagree that the child 'automatically' should follow the fathers path, the Mother is equal to the Father in parenthood.
When the two persons discuss honestly and openly their beliefs and passions, the decision they arrive at, will be true. And as a Sikh, surely thats all we can expect.
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19-05-2006, 05:18 PM
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" disagree that the child 'automatically' should follow the fathers path, the Mother is equal to the Father in parenthood."
nobody is saying that child should follow the fathers path.but in reality children always follow the father's path.
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19-05-2006, 07:30 PM
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WGJKK WGJKF
My comment was not a reflection on anything anyone here had said or not, it was simply a statement on reality.
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20-05-2006, 01:23 AM
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If we go by the spirtual definition of a sikh - a sikh will not be able to marry a non-sikh.
It is just like saying that a Gurmukh marries a Manmukh. However this does not mean that Gurmukh hates a Manmukh - rather a Gurmkuh would influence the Manmukh with his company to become a Gurmukh like himself/herself. Only once the other person has become a Gurmukh can they both marry - otherwise a relationship between both of them is not possible.
I would reccomend you to joing www.ggsacademy.com and listen to the Katha of Sukhmani sahib. The issue (not marriage), but of relationship between a Gurmukh and worldly people (Manmukh) is ncely explained - I belive it is the 4th/5th or the 6th lesson
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20-05-2006, 05:47 AM
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Before starting consider sikhism as a way of life rather then a "Religion".
I will put it in this way:
1. When we call somebody a "Sikh" that means he/she has understood sikhism and practising the same.
2. This means his/her thin king and way of life will be greatly (Infact Totally) influced by sikhism.
3. Now he/she will marry only that person who got the similar thinking.
Now in practical life when we call some body a sikh then it purely a relative term :
What I mean is to what extent u follow sikhism is idealy some thing "Discrete" but preactically it is "Analog" for most of the people.
so people follow sikhism to different extents ( Rather to the extent where they feel comfortable  ) But not all of them !
In summary : As per what i know "It is not a SIN in sikhism to marry a non sikh but actually a true sikh will not marry a non sikh."
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20-05-2006, 08:55 AM
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Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fateh
As i have said many times... i am mixed. My Parents did not share the same religion and still dont even today.
As for a Sikh marrying a Sikh being a sin... no one can really answer that question because it is up to Akal Purakh what is a Sin and what is not. We can all come up woth both pros and cons for this topic.
I will start with the Cons, as the are most obvious.1) Because parents have different religions, they may not have the same values which can cause problems when trying to raise children. 2) The children may feel confused as to not upset their parents when " choosing" a religion.
3) Because the partners are follwing complete different paths in life, it may be hard to keep a calm and peaceful household, which in turn does not help the children to grow and learn.
And now the Pros:
1) The children will beable to learn about both religions, making them beable to really "choose" which they feel most connected to. We must not forget that every religion guides us on a different path towards the ONE goal.
2) The children will not grow up in a set religion, so once again they have more choice to follow their heart and soul. Many people have said " I'm Sikh, because my parents are" and not because they fell in love with Guru Ji.
3) The parents will have the opportunity to show their children that every religion is equal, because there are soo many people who tend to think or say things like" My god is better than your god" and other nonsense like that. But with parents of different faiths, chilldren will learn to resepct every religion."
As we can see, there are both good and bad things about this, but as for it being a sin...
Wow..sorry that was pretty long, before i finish i just want to say that this is totally just my opinion from what i have personally experiences through out my life.
Bhull Chuk Maaf Karni
Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fateh
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