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<blockquote data-quote="JawDroppingPhilosopher" data-source="post: 26627" data-attributes="member: 1630"><p>HAHA... So i see you need some help, lol, i dont blame you KDS1980.</p><p> </p><p>I can see your starting to sweat in the heat of the new concept of an open mind.</p><p> </p><p>Which is all i have, not a massive ego, infact KDS1980, you are the one who talks continuously of ego, so you must have the problem...</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>vijaydeep Singh, i welcome you to bring your sikh philosophy to this debate, KDS1980 needs some help lol.</p><p> </p><p>vijaydeep Singh, do not let my beliefs misslead you, i am no muslim.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Yes i am concearned about the children in Iraq, i am also in the study of social politics, so i suggest you quit that arrogant talk, infact i will help children in Iraq... <span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: red"><strong>what will you do? You didnt even notice the problem, you didnt know that they used nail bombs on children because your mind does not span further than the realms of corporate controlled media and news, you narrow minded, ignorant, insulting fool.</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: red">Using abusive language? To be honest, anyone who supports the war in Iraq deserves to be abused vocally.. and you just made a fool out of yourself again!</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: red">You said that if anyone dissagreed with Hitler, he was killed, then you said if anyone disagreed with me, i call them names?</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: red">....Yeh thats what you call an accurate comparison.</span></strong> </p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: red">LOLOLOL CAN ANOYONE ELSE SEE HOW STUPID THIS MAN IS??????</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: black"><u>Hitler did not believe in freedom of thought...</u></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red">i do</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><strong><u>Hitler was a fascist who believed in the genetic control of a population.</u></strong></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red">I dont</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><strong><u>Hitler believed in population control through class, religion and politics.</u></strong></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red">I dont</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><strong><u>Hitler burned his own reichstag building and blamed it on his opposition for a justification of war.</u></strong></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red">Just like America's 9/11</span></p><p> </p><p><strong><u><span style="color: black">Hitler supported war</span></u></strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red">I dont</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: black"><strong>The worst thing is KDS1980, you compare me to Hitler in the worst possible way, you claim i am a dictator...</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">a Dictator with an open mind? - That doesnt make sense, and yes.. in actual fact i feel you are a dictator in that you have one single narrow minded belief in which you want EVERYONE to adopt to. (high mass belief)</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">An islamic scholar could not exist in a society were freedom of thought was expressed... That is not possible.</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">So in reality.</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">YOU ARE FAR MORE LIKE HITLER.</span></strong></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: red">Look at the above quote made by KDS1980</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: red">This KDS1980, is able to use abusive language... and he completely castigates anyone else for doing the same... he calls me a dictator for calling him a fool (which he is). </span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: red">Isnt this the actions of a coming dictator? A dictator would think he is right in every sense, that even if someone performed the same "immoral" action as him (in this case being insulting), that he is deemed correct for doing this and the other person is wrong.</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000">I can make comparisons too, your and belief reminds me of stalinism.</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: red">My people, this is the ignorance of a closed mind.</span></strong> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><strong>freedom can only = freedom</strong></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><strong>this idiot thinks freedom = a dictatorship.</strong></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">So if 3.5 million people follow sikhism it makes it right... so you think we should just follow other people... have no freedom of our own thought?</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">LOL okay then... so if there are over a billion muslims in this world, doesnt that make Islam the one true faith.</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">1 billion is bigger than 3.5 million...</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">in your theory, ( that universal truth is measured in what the mass population believe in ) it would make sense in measuring truth this way...</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: red"><strong>which is ridiculous!!!! because TRUTH IS NOT MEASURED IN MASS APPEAL!!</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">I AM NOT STOPPING YOU FROM WORSHIPPING SIKHISM, YOU ARE THE ONE STOPPING ME FROM HAVING FREEDOM OF THOUGHT...