Question for Kala Afghana Supporters

what banis do you recite each day?
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do you do ardaas?

do you do jaap sahib? chaupai sahib? tav prassad sawyai? rehras sahib?

when you took amrit, what did your panj piyare instruct you to recite daily and do you feel it necessary to follow their advice?

sorry if this is offensive, but i'm new to this so i don't understand how one does the nitnem banis without accepting the words of dasam patshah as gurbani.
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Soem of them skip over the ones by Guru Gobind Singh ji. Just what I hear.

right. that leave, what... japji sahib and sohila? and parts of rehras sahib?

the sikh rehet maryada specifies panj banis we're supposed to recite daily. if you "sikp over" the ones by the tenth master, that leaves you with two and a half, and you can't recite ardas either.

so basically you have to break rehat in order to follow kala afghana. which i guess is fine, because he's excommunicated anyway.

i just wanted to hear it from the keyboard of someone who does this. i want to understand how they justify it.

Technically though, i think you could do Anand Sahib (by the 3rd Guru), Jap ji Sahib and Jaap Sahib - leaving out any part they feel is to much like "hindu non-sense", for example - stanzas in praise of Durga as the supreme God as found in Dasam Granth.

I wonder how they also defend the view that since God is in everyone (assuming they follow what is in Jap-ji,a s God as present in everyone...), how they can think "hindu doctrine" is present in Dasam Granth....

they don't do Jaap sahib, because it's 100% written by Guru Gobind Singh ji... and who are we to choose which parts of gurbani are to be "left out" anyway? it takes a lot of ego for someone to think they know better than Guru sahib what we should be reciting in our daily prayers...
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i find the whole thing bizarre...

I don't know what purpose they would have in praying at all, since Kala Afghana doesn't believe in the soul, heaven, hell, reincarnation, jams, or afterlife. So it makes sense if they don't believe in half the nitenam banis. According to KA's stated beliefs, Guru is just a man, and therefore capable of making mistakes. When stating he doesn't believe in what is written even in Gurbani of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, one has to wonder what kind of religion it is. And of course, why take amrit, as KA received twice, when you do not believe in amrit, except as public show to win acceptance among Sikhs, like the intelligence officer he is.

Jasleen Kaur is whole Dasam Granth is written by Tenth master.I have read it and found internal evidence that it is composed by tenth master.
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These people are not sikhs.They are ex communists who have joined sikhism.

His books are on the lines of Bhag singh Ambala's book Dasam Granth nirnay and also on the lines of "Hum Hindu Hain" written by Late Rajju Bhaiya who ws chief of RSS.
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In all probabilt books are written in Hathras,UP by RSS and intelligence people.Kala afghana name is used.

i have to disagree with your last statement. in my limited experience, those who become Sikhs by choice are usually more willing to follow Guru sahib. otherwise, why convert in the first place?

i would rephrase it as, "they are ex-sikhs who became communists".