My Sikh Rehat Meryada

harsimiritkaur · #1 (**permalink**) 04-Feb-2012, 06:10 AM

Guru Granth Sahib is my Sikh Rehat Maryada.
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Ambarsaria · #2 (**permalink**) 04-Feb-2012, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by harsimiritkaur

Guru Granth Sahib is my Sikh Rehat Maryada.

Hasimiritkaur ji thanks for your post.

Can you please describe some of your key findings? There is nothing wrong with what you say except the detail of your understanding will help others to learn, check, etc.

Sat Sri Akal.

harsimiritkaur · #3 (**permalink**) 04-Feb-2012, 11:55 AM

There are over 100 separate so called "Sikh Rehat Maryadas" Baba Ji Sants compete with each other over which one is original.

A committee mixed with religious men, some educated, and some politician type got together to form a sort of code of conduct.

It is up to us to decipher which code or codes are authentic and which ones are man-made due to greedy Brahman type cults disguising Hinduism as Sikhism, brainwashing and imposing rituals and restrictions against Guru Nanak's views, and forging Guru Gobind Singh's name and adding extra-Aad Granth texts as his writings, full of sex and drugs, Guru Gobind Singh idol worshipping the sun and moon like in the "Dev Shiva" hymn sung as the Sikh National Anthem. "Hey Rav, Hey Sas"...Bole Sonihaal..." etc.

Ambarsaria · #4 (**permalink**) 04-Feb-2012, 12:13 PM

Bhain harsimiritkaur ji I do not defend SRM per SGPC but your dismissal in a cursory fashion is little troubling. The following were the people engaged originally and most of these were not as bad as you denegrade these in your post. Perhaps you can state your qualifications in this matter as compared to some of those I am excerpted quoting for you,

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THE CODE OF SIKH CONDUCT AND CONVENTIONS

PREFACE

The All India Sikh Mission Board accorded their acceptance to the Shiromani Gurdwara Prabandhak Committee's Conduct and Conventions Sub-Committee's draft of conduct and conventions by their resolution no.1 of 1st August 1936 and the Shiromani Gurdwara Prabandhak Committee, by their resolution No.14 of 12th October, 1936. The S.G.P.C.'s Advisory Committee on Religious Matters again considered the draft in its meeting on 7th January, 1945 and made recommendations for certain additions to and deletions from it. The undermentioned gentlemen were present at this meeting of the Advisory Committee.
1 Singh Sahib Jathedar Mohan Singh, Jathedar Sri Akal Takhat;
2 Bhai Sahib Bhai Achhar Singh, Head Granthi, Sri Darbar Sahib, Amritsar;
3 Prof. Teja Singh M.A., Khalsa College, Amritsar;
4 Prof. Ganga Singh, Principal, Shahid Sikh Missionary College;
5 Giani Lal Singh, Professor, Sikh Missionary College, Amritsar;
6 Prof. Sher Singh M.Sc., Government College, Ludhiana;
7 Bawa Prem Singh of Hoti;
8 Giani Badal Singh, Incharge, Sikh Mission, Hapur.
The additions and deletions as per the Advisory Committee's recommendations received the
S.G.P.C.'s acceptance by its resolution No. 97 passed at its meeting held on 3rd Feb.,1945.

