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| | | | | | Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism ? Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism and become a Sikh ? Or is Sikhism only for one race or skln color ? Can a White Person or a Black Person or a Chinese Person convert and become a Sikh ? Is Sikhism a universal religion for all of humanity or humans ?
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14-Dec-2011, 10:02 AM
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| | | | | Re: Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism ? Mikejohnson2006 ji welcome to spn and your first post.
1. Yes anyone can become Sikh
2. No Sikhism is not race or skin color or any other ways a differentiator Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/general-discussion/37736-can-person-any-race-skin-color.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37736
3. Yes White, Black, Chinese and all others too
4. Yes it is for all humanity
Answers in order of your post.
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14-Dec-2011, 15:11 PM
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| | | | | Re: Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism ? MikeJohnsonji, Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37736
It all depends on which Sikhism you are talking about, there is a pure strain of Sikhi which is open to anyone, of any colour, and as Ambarariaji stated above, applies fully, Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37736
However there is another Sikhi which is not so open, it is heavy in ritual, tradition, it follows the caste system, it is corrupt, sexist, and you may have to develop a taste for Bacardi or Scotch and learn how to dance like a drugged up bear, you may find yourself excluded from embracing this wonderful branch of Sikhi, with its required chanting of the holy word 'Izzat' (respect), and the constant repeating of the holy phrase 'log kya kehan ghai' (what will people say), as the entry requirements are quite limited. You may have to be content with just the rather boring pure strain........sorry. | | The following members appreciate harry haller Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism ? Sikhi requires internal conversion of a person irrespective of one's hue,creed or faith so one can become a Sikh. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37736
What do I mean by internal conversion?
It means to be a pragmatist, no mechanical rituals to please some deity, accepting all humankind as one.
Sikhi gives the follower the tools to breed goodness within which can be shared with all.
For a Sikh, one can be a good Christian, a good Jew, a Muslim, Buddhist, Jaini etc etc provided they do not claim any monopoly on some God which is a fallacy because we all know there is only ONE SOURCE of ALL there IS. And if they spread the goodness they have attained through their religions to all without trying to convert them. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37736
Conversion is prohibited in Sikhi. Love sprouts from the within.
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| | | | | Re: Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism ? Harry Hall you wrote:
However there is another Sikhi which is not so open, it is heavy in ritual, tradition, it follows the caste system, it is corrupt, sexist, and you may have to develop a taste for Bacardi or Scotch and learn how to dance like a drugged up bear, you may find yourself excluded from embracing this wonderful branch of Sikhi, with its required chanting of the holy word 'Izzat' (respect), and the constant repeating of the holy phrase 'log kya kehan ghai' (what will people say), as the entry requirements are quite limited. You may have to be content with just the rather boring pure strain........sorry. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37736
I think you are describing the culture which is attached to the majority of Sikh's from Punjab, and especially to these Sikhs who have migrated to the UK. Most who are not from this background seem to follow and practice sikhi very well! | | The following members appreciate OneD10s Ji for the above message. | | 
15-Dec-2011, 11:20 AM
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| | | | | Re: Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism ? I agree with D1OS, Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37736
Harry Ji,
With all due respect, that description of vehmently non-Sikh things may cause confusion to a newcomer... even if they are said in sarcasm. | | The following members appreciate Navdeep88 Ji for the above message. | | 
15-Dec-2011, 15:22 PM
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| | | | | Re: Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism ? Gurfatehji
In our quest for the search for Sacha Padshah, I feel it is important to define what is good, and what is bad.
I feel it is important for a newcomer to be aware of all the things that can be presented under the Sikhi banner, and to be aware of what is social Sikhi and what is Bani.
I do agree with your post, I apologise for my sarcastic nature, I should have been more succulent, or even succint. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37736 "I think you are describing the culture which is attached to the majority of Sikh's from Punjab, and especially to these Sikhs who have migrated to the UK. Most who are not from this background seem to follow and practice sikhi very well!" D10sji,
Unless you are like Maiji, or Ishnaji, the probability is that you are descended from those Sikhs from Punjab, and still have ties there, so for a lot of us this culture cannot be shaken off. Sometimes I envy those that practice Sikhi in its purest form, without the tainting of tradition and culture Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37736 | | The following member appreciates harry haller Ji for the above message. | | 
15-Dec-2011, 16:25 PM
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| | | | | Re: Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism ? Quote:
Originally Posted by harry haller Gurfatehji
Unless you are like Maiji, or Ishnaji, the probability is that you are descended from those Sikhs from Punjab, and still have ties there, so for a lot of us this culture cannot be shaken off. Sometimes I envy those that practice Sikhi in its purest form, without the tainting of tradition and culture
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Just to clarify, my Dad was Punjabi and as a child I spent all my summers sweltering in India.
My big advantage is that my Dad rejected most of that silly Punjabi stuff and made a conscious effort to give me a classical Western education. Lucky me! I got the good stuff of both cultures and missed most of the bad stuff, especially the bad stuff in Punjabi culture. | | The following members appreciate Mai Harinder Kaur Ji for the above message. | | 
15-Dec-2011, 16:37 PM
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| | | | | Re: Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism ? Maiji,
Many thanks for clarification, I cannot help but visualise people, and in my minds eye when you have talked about him, I always imagined him looking like cuddly Guru Ka Singh ala you tube, much kudos to him for having the courage to use his wisdom to take a stand against the 'bad stuff' in Punjabi culture. | | The following member appreciates harry haller Ji for the above message. | | 
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