Are Nihangs: A Legacy to Behold and a core to Build from?

Pritam Singh Nihang · #10 (**permalink**) 12-Feb-2012, 07:09 AM

there a r two holy scriptures more from the sikhs...
we have them before with Guru Granth Sahib Ji in the Gurdwaras. Today just the Nihangs use them in Gurdwaras, the Sri Dasam Granth and the Sri Sarbloh Granth. i found a lot of sources about the Dasam Granth, but nothing about Sarbloh Granth...
The only Thing i no that The Sarbloh Grant was used just by Nihangs, thats why maybe i didnt found sources about it.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/controversies/38029-are-nihangs-legacy-behold-core-build.html
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so the question is did anyone, have informations about the Sarbloh Granth from the Nihangs??? Sources,Weblinks ect?...
i have heard that the Sarbloh Granth was written by Guru Gobind Singh Ji... hope some one about it
Satsriakal

Luckysingh · #11 (**permalink**) 12-Feb-2012, 15:28 PM

It would be great if nihangs could rejuvenate sikhism.
They are the ultimate warriors that made the ultimate army.

When I hear the word Nihang, the first things that come to mind is the complete blue bana with big dumalla, sword and spear, battlefield,shastar vidiya, Anandpur,story of Bachittar Singh battling the charging elephant.
I know that alot of the others have the bhang coming to mind first. It's sad, as these bhang practices apparently crept in slowly due to strong hindu influences that have infiltrated the temples in the last couple of hundred years.
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Sadly, the shastars are of less use in this day and age. Using firearms etc.. is what would be expected but hand combat training would still be a strong element in devoloping skills.
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I remember that back in UK there was a strong movement that started with youths mainly calling themselves nihangs. Many held great respect and pride for this group, as they had fantastic combat skills, knew what to do with spears and swords, dressed in the full bana .
But they did lack the spirituality of the historics. They were kind of wannabe nihangs with the intentions of rebuilding sikhism from the core.
Slowly, they faded from the scene.

I think there is still alot of true widespread spirit that was among the historic heretics.
If this could be united and cultivated, new horizons would open.

Waheguru
Luckysingh

Ambarsaria · #12 (**permalink**) 12-Feb-2012, 23:30 PM

Luckysingh ji wonderful post. Thank you.

Sat Sri Akal.

Luckysingh · #13 (**permalink**) 14-Feb-2012, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ambarsaria

Luckysingh ji wonderful post. Thank you.

Sat Sri Akal.

Gurfateh

I waited a while to see if others would contribute to this post.

I'm not sure if the awareness is not there, as to me it is quite a sensitive but powerful issue..

Perhaps it might be a good idea to try and post some material that can help educate all of us the importance and great spiritual charachters of the Nihangs.
'Khalsa mera roop hai khaas'- there is no better example that I can think of besides the Nihangs that abide by this quote by Guru Gobind Singh Ji

'jo jo prem khailan ka chaou, sir thar thallee gallee mere aiao'-when taking amrit from the panj pyare, this comes to my mind.
You virtually must be prepared to give your head as the ceremony proceeds..... How many would actually do that in reality????
There is no better example than the original Nihangs.

This is my perception i'm sorry if I offend but I feel that when you look and consider the mentality and true spirit of the Nihangs.... It puts the rest of the sikh kaumh to shame...(i'm sorry if i offended, but I mean what I say)

We could ALL learn a great deal from these forefathers and better the whole Sikh kaaumh.

Waheguru
LuckySingh

Luckysingh · #14 (**permalink**) 14-Feb-2012, 07:15 AM

Let me just continue from the above post.

Ambersaria ji,

I'm sorry that I didn't make it clear but I was trying to suggest that we could get some links or highlight pastes from other sources etc to help let us all get a clearer uniform understanding and feel for the Nihangs.
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This way we could all be on the same wavelenghth in terms of awareness of this issue.

I'm not being lazy, It's just that I'm new and still climatising to the spn format.
You have posted some useful links along with other members that have been great for knowledge expansion.

I'm still trying to learn and shovel along with trying to identify the better researched.

Thank-you

LuckySingh

Ambarsaria · #15 (**permalink**) 14-Feb-2012, 07:34 AM

Luckysingh Veer no worries or rush.

I believe "nihanghsingh dot org" has some good material that can be brought in with due reference. Including the names and background of the six Nihang Batallions.