Giani Thakar Singh, Amritsar; Giani Sher Singh; Bhai Budh Singh; Akali Kaur Singh; Sant Sangat Singh of Kamaliya; Bhai Kahn Singh of Nabha; Sant Gulab Singh of Gholiya; Bhai Labh Singh, Granthi, Sri Harmandar Sahib; Bhai Hazura Singh of Hazur Sahib (or a representative of his); Pandit Basant Singh of Patiala; Bhai Vir Singh of Amritsar; Giani Hira Singh Dard; Bawa Harkishan Singh, Principal, Guru Nanak Khalsa College, Guujranwala; Bhai Trilochan Singh of Sur Singh, Distt. Lahore; Giani Hamir Singh of Amritsar; Pandit Kartar Singh of Dakha, Distt. Ludhiana; the Jathedar of Sri Akal Takhat; the Jathedar of Takht Sri Kesgarh Sahib, the Jathedar of the Takht Sri Patna Sahib; Prof. Ganga Singh; Prof. Jodh Singh; Sant Man Singh of Kankhal; justice Teja Singh; Bhai Randhir Singh; and Prof. Teja Singh (who was to be the convenor of the sub-committee).
The meetings of this sub-committee were held on Oct. 4 and 5, 1931, Jan. 3,1932, and Jan.
31,1932 at the Akal Takht. The following members kept attending these meetings and participating in the deliberations:
Akali Kaur Singh; Giani Sher Singh; Sant Man Singh of Nirmala sect; Prof. Ganga Singh;
the Jathedar of the Akal Takht; the Jathedar of Takht Sri Kesgarh Sahib; Giani Hira Singh Dard; Bhai Labh Singh Granthi; Giani Thakar Singh; Giani Hamir Singh; Bawa Harkishan Singh, M.A.; Justice Teja Singh; Bhai Trilochan Singh; and the undersigned, the convenor.
Apart from these, the following gentlemen, attended occasionally:
S. Dharam Anant Singh, Principal, Sikh Missionary College; S. Bhag Singh, Advocate, Gurdaspur; S. Wassawa Singh, Secretary, S.G.P.C.; S. Tara Singh (President, Shiromani Akali Dal); among others.

The draft is submitted to the Shiromani Gurdwara Prabhandhak Committee. We hope you will get this draft printed and published for ascertaining the general Panthic opinion as to it and after receiving various opinions, present it in the S.G.P.C.'s general meeting for final acceptance.
After this, the draft was once again deliberated upon on 8th May, 1932 at the behest of
S.G.P.C.
The following gentlemen were present at the meeting on 8th May:

Justice Teja Singh; Sant Teja Singh, Granthi, Sri Nankan Sahib, Giani Gurmukh Singh Musafar; Giani Nahar Singh; S.Wassawa Singh, Secretary S.G.P.C.; Bhai Kartar Singh Jhabbar; S.Waryam Singh Garmula (Member Incharge,Nankana Sahib,); Bhai Partap Singh, book seller; S.Lal Singh (S.G.P.C.) ; Bhai Partap Singh, book seller; S. Lal Singh (S.G.P.C); Jathedar Mohan Singh (Sri Akal Takht);et. al.
Later, on the insistence of several gentlemen, another meeting of the conduct and convention Sub-Committee was held on 26th September 1932 to consider the draft once again. The following members attended that meeting :

Giani Sher Singh; Giani Thakar Singh; Giani Hamir Singh; Bhai Labh Singh, Granthi, Sri Darbar Sahi; Giani Gurmukh Singh Musafar; Bhai Joginder Singh (Mit-Jathedar Takht Sri Kesgarh Sahib); Justice Teja Singh; Giani Nahar Singh; and the undersigned, the
convenor. Apart from these, Sant Teja Singh M.A. also participated in the deliberations.

By the way the use of the word Giani was not simply a meaningless addition to some of the names. Giani was an educational level study of Sikh religion, Gurbani and Punjabi as in High School for science these days.

There is absolutely no question in my mind that SRM should be treated as a live Guiding document and is overdue for serious dissection and improvement.

Sat Sri Akal.

harsimiritkaur · #5 (**permalink**) 04-Feb-2012, 14:11 PM

If this is Rehat Maryada, then why do all the other 99 Rehat Maryadas forbid consumption of jhatka meat? Which Rehat Maryada is correct?

Why are many of the Sikh Religious leaders politicians dressed in amritdhari clothes promoting Brahmanwat?

Why do they allow a coconut during akhand paath?

Why do they have kirtan and akhand paath in the same room?