</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: red">REMEMBER BACK TO THE START OF THE POST... I WAS THE FIRST TO REPLY WITH MY OPINION....</span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: red">THEN YOU CAME IN WITH YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS!!!!</span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000">I DID NOT COME AFTER YOU!!! YOU CAME AFTER ME!!!</span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">IT IS YOU STOPPING MY BELIEF!!! NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND!!!!!!</span></strong></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>This is the sight of a loser in a debate, he replys to constructive </strong></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">Criticism with loose, pointless, insulting remarks as the above.</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">conspiracy theory? what? everyone knows this, its common fact, lol, the british did not concearn themselves of the middle east because they wanted to sort out their own country. The middle east was then broken down politically.</span></strong></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">A conspiracy theory would entail an arguement to the extent of their actions, meaning, did they do this on purpose for a future control of that region... that is conspiracy but what i said eariler is fact.</span></strong></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">Its not my fault if you are ignorant in the fields of history my dear friend, you should turn off the news and read more books, i on the other hand am knowledgable in these fields.:}{}{}: </span></strong></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">it is the fact of thousends of British and worldwide economists and historians.</span></strong></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">If you simply studied history and the fall of the Otomon Empire you would realise that the British had a major role to play in the middle east, after the fall of the otomons.</span></strong></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">Its clear you cant handle the fact i have more knowledge then you, and you have no points of debate, your slipping my friend, your ignorance and closed minded nature is the oil beneath your delicate feet.</span></strong></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>What? your telling me things that i have been talking about for the past 10 posts!!! now kds1980 is adopting my beliefs!! finally his mind is opening to the fact there could be more truth than what sikhism states lol I know war is caused by division you dumbass LOLL</strong></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">And in actual fact you should listen to those many many sikhs who feel their religion has been taken over by high caste hindus (Brahmans), these people have also lost their belief because of your CONTINUAL SUPPORT OF A CASTE SYSTEM.</span></strong></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: red"><strong>what??? your saying that if i curse the US and the UK i am cursing the actions of every other country???</strong></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: red"><strong>Could you please explain this nonsense lol.</strong></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>What do you actually know of my opinions on ceratin countries? NOTHING lol your not making any sense.</strong></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong>So you believe that the size of someone and his skin colour are not petty differences? lol you have the mind set of a lethargic racist.</strong></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">I cant be bothered with this pointless debate. lol</span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">I said its a petty <span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><u>DIFFERENCE </u></strong></span><span style="font-size: 10px">not an issue!!! everything is of issue!! you should read my posts 30 times cause you dont understand them, you said we are different in all ways..</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">These differences between humans are petty, a small person is no different to me than a tall person, i<span style="color: red"> do not feel more at home with an indian than i do with a black person</span>, it is your mind that creates the feelings of difference, your own egotism, thinking that your belief or religion is better than theirs, its pathetic, we are one as a race.</span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">If a small person tries to enter the army lol ( i dont know what this has to do with what i origianlly ment) then he should not join for SAFETY reasons, what do you want me to do?</span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">you say humankind is different? yes but our mind set should be that we are all one, a one race! one infinite energy.</span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">ONLY THEN CAN WE STOP FIGHTING WITH ONE ANOTHER, REMOVE THE METHODS OF CONTROL, HAVE A SOCIAL LOOK ON ECONOMICS.</span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: red"><strong>Because i call you an idiot you say im egotistical? yeh right, that makes sense lol. think you need to visit the nut house mate.</strong></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: red"><strong>lets not forget, mr perfect who does not insult people...</strong></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: red">Hypocrite.</span></span></strong></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>Why should i not post again? are you that desperate to keep me shut and impose your method of belief?