Sign Up |  Live StatsLive Stats    Articles 35,343| Comments 159,760| Members 17,815, Newest Diva sehgal| Online 236
Home Contact
 (Forgotten?): 
    Sikhism

   
                                                                     Your Banner Here!    

Sikh Philosophy Network » Sikh Philosophy Network » Hard Talk » General Discussion » Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism ?

Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism ?

Our Donation Goal : Why Donate? : Donate Today! : Donate Anonymously (ਗੁਪਤ) : Our Family of Supporters
Goal this month: 400 USD, Received: 35 USD (9%)
Please Donate...
Related Topics...
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How Do I Convert to Sikhism? Gregappin Sikh Youth 4 22-Jul-2011 11:07 AM
How Do I Convert to Sikhism? guest New to Sikhism 2 12-Mar-2010 12:49 PM
Caste, Race, Ethnicity and Sikhism Neutral Singh Hard Talk 30 22-May-2009 19:10 PM
Can One Convert to Sikhism? Wanderer2369 Hard Talk 64 14-Nov-2008 06:49 AM


Tags
color, convert, person, race, sikhism, skin
Reply Post New Topic In This Forum Stay Connected to Sikhism, Click Here to Register Now!
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 14-Dec-2011, 09:54 AM
mikejohnson2006's Avatar mikejohnson2006 mikejohnson2006 is offline
 
Enrolled: Dec 14th, 2011
Age: 24
Posts: 3
mikejohnson2006 is an unknown quantity at this point
   
Adherent: Christianity
Liked 7 Times in 2 Posts
   
Question Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism ?

  Donate Today!   Email to Friend  Tell a Friend   Show Printable Version  Print   Contact sikhphilosophy.net Administraion for any Suggestions, Ideas, Feedback.  Feedback  

Register to Remove Advertisements
Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism and become a Sikh ? Or is Sikhism only for one race or skln color ? Can a White Person or a Black Person or a Chinese Person convert and become a Sikh ? Is Sikhism a universal religion for all of humanity or humans ?

Sikhism Sikhism



 
Do share your immediate thoughts or reactions on this issue? We value your views! Login Now! or Sign Up Today! to share your views with us.. Gurfateh!
Reply With Quote
The following members appreciate mikejohnson2006 Ji for the above message.
Sponsored Links
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 14-Dec-2011, 10:02 AM
Ambarsaria's Avatar Ambarsaria Ambarsaria is offline
ੴ / Ik▫oaʼnkār
 
Enrolled: Dec 21st, 2010
Posts: 2,718
Ambarsaria is just really nice
Ambarsaria is just really niceAmbarsaria is just really nice
   
Adherent: Sikhi
Liked 3,953 Times in 1,896 Posts
    Nationality: Canada
Re: Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism ?

Mikejohnson2006 ji welcome to spn and your first post.

1. Yes anyone can become Sikh
2. No Sikhism is not race or skin color or any other ways a differentiator
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/general-discussion/37736-can-person-any-race-skin-color.html
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37736
3. Yes White, Black, Chinese and all others too
4. Yes it is for all humanity

Answers in order of your post.

Welcome again.

Sat Sri Akal.
Reply With Quote
The following members appreciate Ambarsaria Ji for the above message.
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 14-Dec-2011, 15:11 PM
harry haller's Avatar harry haller harry haller is offline
 
Enrolled: Jan 31st, 2011
Location: UK
Age: 43
Posts: 1,521
harry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the rough
   
Adherent: Sikh
Blog Entries: 91
Liked 2,152 Times in 982 Posts
    Nationality: United Kingdom
Re: Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism ?

MikeJohnsonji,
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37736

It all depends on which Sikhism you are talking about, there is a pure strain of Sikhi which is open to anyone, of any colour, and as Ambarariaji stated above, applies fully,
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37736

However there is another Sikhi which is not so open, it is heavy in ritual, tradition, it follows the caste system, it is corrupt, sexist, and you may have to develop a taste for Bacardi or Scotch and learn how to dance like a drugged up bear, you may find yourself excluded from embracing this wonderful branch of Sikhi, with its required chanting of the holy word 'Izzat' (respect), and the constant repeating of the holy phrase 'log kya kehan ghai' (what will people say), as the entry requirements are quite limited. You may have to be content with just the rather boring pure strain........sorry.
Reply With Quote
The following members appreciate harry haller Ji for the above message.
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 14-Dec-2011, 22:39 PM
Tejwant Singh's Avatar Tejwant Singh Tejwant Singh is offline
 
Enrolled: Jun 30th, 2004
Location: Henderson, NV.
Age: 58
Posts: 2,773
Tejwant Singh is just really nice
Tejwant Singh is just really nice
   
Adherent: Sikhi
Liked 3,605 Times in 1,545 Posts
    Nationality: United States
Re: Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism ?