Why do they have 50 akhand paaths in one room at the same time like an akhand paath zoo. I see it even in Harmandar Sahib.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-rehat-maryada/37986-my-sikh-rehat-meryada.html

Why do they still forbid women from kirtan in Harmandar Sahib, yet Ahluwaliah's wife or daughter use to do kirtan there?
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37986

Why do they degrade women like ignorant pindus?
Why the pakandi dera do not allow women to read akhand paath, yet the paathis wear Muslmaan burka?

Where is Sikhism today? I don't want it to look like a stupid religion to outsiders.

lionprinceuk · #6 (**permalink**) 05-Feb-2012, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by harsimiritkaur

If this is Rehat Maryada, then why do all the other 99 Rehat Maryadas forbid consumption of jhatka meat? Which Rehat Maryada is correct?

actually dal panth practises jhatka meat and have their own puraatan maryada

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #7 (**permalink**) 05-Feb-2012, 05:22 AM

Actually we are "blaming" the wrong thing...barking up the wrong tree...
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Its NOT the SRM that forces some Amrtisar ke Thugghs to dress up like Amrtidharees and commit fraud...cheat and lie...or do all those things Harsimrat has listed in her mail...
What can the SRM do to stop a baba Ji mahapurahs type of thuggh to have coconuts and red thaggeh tied to water pots...alas what can the SRM do to blow out shudh ghee jyots that pollute Gurdwaras ....
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37986

In fact I could ask...DONT ALL THESE WRONGS HAPPEN inside GURDWARAS in the PRESENCE of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji ??? Why doesnt the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji stop these wrongs ??

The Real truthful answer is provided in GURBANI by the GURU...Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji..."POORA STGUR KIA KAREH ji sikhaan mehn CHOOK ".....Its the SIKHS who are at FAULT 100%...Not the GURU, Not Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji not SRM....NO JIOS..its US. Blame OURSELVES.

lionprinceuk · #8 (**permalink**) 13-Feb-2012, 17:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Gyani Jarnail Singh

Actually we are "blaming" the wrong thing...barking up the wrong tree...

Its NOT the SRM that forces some Amrtisar ke Thugghs to dress up like Amrtidharees and commit fraud...cheat and lie...or do all those things Harsimrat has listed in her mail...
What can the SRM do to stop a baba Ji mahapurahs type of thuggh to have coconuts and red thaggeh tied to water pots...alas what can the SRM do to blow out shudh ghee jyots that pollute Gurdwaras ....

In fact I could ask...DONT ALL THESE WRONGS HAPPEN inside GURDWARAS in the PRESENCE of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji ??? Why doesnt the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji stop these wrongs ??

The Real truthful answer is provided in GURBANI by the GURU...Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji..."POORA STGUR KIA KAREH ji sikhaan mehn CHOOK ".....Its the SIKHS who are at FAULT 100%...Not the GURU, Not Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji not SRM....NO JIOS..its US. Blame OURSELVES.

ghee and coconuts, explain further?

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Originally Posted by Ambarsaria

Bhain harsimiritkaur ji I do not defend SRM per SGPC but your dismissal in a cursory fashion is little troubling. The following were the people engaged originally and most of these were not as bad as you denegrade these in your post. Perhaps you can state your qualifications in this matter as compared to some of those I am excerpted quoting for you,

[/FONT]By the way the use of the word Giani was not simply a meaningless addition to some of the names. Giani was an educational level study of Sikh religion, Gurbani and Punjabi as in High School for science these days.

There is absolutely no question in my mind that SRM should be treated as a live Guiding document and is overdue for serious dissection and improvement.

Sat Sri Akal.

Again, I cannot see any nihangs in the document, therefore the Khalsa was seriously misrespresented for SRM. A maryada without khalsa input, what's the point, we might as well become fancy dress singhs?

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #9 (**permalink**) 13-Feb-2012, 18:13 PM

THE Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji MENTIONS KESH DASTAAR ETC FOR A REASON..ITS REQUIRED OF A SIKH... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=zA4_dxhTylI#!