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Why Is The Law Of Karma Rejected?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ambarsaria" data-source="post: 179164" data-attributes="member: 14194"><p>There is lot of incisive dialog so I have been more trying to absorb and take it in as appropriate.</p><p></p><p>I do believe that we need to recognize that karam/deed is a well used word in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. There are accents/”matras” that create associative application of the base word <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰਮ</span>/karam. It is an active noun in most usage.</p><p> </p><p> Here some examples,</p><p> </p><p> Another reference below,</p><p><span style="color: #114700"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"> </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #114700"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"></span></span>Let us review the highlighted words,</p><p> </p><p> <strong><u>CONCLUSION</u>: </strong></p><p> <span style="color: #114700"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"> </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #114700"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #114700"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">1. </span></span>It appears beyond any doubt that the word Karam used in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is solely directed at the proposition of doing/acting/carrying out/carried out.</p><p> <span style="color: #114700"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">2. </span></span>The word Karma is not found in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji except as in example 5 above and is again linked to the usage per application of deeds/actions carried out in certain ways.</p><p> <span style="color: #114700"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">3. </span></span>We need to recognize that all of us are following parts of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji per our understanding as well are a product of the culture that surrounds us. The culture of Punjab and what people are surrounded by is predominantly Hindu. Innocently or otherwise usage of common phrases like,<p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #114700"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">a. </span></span><span style="color: #114700"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੇ ਕਰਮਾਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਹੇਊ</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">/</span><span style="color: #114700"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਲਿਖਿਆ ਮਿਲ ਜਾਊ</span></span><span style="color: #114700"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">|/Will get what is pre-destined!</span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #114700"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">b. </span></span><span style="color: #114700"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਿਛਲੀ ਜਿੰਦਗੀ ਦੇ ਕਰਮ ਭੁਗਤ ਰਹੇ ਹਾਂ</span></span><span style="color: #114700"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">|/Paying for previous life</span></span><span style="color: #114700"><span style="font-family: 'Batang'">’</span></span><span style="color: #114700"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">s ill deeds.</span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p>It does not take much to jump from this into Karma as many a Sikhs do and billions others do. But this is not the teaching of our Guru ji or Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.</p><p></p><p> Hope the above is useful in the context of this thread.</p><p> </p><p> Sat Sri Akal.</p><p> </p><p> PS: Complete Shabads/Gurbani stanzas will make the post un-tenable so I have given the references to Srigranth.org for complete shabads. If I am directed otherwise I will post the shabads below.</p><p> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]><object classid="clsid:38481807-CA0E-42D2-BF39-B33AF135CC4D" id=ieooui></object> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]--></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ambarsaria, post: 179164, member: 14194"] There is lot of incisive dialog so I have been more trying to absorb and take it in as appropriate. I do believe that we need to recognize that karam/deed is a well used word in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. There are accents/”matras” that create associative application of the base word [FONT=Raavi]ਕਰਮ[/FONT]/karam. It is an active noun in most usage. Here some examples, Another reference below, [COLOR=#114700][FONT=Raavi] [/FONT][/COLOR]Let us review the highlighted words, [B][U]CONCLUSION[/U]: [/B] [COLOR=#114700][FONT=AnmolUniPr] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#114700][FONT=AnmolUniPr]1. [/FONT][/COLOR]It appears beyond any doubt that the word Karam used in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is solely directed at the proposition of doing/acting/carrying out/carried out. [COLOR=#114700][FONT=AnmolUniPr]2. [/FONT][/COLOR]The word Karma is not found in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji except as in example 5 above and is again linked to the usage per application of deeds/actions carried out in certain ways. [COLOR=#114700][FONT=AnmolUniPr]3. [/FONT][/COLOR]We need to recognize that all of us are following parts of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji per our understanding as well are a product of the culture that surrounds us. The culture of Punjab and what people are surrounded by is predominantly Hindu. Innocently or otherwise usage of common phrases like,[INDENT][COLOR=#114700][FONT=AnmolUniPr]a. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#114700][FONT=Raavi]ਜੇ ਕਰਮਾਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਹੇਊ[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Raavi]/[/FONT][COLOR=#114700][FONT=Raavi]ਲਿਖਿਆ ਮਿਲ ਜਾਊ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#114700][FONT=AnmolUniPr]|/Will get what is pre-destined![/FONT][/COLOR] [/INDENT][INDENT][COLOR=#114700][FONT=AnmolUniPr]b. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#114700][FONT=Raavi]ਪਿਛਲੀ ਜਿੰਦਗੀ ਦੇ ਕਰਮ ਭੁਗਤ ਰਹੇ ਹਾਂ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#114700][FONT=AnmolUniPr]|/Paying for previous life[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#114700][FONT=Batang]’[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#114700][FONT=AnmolUniPr]s ill deeds.[/FONT][/COLOR] [/INDENT]It does not take much to jump from this into Karma as many a Sikhs do and billions others do. But this is not the teaching of our Guru ji or Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Hope the above is useful in the context of this thread. Sat Sri Akal. PS: Complete Shabads/Gurbani stanzas will make the post un-tenable so I have given the references to Srigranth.org for complete shabads. If I am directed otherwise I will post the shabads below. <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]><object classid="clsid:38481807-CA0E-42D2-BF39-B33AF135CC4D" id=ieooui></object> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]--> [/QUOTE]
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