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Hi People,

I had an interesting conversation a while ago in the Gurudwara at a Langaar where a devout Sikh friend I know said that when we have food before Langaar and do Ardas over it we are purifying it, just like Muslim's do Halal. I was taken a back and argued that we given thanks to God rather than purify, but thinking about it and the behaviour of our people maybe he was right? What do you think?
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Re: Ardas Over Food = Purification Like Halal?

Randip ji I have never heard of this before. This is like saying "Grace" in a Christian home -- thanksgiving for the blessing of food and remembrance (even simran) of the divine presence even when we partake.
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Re: Ardas Over Food = Purification Like Halal?

Dear Randip Ji,

I read somewhere, I cannot put my finger on it and some times when I remember I recite;

ਜਿਹ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ਛਤੀਹ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਖਾਹਿ ॥ ਤਿਸੁ ਠਾਕੁਰ ਕਉ ਰਖੁ ਮਨ ਮਾਹਿ ॥
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Jih parsāḏ cẖẖaṯīh amriṯ kẖāhi. Ŧis ṯẖākur ka▫o rakẖ man māhi.
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By Akal Purkh’s Grace, you eat many delicacies; enshrine that Master God within your mind.-----Guru Arjan, Raag Gauri Sukhmani # 5, AGGS, Page, 269-14

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Re: Ardas Over Food = Purification Like Halal?

I feel it is not done to purify "langar food" but to offer thanks to the ultimate provider "The Creator", Gurbani supports it, as quote given by VSGREWAL Ji, ardas is to keep Him in mind.This is the way I look at it.
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Re: Ardas Over Food = Purification Like Halal?

The gurdwara service in Espanola New Mexico at Ashram Guru Ram Das just ended -- an Internet transmission. I watched for the blessing of the food. It is exactly what we have concluded here -- gratitude and a remembrance of His blessings. There was no mention of purification as in Alah Akbar!! or anything like that.
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Re: Ardas Over Food = Purification Like Halal?

I know that what we do is for blessings, but it is the behaviour of our people, it is as if the food has been purified. That is what I am trying to get at.
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Re: Ardas Over Food = Purification Like Halal?

Randip ji

Well that is the same thinking that says that we should do seva to cleanse our karma. I don't myself know where it comes from.
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Re: Ardas Over Food = Purification Like Halal?

Dear All,

Purification of the food by Ardas is spiritual ignorance IMHO. It is the gratitude which one has to offer for the food provided to Akal Purkh.

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I know that what we do is for blessings, but it is the behaviour of our people, it is as if the food has been purified. That is what I am trying to get at.
Randip Ji..

I get what you are trying to say...like how some people rush to pick up little droplets of Karrah parshad they/or others have accidentally dropped on the floor..."holy food"...???and How they look at one who ignores the little pieces...."Doesnt he realise he is stepping on Holy Food" ?? types ??
Well these are the same types who drink the water that sangat wash their feet in...at the entrances of Gurdwaras...i also saw a few squeezing the rags used to clean the floors and drinking that "juice" In Rakab Ganj Gurdawra delhi among these were Obvious HINDUS and MUSLIMS....I talked to one or two..they said..Yes we come here daily and drink this..it is good for our business..brings us luck..and keeps us healthy..( thery are shopkeepers nearby )
At least the Karah parshad had ardass read and Kirpan Bhet....no such ardass was said over the feet washing water/and floor mopped "juice"...so I dont think its anything to do with ardass.
I beleive these are literal beleivers of..Saadh Sangat dee DHUR...dust of the feet of saints is "good for you"..etc etc. imho..all types make up thsi world...
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