I have been brought up as a devout sikh(No meat, alcohol and so forth) for 19 years .For the past 2-3 year I have been contemplating leaving not just sikhism but the entire idea of religion & god(I have about 2% belief that god really exists) Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/29805-leaving-sikhism.html
.This has been brought about by things such as living in a multicultural london and witnessing first hand the absurdity of religion, understanding that when somebody chooses a relgion they automatically condem the rest of mankind that a life in the service of a god that may not exist is a one and only wasted life and many more thoughts similar to these. And no these thoughts didn't come from brain washing () or any one human I've come into contact with but rather throught generalknowledge reasoning and more importantly my studies in both psychology and philosophy.I guess what I'm looking for is an intelligent and informed take on my current situation which my parents, close family, friends and even my local gurdwara could not provide to help me make this life changing decision. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29805
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At the risk of infuriating you, yours is a fairly typical reaction for a person your age. It is normal to question and try out different ideas. I remember when I was a young woman, after reading several of Ayn Rand's books, I decided to be a secret atheist. (It would have been difficult to do it openly, as I was in a devout Sikh household.) I tried for a while and then gave it up.
More seriously, I tried again in the years after 1984. I purposely broke almost all my Khalsa vows and broke with the Sikh community for 20 years. I tried very hard to believe in all sorts of things - and in nothing. It didn't work. After this time, I returned home to Sikhi, a location that has - for me - all the answers I was looking for. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29805
Each of us has our own story. I wish you Godspeed or whatever you prefer for your journey. If "truthful living" means to you that you must leave us for a time, you must do what you must do. Just remember that you have a home and we will be waiting to welcome you back.
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Thanks for your input harjinder (my first reply), correct me if I'm wrong but I think your journey, as it were, was one to find your path in life or find confidene in your pre choosen path . I have heard of this before however my problem arose from try to understand why I am where I was and the most effective way to spend every breath I take on this earth. I would Respectfully like to pose two questions to you and anyone reading this 1.Your comment about having a home, Do you think that your returning to sikhism was caused by your need for emotional solace? 2.(I thought this to myself recently)Isn't it better to live like there is no god, die and learn that there was such a thing rather the live like there is a god die and nothing happens? (I think I'll copyright that! )
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I lived for 20 years like there was no supreme being (I dislike the term "god" personally), jumping from one thing to the next. Then I died two times in one night (a major stroke.) I had a rather dramatic NDE (near death experience), which was "the proof of all [I] had never dared to believe." I hesitate to talk to much about this because I don't want to be "believed." It might have been the artifact of a dying brain starved for oxygen. But it was real to me and changed EVERYTHING. Now I am able to live in chardi kala, absolutely certain that everything really is the Hukam of Vaheguru.
WEhen I returned, to be truthful, I had no idea how I would be treated. I was treated with love and consideration, but even if I had been snubbed, I think it would have made no difference. To again experience the Darshan of Guru ji, to be in its presence was enough. Now I have a deeper and fuller happiness than I would ever have thought possible. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29805 Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29805
As Neil Diamond memorably sang, "Being lost is worth the coming home."
BTW, I'm Harinder. Harjinder was my Dad.
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Well I am happy for you, I just hope your not living in dellusion because of a traumatic and subconscious fear of not experiencing enough what you define as love, myself personally I was a serious asmathic for the first 15 years of my life and faced death alot, never got any NDE's hmmm....wonder why
LOL, I know why. The time wasn't right for you. It all unfolds as it needs to. I assure you that I have experienced my full share of love and hate, and trauma and whatever is the opposite of trauma. You are just setting out on this remarkable journey. You will discover many wonderful and horrible things along the way. You will learn a great deal - or you won't. Who knows? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29805 Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29805
If my life now is delusion, it is a happy and useful delusion, as I now devote my life to whatever sewa I am able to perform. I think the world is a little bit better because of this life of mine, whatever it is.
Think on this a bit: You will change the world. Everybody does. The question is: how much and in what way?
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Not at all. There are many atheists and nontheists doing a lot of good in this world. I am just saying that my life, delusionary or not, is accomplishing something positive. And I am very happy doing it. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29805
My life has not been easy (although it started out that way) or without tragedy and hardship. By the kirpaa of Vaheguru (or possibly my own efforts + an NDE) I am working past all that.
I wouldn't presume to tell you what is right for you; you have to find your own "truthful living." That is a big challenge, as you first have to discover what that means to you. And it can - and usually does - change over time. My best wishes on your journey.
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Well I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your input, It was quite educating maybe I won't find any answers in other but myself thank you BTW to you have any adove on how to deal with parents if I decide not to live a sikh life?
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) or any one human I've come into contact with but rather throught generalknowledge reasoning and more importantly my studies in both psychology and philosophy.I guess what I'm looking for is an intelligent and informed take on my current situation which my parents, close family, friends and even my local gurdwara could not provide to help me make this life changing decision.
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), correct me if I'm wrong but I think your journey, as it were, was one to find your path in life or find confidene in your pre choosen path . I have heard of this before however my problem arose from try to understand why I am where I was and the most effective way to spend every breath I take on this earth. I would Respectfully like to pose two questions to you and anyone reading this 1.Your comment about having a home, Do you think that your returning to sikhism was caused by your need for emotional solace? 2.(I thought this to myself recently)Isn't it better to live like there is no god, die and learn that there was such a thing rather the live like there is a god die and nothing happens? (I think I'll copyright that! 
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