</strong></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>No, god gave us the power of thought. Why dont you question your own belief mr KDS1980.</strong></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">Your religion was actually compiled hundreds of years after the death of Guru Nanak, <span style="color: red">none of these people claimed to be messengers of God.</span></span></strong></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>Do you know that the pictures of Guru Nanak are admitted by sikhs to be simply "artists impressions".</strong></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>They do not know what he looks like.</strong></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>They do not know if he existed, and the evidence that he did points to him being a simple islamic man.</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">Your religion even promotes beastiality!! a princess (Kaur) marrying a lion (singh) this symbolism is FAR MORE THAN WHAT IT SEEMS.</span></strong></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>The temple i used to attend in the UK , the smethwick temple, which was one of the first temples created in the UK, this temple is completely ridden with corruption, the main owner and financial representative of the temple actually laundered money into his businesses for years, he set up a network crime ring with other high members of the temple and stole millions from governemnt grants.</strong></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>I figured this out when i walked though the horrid state of the temple, it is run down, and health and safety legislation was the only core element in provoking actual change within the temple.</strong></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>They renevated it slightly, spending what was 10% of all of the money recieved from mainly financial Government grants based on geographical vicinity, and not forgetting the huge amounts of money demanded from sikh believers, even non believers, food, free human resources, that temple to me is a corrupt business, one which has been found out, and everybody in my family knows about its corruption.</strong></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>These people are corrupt, ask yourself this. IF TOP SIKHS DONT FOLLOW YOUR RELIGION THEN WHY DO YOU?? Why do you fund these corrupt so called elite sikhs? Do you even know if they exist? LOL Why do you put pockets in corrupt sikhs which should be representing a history of sikhism in the UK?</strong></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">And you think religion is free from the realm of money? then how the hell did you pay for the "golden temple" lol the stupidity and obviousness of my points are obsured!!!</span></strong></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>Your view on others, your judgement of the way others are is that of a subjective judgement, taking place within the mind and modified by individual bias, this is influence in an unfair way.</strong></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">The truth is in your face yet you cannot free your mind, question your belief, the facts, study them.</span></strong></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">I see sikhs and muslims argue with each other, none of the parties actually go home and question THEIR OWN BELIEF.</span></strong></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">EGOTISM, THE REAL EGOTISM.</span></strong></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JawDroppingPhilosopher, post: 26627, member: 1630"] HAHA... So i see you need some help, lol, i dont blame you KDS1980. I can see your starting to sweat in the heat of the new concept of an open mind. Which is all i have, not a massive ego, infact KDS1980, you are the one who talks continuously of ego, so you must have the problem... vijaydeep Singh, i welcome you to bring your sikh philosophy to this debate, KDS1980 needs some help lol. vijaydeep Singh, do not let my beliefs misslead you, i am no muslim. Yes i am concearned about the children in Iraq, i am also in the study of social politics, so i suggest you quit that arrogant talk, infact i will help children in Iraq... [SIZE=3][COLOR=red][B]what will you do? You didnt even notice the problem, you didnt know that they used nail bombs on children because your mind does not span further than the realms of corporate controlled media and news, you narrow minded, ignorant, insulting fool.[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] [B][COLOR=red]Using abusive language? To be honest, anyone who supports the war in Iraq deserves to be abused vocally.. and you just made a fool out of yourself again![/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=red][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=red]You said that if anyone dissagreed with Hitler, he was killed, then you said if anyone disagreed with me, i call them names?[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=red][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=red]....Yeh thats what you call an accurate comparison.[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=red]LOLOLOL CAN ANOYONE ELSE SEE HOW STUPID THIS MAN IS??????[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=black][U]Hitler did not believe in freedom of thought...[/U][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=red]i do[/COLOR] [COLOR=black][B][U]Hitler was a fascist who believed in the genetic control of a population.[/U][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]I dont[/COLOR] [COLOR=black][B][U]Hitler believed in population control through class, religion and politics.[/U][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]I dont[/COLOR] [COLOR=black][B][U]Hitler burned his own reichstag building and blamed it on his opposition for a justification of war.