Which is more important Simran or Sewa?

harry haller · #1 (**permalink**) 08-Nov-2011, 21:21 PM

Which one is more important from these two in the life of sikh ?

Simran.
To apply GGS into daily life through Sewa

My own opinion, and it is only an opinion, and opinions change with time, is that Simran is for the self, Sewa is for Creation
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Ambarsaria · #2 (**permalink**) 08-Nov-2011, 21:28 PM

Harry Haller veer ji thanks for your post. I will perhaps like to rephrase it in the following order,

Understanding (for Sikhs Gurmat Vichhar)
Actions towards others (including Sewa)
Actions towards self
Other practices to relax and find physical peace for mind and body
1. Simran
2. Alloo Paratha
3. TV
4. Physical Exercise
5. Etc.

Sat Sri Akal.

Tejwant Singh · #3 (**permalink**) 08-Nov-2011, 23:10 PM

Seva is the only Simran. Seva of reading,understanding,accepting and putting Gurbani into practice to make this world a better place is the true Simran.
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Without the above, the Simran is nothing but a parroting of some mumbo jumbo which may make one a great parrot with an ugly plummage, like a quick fix for a drug junkie whose effect is very transitory.

If feeling good for a little while is the only objective, then one can repeat "Lady Gaga" for half an hour daily and feel great for a little while. One has met the end objective by repeating some words whose effect will not last long but it may hang the mental banner within of,"Mission Accomplished" for the sake of Me-ism.

But if doing good through Seva is the means of feeling good, then it is the true Simran in Sikhi which not only lasts longer but eventually becomes our second nature. Hence, second nature of doing Seva makes feeling good for good.

This is the only Simran in Sikhi.

Tejwant Singh

PS: On a side note, my wife's name is Simran, so if I repeat her name twice to beg for her attention, then I am in big trouble and the sofa gives me back cramps.

Scarlet Pimpernel · #4 (**permalink**) 09-Nov-2011, 00:49 AM

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Which one is more important from these two in the life of sikh ?

Simran.
To apply GGS into daily life through Sewa

My own opinion, and it is only an opinion, and opinions change with time, is that Simran is for the self, Sewa is for Creation

Veer Ji your question was which one is more important and then you told us what your opinion of their purpose is,either you are nuttier than a fruit cake or you are the Mad Musketeer!

harry haller · #5 (**permalink**) 09-Nov-2011, 02:06 AM

spji,

My sanity has been questioned many a time, but I am a bit lost as to what you are saying, I have asked a question, and given my opinion to the question, my answer is Sewa, as I think Simran is for one self, could you clarify ?

Scarlet Pimpernel · #6 (**permalink**) 09-Nov-2011, 02:19 AM

Veer Ji not to worry I think I read the question wrong in anycase we are both nuts so what does it matter who is nuttier?
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Visa vee you applying Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji in daily life you should then do some simran too ,because it actually does tell you to do it.
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The question is what is Simran exactly is it contemplating the truth ,reciting the truth ,meditating on truth or living the truth?

harry haller · #7 (**permalink**) 09-Nov-2011, 03:01 AM

spji,

Having spent the last hour reading about Simran from just about every source I can find, my own opinion is that it is not meditating, it is not holding your nose, with a cucumber in each ear as you breathe in and out slowly and recite Satnam, it is not trying to get high whilst repeating the same word over and over again, these to me seem the very Hindu ritualistic practices that Guru Nanakji was trying to get away from,
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Simran is purer and easier than that, it is putting into practice your understanding of Gurbani in a very real and physical way, whilst seeing Creator in Creation, and with no concept of 'payback', but to do it because your heart tells you it is the right thing to do, not for god, or for society, but for the pure universal and eternal truth

what do you think brother?

Scarlet Pimpernel · #8 (**permalink**) 09-Nov-2011, 03:41 AM

Veer ji I guess to me Simran is a state of mind ,I feel Gods name does have power though so reciting it is not without worth,it's just that you have to eat aswell that's why we are told to do kirat ,you and me are a good pair I don't do seva ,you don't do simran if we joined forces we would be something.

harry haller · #9 (**permalink**) 09-Nov-2011, 03:51 AM

dare I say it?

A moment spent in meditation for the self, is a moment lost to Sewa