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13-Oct-2009, 01:02 AM
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| | | | | Re: Kaur Power And, of course, Narayanjot ji comes in with a word of sanity!
Yes, Sikhi, in its true, pure form does go against Indian culture in many ways.
Without getting deeply into the subject, my observation is that in Indian culture, the primary force in a person's life is the group, in this case, the family. The welfare of the family is paramount and the individual is expected to put that ahead of their own wishes and desires. In the West, it is the opposite. The individual's wants and desires are the primary force and the welfare of the family is secondary, if considered at all. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/business-and-lifestyle/22488-kaur-power.html
There is bad and good in both systems. I think we should try for a happy medium. Not easy, but little about being a Sikh is easy.
As for izzat, as I said earlier, that should be put into a rocket and shot into the sun where it would be destroyed forever.
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dhaadhar thoo kabehi n jaanas rae ||
You frog, you will never understand.
ਭਖਸਿ ਸਿਬਾਲੁ ਬਸਸਿ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਜਲ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਨ ਲਖਸਿ ਰੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
bhakhas sibaal basas niramal jal anmrith n lakhas rae ||1|| rehaao ||
You eat the dirt, while you dwell in the immaculate waters. You know nothing of the ambrosial nectar there. ||1||Pause||
Guru Nanak Dev ji Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Ang 990
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13-Oct-2009, 09:48 AM
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| | | | | Re: Kaur Power Here is a list that I put together after analyzing the posts where suggestions were made. I do not recommend ranking them for this reason. Some of these items may not seem as important as others. But they are more manageable as first steps toward a larger goal. They can can be addressed more quickly, and will have a cummulative effect if implemented as a group of issues. And we don't want to lose momentum. Tackling something huge like stopping men from beating their wives is very difficult to effect immediately. But beginning the process of educating women and men is something we can do right away. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=22488Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=22488 - Advocate for participation of women at all levels of Gurdwara seva, including performance of kirtan at Harimandir Sahib
- Become advocates for changing laws that are ineffective, fostering new laws when they are needed, and enforcing existing laws when they are not being enforced
- Become an online portal for women and men where they have access to webinars, articles, and other information that raises awareness of abuse and discrimination against women
- Become an online portal where women and families can gain access to information about services and advocacy
- Campaign against female foeticide
- Change negative attitudes about women who excel in work, at school, in settings outside the home
- Educate women about their status, helping them understand that they themselves are not aware that they are in a bad situation; Build their confidence to seek help and raise their awareness of how to get the services they need
- Educate women and men to recognize abuse at home and in relationships by sharing stories, case studies, videos, and articles that bring them to understand that there are other ways of relating that are positive
- Encourage women and girls to learn self-defense skills (e.g., Gatka) to protect themselves but also to build their self-esteem
- Help women understand that they in no way “caused” or are responsible for physical abuse, but that they are the victims of another’s uncontrollable anger
- Disseminate information about bullying
- Raise awareness of community protective services that are available, and foster confidence in women who are being abused to use these services
- Raise awareness that being abused is not shameful
- Teach newly-weds the signs and symptoms of abusive relationships
Now I think the next step is to take each idea and brainstorm 2 or 3 or more strategies that we can put into action with our current resources. This is how we build sustainability and capacity. Once we begin to see evidence of success from these early stages, we will be in a better position to convince others to provide resources so we can do more ambitious things.
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13-Oct-2009, 10:07 AM
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| | | | | Re: Kaur Power I just had to post this quote from the thread just published on Ashvinder Kundan Singh... Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=22488
"There are those who wait for the world to change. and then there are those who put their strengths into action to revolutionize their lives and the environment around them. Their dreams become their driving force, as they take the world by storm and revise the way we think." | | The following members appreciate Narayanjot Kaur Ji for the above message. | | 
13-Oct-2009, 10:28 AM
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| | | | | Re: Kaur Power Wonderful Narayanjot ji!!  Thanks for taking your precious time out and doing the most concise synopsis and inspired by your enthusiasm, SPN now has just now owned kaurpower.com... this website will be used to implement all of your efforts in a more visible and systematic way. We will have this website up and running in a week's time with waheguru's grace. | | The following members appreciate Aman Singh Ji for the above message. | | 
13-Oct-2009, 10:35 AM
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| | | | | Re: Kaur Power Actually, we are blessed that you Aman ji are always there to stand behind us and make ideas become reality.
I am not joking.  | | The following members appreciate Narayanjot Kaur Ji for the above message. | | 
13-Oct-2009, 10:58 AM
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| | | | | Re: Kaur Power Narayanjot ji and Mai ji,
With your permission may I add that Kaur Power only for those who stand up, own up and want to be counted as Kaurs. As kanwardeep ji had pointed out earlier, this tribe is rapidly depleting! | | The following members appreciate harbansj24 Ji for the above message. | | 
13-Oct-2009, 13:01 PM
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13-Oct-2009, 17:04 PM
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| | | | | Re: Kaur Power Too beautiful and an Ardaas is what we need to follow it -- all the events too much without a blessing. | 
13-Oct-2009, 20:47 PM
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| | | | | Re: Kaur Power Quote:
Originally Posted by harbansj24 ............may I add that Kaur Power only for those who stand up, own up and want to be counted as Kaurs. As kanwardeep ji had pointed out earlier, this tribe is rapidly depleting! | In my humble opinion..
Those who stand up for themselves have the same jyot as the ones who don't.... so why differntiate????????
AND you know who dont stand up actually are the ones who need more help. They are the ones who lack courage/oppurtunity/knowledge/support...... A girl who knows to speak for herself---will find her way out of any trouble sooner or later(many times even without any body's support)...............but the one who can't is the one who need support/knowledge/oppurtunity/courage from the point zero.........and we should not neglect them at any cost..............as if they stay neglected, this social evil will never come to an end, doesn't matter what we do..............
all kaurs(women) deserve to be counted as kaurs..........it is the family and social setup that make them the way they are... they are humans... just like you and me and others...
Guru Ji says-- ਨ ਕੋਈ ਸੂਰੁ ਨ ਕੋਈ ਹੀਣਾ ਸਭ ਪ੍ਰਗਟੀ ਜੋਤਿ ਤੁਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਾਰੀ n koee soor n koee heenaa sabh pragattee joth thumhaaree (panna 916) | | The following member appreciates simpy Ji for the above message. | | 
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