[/U][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Just like America's 9/11[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR] [B][U][COLOR=black]Hitler supported war[/COLOR][/U][/B] [B][/B] [COLOR=red]I dont[/COLOR] [SIZE=4][COLOR=black][B]The worst thing is KDS1980, you compare me to Hitler in the worst possible way, you claim i am a dictator...[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=4]a Dictator with an open mind? - That doesnt make sense, and yes.. in actual fact i feel you are a dictator in that you have one single narrow minded belief in which you want EVERYONE to adopt to. (high mass belief)[/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=4][/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=4]An islamic scholar could not exist in a society were freedom of thought was expressed... That is not possible.[/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=4]So in reality.[/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=4]YOU ARE FAR MORE LIKE HITLER.[/SIZE][/B] [B][COLOR=red]Look at the above quote made by KDS1980[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=red]This KDS1980, is able to use abusive language... and he completely castigates anyone else for doing the same... he calls me a dictator for calling him a fool (which he is). [/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=red]Isnt this the actions of a coming dictator? A dictator would think he is right in every sense, that even if someone performed the same "immoral" action as him (in this case being insulting), that he is deemed correct for doing this and the other person is wrong.[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#ff0000]I can make comparisons too, your and belief reminds me of stalinism.[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=red]My people, this is the ignorance of a closed mind.[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=red][B]freedom can only = freedom[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][B]this idiot thinks freedom = a dictatorship.[/B][/COLOR] [B][SIZE=3]So if 3.5 million people follow sikhism it makes it right... so you think we should just follow other people... have no freedom of our own thought?[/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=4]LOL okay then... so if there are over a billion muslims in this world, doesnt that make Islam the one true faith.[/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=4]1 billion is bigger than 3.5 million...[/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=4]in your theory, ( that universal truth is measured in what the mass population believe in ) it would make sense in measuring truth this way...[/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=4][COLOR=red][B]which is ridiculous!!!! because TRUTH IS NOT MEASURED IN MASS APPEAL!![/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=4]I AM NOT STOPPING YOU FROM WORSHIPPING SIKHISM, YOU ARE THE ONE STOPPING ME FROM HAVING FREEDOM OF THOUGHT...[/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=4][COLOR=red]REMEMBER BACK TO THE START OF THE POST... I WAS THE FIRST TO REPLY WITH MY OPINION....[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=4][COLOR=red]THEN YOU CAME IN WITH YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS!!!![/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000]I DID NOT COME AFTER YOU!!! YOU CAME AFTER ME!!![/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=4]IT IS YOU STOPPING MY BELIEF!!! NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND!!!!!![/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][B]This is the sight of a loser in a debate, he replys to constructive [/B][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3]Criticism with loose, pointless, insulting remarks as the above.[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2] [B][SIZE=3]conspiracy theory? what? everyone knows this, its common fact, lol, the british did not concearn themselves of the middle east because they wanted to sort out their own country. The middle east was then broken down politically.[/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=3]A conspiracy theory would entail an arguement to the extent of their actions, meaning, did they do this on purpose for a future control of that region... that is conspiracy but what i said eariler is fact.[/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=3]Its not my fault if you are ignorant in the fields of history my dear friend, you should turn off the news and read more books, i on the other hand am knowledgable in these fields.:}{}{}: [/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=3]it is the fact of thousends of British and worldwide economists and historians.[/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=3]If you simply studied history and the fall of the Otomon Empire you would realise that the British had a major role to play in the middle east, after the fall of the otomons.[/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=3]Its clear you cant handle the fact i have more knowledge then you, and you have no points of debate, your slipping my friend, your ignorance and closed minded nature is the oil beneath your delicate feet.[/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][B]What? your telling me things that i have been talking about for the past 10 posts!!! now kds1980 is adopting my beliefs!! finally his mind is opening to the fact there could be more truth than what sikhism states lol I know war is caused by division you dumbass LOLL[/B][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3]And in actual fact you should listen to those many many sikhs who feel their religion has been taken over by high caste hindus (Brahmans), these people have also lost their belief because of your CONTINUAL SUPPORT OF A CASTE SYSTEM.