[Kanwaljit Singh]

In Honor of Sahib Siri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj in the Roop of the Siri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib Ji the Sikh Sangat of Espanola New Mexico are in the process of preparing a Guru Ghar for the Siri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib Ji. This Dasam Darbar will serve the Sikh Sangat in learning and experiencing the essence of the Tenth Master as well as training in the Martial Traditions of Gatka and Shastar Vidiya. Two Buildings have been allocated for service to the Dasam Guru Granth Ji. One will be the Dasam Darbar and one will be the Altar for and storage of the Shastars.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/community-out-reach/37910-dasam-darbar-new-mexico.html

Included in this sacred space we will have a training ground prepared just in front of both buildings where all those who wish to learn can attend Martial Arts classes in the presence of the Shakti of the Tenth Master, The Dasam Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

The grounds will also be home to a Shirdai preparation station. We will instal a large marble Palbatta and part of our practice will be to prepare Shirdai in the tradition of the Khalsa Fauj.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37910

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PS: What is this Shirdai and Palbatta?

[Gyani Jarnail Singh]

There is NO SUCH THING as a SRI Dasam GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI and NO SIKH Gurdwara can have Parkash of any other GURU than the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as SIKHS have ONLY ONE GURU.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37910
The Tenth Guru passed on the Gurgaddee of Nanak to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji....thus there is none other except PRETENDERS to the Gurgadee as was also the case of Baba Sri Chand..baba mohan, Baba Prtihi Chand, Bab Meharvaan, baba hundali, baba Ram rai and so on and so on...BUT the REAL and Only GURU was always recognised from Guru Anagd Ji to Guru Gobind Singh Ji..so is the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji recognised as the One and ONLY Authentic claimant to the Gurghadee of Guru nanak-Guru gobind Singh Ji.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37910

ONE Akal Purakh..ONE GURU...ONE GRANTH.......NO DUALITY....NO DUBHIDHA...NO MAYA JAAL....

http://khalsanews.org/articles/Read&Identify.pdf read why the dsm granth can never equal the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji even if its JUST for "parkash" purposes .

[Kanwaljit Singh]

I raised up the issue with the person who shared this link. You can find the conversation here:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...00001840427190

[Aman Singh]

Another winning business strategy by Bhajan & Co... make a while the sun shines...

[Kanwaljit Singh]

My question still stands:

What is this Shirdai and Palbatta?
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37910

If you look at my link to the FB conversation, it all looks unclear what they are upto. But I think they are beating everyone, by having a 'darbar' with just Dasam Granth.

[Ambarsaria]

Originally Posted by Kanwaljit Singh

My question still stands:

What is this Shirdai .....?

The following extracted from another site,

The first step of preparing Shaheedi Degh is obtaining five ingredients, Badaam (Almonds),Cuss Cuss (dried Poppy Seeds), Kali Mirch (Black Pepper), Green Ilechi (green Cardamon) and hand picked marijuana leaves. Within the Akali Nihang Dals they will not use almonds cracked by anybody else. They must be cracked fresh by the 'Sukhi Singh' - (The bringer of Happiness Singh, The Nihang that prepares the Sukha)................The Sukhi Singhs must take an Ishnaan before they commence the preparation of Shaheedi Degh. More Satkaar is given to Shaheedi Degh than is given to the Karah Prashaad in any Western Gurdwara Sahib.

All five ingredients are placed into the Snheri (Golden Vessels, refers to the stone mortar), the Sukhi Singh adds a little fresh water and begins to perform ragrha ( circling movement) with the Slotr (heavy wooden club). This is done until all the ingredients have been reduced to a green thick paste. Throughout the preparation of Shaheedi Degh the Sukhi Singhs must have their mouths covered and their minds on Gurbani or the Gurmantar. This is vital to the preparation of Shaheedi Degh, only when Gurbani is on the lips of the Singhs preparing it does it become true Shaheehi Degha. Only then is it blessed by Shaheed Singhs.

One wonders how they will do the red colored stuff legally.

Search for "Shardaaee" to get some nice pictures from original site.

I think Batta is just like a utensil made from sarb loh. Pal I don't know of Palbatta.



Sat Sri Akal.

[Kanwaljit Singh]

Somewhere inside I was afraid of that only :|

So they will be making the Sukh Nidhan. And if they call it Shaheedi Degh, I wonder if those who drink it would go out and attain Shaheedi to fulfill its purpose!

More Satkaar is given to Shaheedi Degh than is given to the Karah Prashaad in any Western Gurdwara Sahib.

That makes sense!

[Ambarsaria]

Originally Posted by Kanwaljit Singh

Somewhere inside I was afraid of that only :|

So they will be making the Sukh Nidhan. And if they call it Shaheedi Degh, I wonder if those who drink it would go out and attain Shaheedi to fulfill its purpose!

That makes sense!

Kanwaljit Singh ji who knows? By the way I used to have Shardaee without the leaves in our house as an energy drink that was supposed to give you a cooling feeling. I did not like the taste.

May be in 50 years this will be as common as Coca-Cola when it had real cocaine at the beginning . West is always late in catching wisdom and cuisine of the East.

sat Sri Akal.

[Kanwaljit Singh]

Hahahaha yes I have to stop having Khas Khas Sharbat and Coca Cola again. Don't know what this life is coming to.

[sukritkaur]

Mr. Kanwaljit Singh Ji these people have become really shady over the years. Their practices are really odd. They are in full Bana and do Nitnem, they also send their children to India to learn about Sikhi however their tendencies to try and fuse yogi practices with Sikhi bother me and the fact that they do Rehan Sabais and Camps specifically during winter and summer solstices, try to preach the acquarian age is just too much. Here is the facebook of an ex-3HO Sikh who exposes them: http://www.facebook.com/gursant
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37910

Their rationale for calling the Dasam Granth as the Dasam Guru Granth is that the Nihangs Singhs regard it as much and they are following suit. I spent over two weeks researching these guys after I saw one 3HO sikh preaching the acquarian age last year and their practices appall me just as much as the fake destructive sects and deras of India.

Here's a video where the Chardikala Jatha (the only 3HO Sikhs I marginally respect), they've done Kirtan in the UK and in India, notably Harimandar Sahib talks about the Dasam "Guru" Granth
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37910

History of the Sri Dasam Granth - YouTube

History of the Sri Dasam Granth - YouTube

Here's what they said about the Sarb Loh Granth

Chandi Di Var & Sri Sarb Loh Granth - YouTube

Chandi Di Var & Sri Sarb Loh Granth - YouTube

I don't know much about either bodies of text and have yet to read them, but if anyone does have any information about either, please inform the sangat

WJKK WJKP,
Sukrit Kaur