Sikhi requires internal conversion of a person irrespective of one's hue,creed or faith so one can become a Sikh.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37736

What do I mean by internal conversion?

It means to be a pragmatist, no mechanical rituals to please some deity, accepting all humankind as one.

Sikhi gives the follower the tools to breed goodness within which can be shared with all.

For a Sikh, one can be a good Christian, a good Jew, a Muslim, Buddhist, Jaini etc etc provided they do not claim any monopoly on some God which is a fallacy because we all know there is only ONE SOURCE of ALL there IS. And if they spread the goodness they have attained through their religions to all without trying to convert them.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37736

Conversion is prohibited in Sikhi. Love sprouts from the within.

Tejwant Singh
Reply With Quote
The following members appreciate Tejwant Singh Ji for the above message.
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 15-Dec-2011, 01:40 AM
OneD10s's Avatar OneD10s OneD10s is offline
 
Enrolled: Nov 28th, 2011
Posts: 40
OneD10s is an unknown quantity at this point
   
Adherent: Sikhi
Liked 48 Times in 19 Posts
    Nationality: United Kingdom
Re: Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism ?

Harry Hall you wrote:

However there is another Sikhi which is not so open, it is heavy in ritual, tradition, it follows the caste system, it is corrupt, sexist, and you may have to develop a taste for Bacardi or Scotch and learn how to dance like a drugged up bear, you may find yourself excluded from embracing this wonderful branch of Sikhi, with its required chanting of the holy word 'Izzat' (respect), and the constant repeating of the holy phrase 'log kya kehan ghai' (what will people say), as the entry requirements are quite limited. You may have to be content with just the rather boring pure strain........sorry.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37736


I think you are describing the culture which is attached to the majority of Sikh's from Punjab, and especially to these Sikhs who have migrated to the UK. Most who are not from this background seem to follow and practice sikhi very well!
Reply With Quote
The following members appreciate OneD10s Ji for the above message.
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 15-Dec-2011, 11:20 AM
Navdeep88's Avatar Navdeep88 Navdeep88 is offline
 
Enrolled: Dec 23rd, 2009
Age: 23
Posts: 278
Navdeep88 is on a distinguished roadNavdeep88 is on a distinguished roadNavdeep88 is on a distinguished roadNavdeep88 is on a distinguished roadNavdeep88 is on a distinguished road
   
Adherent: Secular
Blog Entries: 2
Liked 422 Times in 187 Posts
    Nationality: Canada
Re: Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism ?

I agree with D1OS,
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37736

Harry Ji,

With all due respect, that description of vehmently non-Sikh things may cause confusion to a newcomer... even if they are said in sarcasm.
Reply With Quote
The following members appreciate Navdeep88 Ji for the above message.
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 15-Dec-2011, 15:22 PM
harry haller's Avatar harry haller harry haller is offline
 
Enrolled: Jan 31st, 2011
Location: UK
Age: 43
Posts: 1,521
harry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the rough
   
Adherent: Sikh
Blog Entries: 91
Liked 2,152 Times in 982 Posts
    Nationality: United Kingdom
Re: Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism ?

Gurfatehji

In our quest for the search for Sacha Padshah, I feel it is important to define what is good, and what is bad.

I feel it is important for a newcomer to be aware of all the things that can be presented under the Sikhi banner, and to be aware of what is social Sikhi and what is Bani.

I do agree with your post, I apologise for my sarcastic nature, I should have been more succulent, or even succint.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37736

"I think you are describing the culture which is attached to the majority of Sikh's from Punjab, and especially to these Sikhs who have migrated to the UK. Most who are not from this background seem to follow and practice sikhi very well!"