[/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=4][COLOR=red][B]what??? your saying that if i curse the US and the UK i am cursing the actions of every other country???[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][COLOR=red][B]Could you please explain this nonsense lol.[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000][B]What do you actually know of my opinions on ceratin countries? NOTHING lol your not making any sense.[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] [B]So you believe that the size of someone and his skin colour are not petty differences? lol you have the mind set of a lethargic racist.[/B] I cant be bothered with this pointless debate. lol I said its a petty [SIZE=4][B][U]DIFFERENCE [/U][/B][/SIZE][SIZE=2]not an issue!!! everything is of issue!! you should read my posts 30 times cause you dont understand them, you said we are different in all ways..[/SIZE] These differences between humans are petty, a small person is no different to me than a tall person, i[COLOR=red] do not feel more at home with an indian than i do with a black person[/COLOR], it is your mind that creates the feelings of difference, your own egotism, thinking that your belief or religion is better than theirs, its pathetic, we are one as a race. If a small person tries to enter the army lol ( i dont know what this has to do with what i origianlly ment) then he should not join for SAFETY reasons, what do you want me to do? you say humankind is different? yes but our mind set should be that we are all one, a one race! one infinite energy. ONLY THEN CAN WE STOP FIGHTING WITH ONE ANOTHER, REMOVE THE METHODS OF CONTROL, HAVE A SOCIAL LOOK ON ECONOMICS. [SIZE=3][COLOR=red][B]Because i call you an idiot you say im egotistical? yeh right, that makes sense lol. think you need to visit the nut house mate.[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=red][B]lets not forget, mr perfect who does not insult people...[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=3][COLOR=red]Hypocrite.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=4][B]Why should i not post again? are you that desperate to keep me shut and impose your method of belief?[/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][B]No, god gave us the power of thought. Why dont you question your own belief mr KDS1980.[/B][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=4]Your religion was actually compiled hundreds of years after the death of Guru Nanak, [COLOR=red]none of these people claimed to be messengers of God.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=4][B]Do you know that the pictures of Guru Nanak are admitted by sikhs to be simply "artists impressions".[/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][B]They do not know what he looks like.[/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][B]They do not know if he existed, and the evidence that he did points to him being a simple islamic man.[/B][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=4]Your religion even promotes beastiality!! a princess (Kaur) marrying a lion (singh) this symbolism is FAR MORE THAN WHAT IT SEEMS.[/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=4][B]The temple i used to attend in the UK , the smethwick temple, which was one of the first temples created in the UK, this temple is completely ridden with corruption, the main owner and financial representative of the temple actually laundered money into his businesses for years, he set up a network crime ring with other high members of the temple and stole millions from governemnt grants.[/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][B]I figured this out when i walked though the horrid state of the temple, it is run down, and health and safety legislation was the only core element in provoking actual change within the temple.[/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][B]They renevated it slightly, spending what was 10% of all of the money recieved from mainly financial Government grants based on geographical vicinity, and not forgetting the huge amounts of money demanded from sikh believers, even non believers, food, free human resources, that temple to me is a corrupt business, one which has been found out, and everybody in my family knows about its corruption.[/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][B]These people are corrupt, ask yourself this. IF TOP SIKHS DONT FOLLOW YOUR RELIGION THEN WHY DO YOU?? Why do you fund these corrupt so called elite sikhs? Do you even know if they exist? LOL Why do you put pockets in corrupt sikhs which should be representing a history of sikhism in the UK?[/B][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=4]And you think religion is free from the realm of money? then how the hell did you pay for the "golden temple" lol the stupidity and obviousness of my points are obsured!!![/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=4][B]Your view on others, your judgement of the way others are is that of a subjective judgement, taking place within the mind and modified by individual bias, this is influence in an unfair way.[/B][/SIZE] [B][SIZE=4]The truth is in your face yet you cannot free your mind, question your belief, the facts, study them.[/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=4]I see sikhs and muslims argue with each other, none of the parties actually go home and question THEIR OWN BELIEF.[/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE=4]EGOTISM, THE REAL EGOTISM.[/SIZE][/B] [/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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