For example the following extracted from the mentioned site,

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‘The Nihangs are today divided into several groups or Dals each with its own cantonment and a headman, but are loosely organised into two Dals – Budha Dal and Tarna Dal, names initially given to the two sections into which the Khalsa army was divided into 1733 CE.’ (Surjit Singh Gandhi, History of the Sikh Guru’s Retold, page 1003)

Key DALs,

Shiromani Panth Akali Budha Dal, Panjva Takht
Tarna Dal Khyale Wale
Baba Bidhi Chand Dal
Tarna Dal Baba Bakala
Tarna Dal Guru Nanak Dal
Tarna Dal Harienwela Dal

The Budha Dal was supreme in terms of authority in exercising decision making within the Khalsa. It was also responsible for managing the affairs of Sikh shrines, the Khalsa treasury and political matters. Therefore, the leader of Budha Dal was traditionally considered the head of the entire Sikh community, par with the role Baba Binod Singh was bestowed by Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji as the supreme commander of the Khalsa Panth. We see this pattern continuing into the 1800s with the unchallenged authority of Akali Phula Singh and his Nihang warriors. Even in the twentieth Century Baba Teja Singh and Baba Sahib Singh Kaladhari, both Jathedars of Budha Dal, served with their band of warriors at the Akaal Takht from where Sikh leadership has traditionally been exercised. The Nihang Singhs and other Sikh groups who prescribe to more traditional tenants of the Sikh faith still recognise the supreme authority of Budha Dal and its leader. At major festival it is custom for the of Budha Dal to lead the procession of the Khalsa. The leaders of various battalions accompanied by their respective battle standards then traditionally congregate around the leader of Budha Dal recognising his position of Commander in Chief of the Khalsa.

Within each Dalpanth various posts of responsibility are given. The various posts which need to be filled include, but are not limited to:

Jathedar – supreme leader of the battalion who often stays stationary.
Mit Jathedar – second in charge, often leads the dalpanth.
Mukhtiare-aam – can be thought of like Prime Minister (serves only the Budha Dal)
Likhari – scribe
Khajanchi – treasurer
Head Granthi – responsible for the readers of scriptures who are referred to as a pathi.
Raagi – musicians who perform Asa Di Var on mornings and Sodar Chounkee in evening
Kathavachik – gives discourse on religious sermons from the scriptures
Nagarchi – beats the battle drum
Nishanchi – flag bearers
Garvaee – personal assistant to a senior or elderly Nihang Singh.
Chatkaee – responsible for chatka
Darji – responsible for making clothes
Langeri – in charge of the kitchen
Raghraee – prepares Sukhnidhan at least twice a day – usually 12 am and 12pm
Dhoppea – Twice a day they the light incense and take it round the entire encampment

Very wonderful and organized structure with needs both functional and spiritual addressed.

Please comment and add as how we can learn or see Sikhism as one stream with different parts in the Mosaic.

Sat Sri Akal.

Luckysingh · #16 (**permalink**) 14-Feb-2012, 08:12 AM

Thanks, this Nihangsingh.org site looks great and informative.
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It is the sort of material I was hoping and searching for.

I will get into it and start learning more

Thanks once again

Luckysingh

Scarlet Pimpernel · #17 (**permalink**) 15-Feb-2012, 06:19 AM

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The following are people beyond reproach

Veer Ji Only a Saint is beyond reproach,the rest of mankind has only approach and that must be of spiritual weapons ,above all else.

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #18 (**permalink**) 15-Feb-2012, 12:53 PM

Here is a write up on whats known as saints today..aka brahmgyanis..aka sri 108 ji..aka sahib sri singh sahib ji and what not...THEY are MILES away from what Gurbani says they should be...

http://rozanaspokesman.com/fullpage....ew=15&pview=13
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An example: Guru nanak ji was a Brahmgyani..He ahd knowledge of the Brahm..thats how he told us about the patala patal lakh agas..worlds and planets and suns and stars...in stark contrast to established beliefs of the day.... so a Modern day BRAHMGYNAI hsould eb able to easily tell us if theres water on mars..a relatively EASY question since Mars is so near to us and a Brahmgyani ahs knowledge of brahm....NASA can save BILLIONS and TRILLIONS of USD being spent..and the worlds poor cna be fed and clothed and housed with the money saved..if that isnt a SACHA SAUDA ??? then what is ?? Whats the sort of Brahmgyan these fakes are having..which is NOT available for free in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji nayway ??