D10sji,

Unless you are like Maiji, or Ishnaji, the probability is that you are descended from those Sikhs from Punjab, and still have ties there, so for a lot of us this culture cannot be shaken off. Sometimes I envy those that practice Sikhi in its purest form, without the tainting of tradition and culture
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37736
Reply With Quote
The following member appreciates harry haller Ji for the above message.
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 15-Dec-2011, 16:25 PM
Mai Harinder Kaur's Avatar Mai Harinder Kaur Mai Harinder Kaur is offline
 
Enrolled: Oct 6th, 2006
Location: British Columbia, Canada
Age: 60
Posts: 1,622
Mai Harinder Kaur is a jewel in the roughMai Harinder Kaur is a jewel in the roughMai Harinder Kaur is a jewel in the roughMai Harinder Kaur is a jewel in the roughMai Harinder Kaur is a jewel in the roughMai Harinder Kaur is a jewel in the roughMai Harinder Kaur is a jewel in the roughMai Harinder Kaur is a jewel in the roughMai Harinder Kaur is a jewel in the roughMai Harinder Kaur is a jewel in the roughMai Harinder Kaur is a jewel in the roughMai Harinder Kaur is a jewel in the rough
   
Adherent: Sikhi
Blog Entries: 1
Liked 2,469 Times in 1,047 Posts
    Nationality: Canada
Re: Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by harry haller View Post
Gurfatehji
Unless you are like Maiji, or Ishnaji, the probability is that you are descended from those Sikhs from Punjab, and still have ties there, so for a lot of us this culture cannot be shaken off. Sometimes I envy those that practice Sikhi in its purest form, without the tainting of tradition and culture
[/COLOR][/COLOR]

Just to clarify, my Dad was Punjabi and as a child I spent all my summers sweltering in India.

My big advantage is that my Dad rejected most of that silly Punjabi stuff and made a conscious effort to give me a classical Western education. Lucky me! I got the good stuff of both cultures and missed most of the bad stuff, especially the bad stuff in Punjabi culture.
Reply With Quote
The following members appreciate Mai Harinder Kaur Ji for the above message.
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 15-Dec-2011, 16:37 PM
harry haller's Avatar harry haller harry haller is offline
 
Enrolled: Jan 31st, 2011
Location: UK
Age: 43
Posts: 1,521
harry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the rough
   
Adherent: Sikh
Blog Entries: 91
Liked 2,152 Times in 982 Posts
    Nationality: United Kingdom
Re: Can a person of any race or skin color convert to Sikhism ?

  Donate Today!  
Maiji,

Many thanks for clarification, I cannot help but visualise people, and in my minds eye when you have talked about him, I always imagined him looking like cuddly Guru Ka Singh ala you tube, much kudos to him for having the courage to use his wisdom to take a stand against the 'bad stuff' in Punjabi culture.
Reply With Quote
The following member appreciates harry haller Ji for the above message.
   Click Here to Donate Now!

Support Us!
Become a Promoter!
Gurfateh ji, you can become a SPN Promoter by Donating as little as $10 each month. With limited resources & high operational costs, your donations make it possible for us to deliver a quality website and spread the teachings of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, to serve & uplift humanity. Every contribution counts. Donate Generously. Gurfateh!
ReplyPost New Topic In This Forum Stay Connected to Sikhism, Click Here to Register Now!

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Tools Search
Search:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

» Gurbani Jukebox
Listen to Gurbani while surfing SPN!
» Active Discussions
sikhism Who is "Mohan"?
Today 11:19 AM
15 Replies, 182 Views
sikhism ਨਾਮਾ
Today 11:06 AM
0 Replies, 9 Views
sikhism Sikh Books downloads
Today 10:21 AM
1 Replies, 20 Views
sikhism Salok Sheikh Farid ji...
Today 09:35 AM
0 Replies, 12 Views
sikhism How important is Matha...
Today 09:35 AM
55 Replies, 958 Views
sikhism In Punjab, three farmers...
Today 05:36 AM
0 Replies, 26 Views
sikhism Supernatural Sikhs, what...
Today 03:45 AM
19 Replies, 395 Views
sikhism Sukhmani Sahib Astpadi...
Yesterday 22:57 PM
0 Replies, 27 Views
sikhism Sikh Diamonds Video...
Yesterday 17:09 PM
4 Replies, 85 Views
Herman Hesse,...
Yesterday 14:06 PM
12 Replies, 203 Views
Do You Think You Are...
Yesterday 09:59 AM
94 Replies, 8,249 Views
Sukhmani Sahib Astpadi...
Yesterday 05:18 AM
0 Replies, 50 Views
Truth Stranger Than...
Yesterday 02:52 AM
0 Replies, 54 Views
US report slams India on...
By linzer
25-May-2012 23:37 PM
2 Replies, 93 Views
What is Prayer? Should...
25-May-2012 20:06 PM
91 Replies, 2,332 Views
» Books You Should Read...
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT +6.5. The time now is 13:02 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.5.2 Copyright © 2004-12, All Rights Reserved. Sikh Philosophy Network


Page generated in 0.47126 seconds with 29 queries