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Discussion in 'History of Sikhism' started by sarahkaur, Jan 18, 2005.

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  1. sarahkaur

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    i am new to sikhism and want to learn how to tie a turban for a woman and to know if it is obligatory for women to wear
     
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    Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji said that Khalsa has no gender. So when he gave the Rehit Maryada, he did not exclude women from God consciousness. However, it is taking quite some time for women to claim their place as the graceful and noble beings of Waheguru. When we put on the turban we are giving ourselves the regal dignity that Guru Gobind Singh Ji used to transform the sparrows into hawks.

    Guru Gobind Singh Ji gave us our destiny. However, we women have to claim this destiny by lifting ourselves up to walk as Khalsa, rather than as women and men.


    Guru Ji ordered Khalsa to wear Turban including women. Khalsa is man and woman both. Guru Sahib said:

    Kangha Dono Waqat Kar, Paag Chune Kar Bandhye

    Comb your hair twice a day and take of turban by taking off every single palla and same to wear. Do not take it off as a hat. Guru Ji ordered us not to wear hat.

    Sikh Hoe Sir Topi Dhare, Saat Janam Kushti Hoe Marre

    A Sikh who wears hat shall die seven lives with illness of Kohar

    Guru Ji wore turban on Mata Bhago's head and Rani Sadda Kaur wore turban. Women in Khalsa college used to wear turban until 1930's. Guru Ji's Hukam is for everyone, every Khalsa. Women and Men both have same five Kakkars, same Rehts and same rights. Turban is MUST although its not Kakkar but this is the way to keep hair clean and safe.
     
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    wikid dummala tying video on the new wikid site matabhaagkaur.org
     
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    I also believe this idea is applied to every label a man has - gender, race, sexuality, nationality, height, weight, caste, name...

    Comparison: Hindus are supposed to think of themselves as the soul, which has no gender, race etc.
     
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    Ek Oankar Wahiguru Ji Ki Fateh

    Sister Sarah,

    Turban is NOT obligatory for women.This is ture as far as code of sgpc is concerned or code of Nihungs or Nirmalas are concerned.Das want to inform this thing here is that Panth Khalsa or what we call as Sikhism in west is more concerned about worship of eternal God Akal,who is in each and evey atom.Occupies each and every space.

    The five Ks come only after once we have faith in that God.It comes once we see God in all.We ,by mercy of God start to love all and serve all we are serving God.

    coming on to Turban.It is encouragable if lady wears turban as it has same benfit as it gives to male.Like in martial art,Fighting with turban is better then without it.It does protect us from heat,cold or rain.As Das was a non Sikh converted to Sikhism at the age of 21 years.So Das initial found it difficult to understand how to tie the turban.

    As far as his regiment of Sikhs are concerned they are knwn to tie the in an easy fashion which appears rather haphazard way.But das got help from a senior officer.And now he wears turban as in formal style.

    So as in your case you can ask any service personal or Granthi or Gurudwara sahib who can help you to know the way how to tie it.you can also ask any sister from honourable AKJ for that.They even think turban as one of the 5ks.They have there valid points.But for a normal Sikh lady covering of head matters and that can be done by scaff.

    Even covering head all the time like a ritual is anti Gurmat.To be khalsa (Pure one)one must worship Akal only no Avtar(incarnations) no Prophets or No Guru but Khalis(Purly) God is to be worshipped.

    You can visit the lonk below
    http://www.shastarvidiya.org/htmls/keski_introduction.html

    Das is repeating that as per code uncut hairs Kesh are must,that also after haivng faith in Akal the eternal God.Guru himself said ,Mark of Sikhs are five k letters,...without Kes or uncut hairs other 4 ks are useless....
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    However some do believe keski (small turban) is the 5th k and i will provide some sources giving evidence supporting it as a k just as vijaydeep singh ji has given som against it as a k. So pls find some time to look at the following links so you can make your own mind up about it:

    http://www.mkhalsa.com/lit/keskiconvo.html

    http://www.akj.org.uk/literature/article.asp?b=t&s=gurmat&f=srm04b





     

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