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Why Is The Law Of Karma Rejected?
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<blockquote data-quote="Luckysingh" data-source="post: 179010" data-attributes="member: 16886"><p>Gurfateh Tejwant ji,</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Karma or karama as in punjabi, is the results of past actions. It is also the pre-ordained, such that your work and service as servant is pre-ordained.</p><p> </p><p>Karam is more so referenced to good deeds and actions.</p><p>We often hear that good karams lead to good karama.</p><p> </p><p>My own personal explanation of the system of actions/reactions..etc.. is in one of the earlier posts.</p><p><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/controversies/39975-why-is-the-law-karma-rejected-2.html#post178734" target="_blank">http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/controversies/39975-why-is-the-law-karma-rejected-2.html#post178734</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>I don't want to go off topic here, but firstly if we realise that ALL is him.</p><p> </p><p>Therefore what I do, how I behave, how you walk is <strong>ALL HIM.</strong></p><p>Keeping this in mind, we know of Hukam, the divine will.</p><p> </p><p><u>Because it is<strong> ALL</strong> him and <strong>ALL </strong>in his control</u> !</p><p> </p><p><em>However, under the same banner or umbrella of hukam is <strong>'free-will'.</strong></em></p><p> </p><p>This is the ability and control that HE has given us.</p><p> </p><p>Similar to when you give some one your car to drive, it is still yours.</p><p> You are still the owner, the decision maker of when you sell it/service...etc.. </p><p>But the driver is driving under your permission and kindness ! </p><p>He may have the keys and go whatever direction he chooses, but you can set the boundaries in terms of distance and time.</p><p>You still own the keys in is hands.</p><p> </p><p>A little like how God gives us free will to make the choice whether to be gurmat or Not, whether to Devote to Him OR Not........</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Importantly, Hukam and free will <strong>DO NOT</strong> go side by side, but freewill is itelf governed by the One Divine Hukam, and therfore comes under and below it, like everything else.</p><p> </p><p>I tried to explain how these actions of freewill can determine the impact that karma can play on our lives earlier, although I'm not sure if that is how my expressions came out or got interpreted.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Totally agree and I had tried to mention very similar in previous posts.</p><p>Again, I'm not sure if I was clear enough??</p><p> </p><p><strong>Gurbani throughout tells us that a gurmukh and the word of the shabad can overide and supersede any affects of some so called karma.</strong></p><p>This is particularly important to 'pre-ordained' karma.</p><p> </p><p><strong>What do I mean by pre-ordained ?</strong></p><p><em>- I would say this is to say that we all come into this world in different scenarios and settings. At the very moment I was born in the west, another child was born in the slums in Africa. This child grew up begging for every meal and probably felt that he was dealt a bad hand when born!!</em></p><p><em><strong>WHY</strong> I was born here and him over there is <strong>ALL HIS PLAY</strong> and <strong>HUKAM.</strong></em></p><p><em>It has nothing to do with previous life -good or bad deeds because as I explained earlier, how would you diffentiate the real good and bad actions of an ANT ????</em></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><em>So this HUKAM and order of the Divine is pre-ordained let's say for explantions sake..</em></p><p><em>No one except him can answer WHY?</em></p><p>ONLY HE HAS THAT CONTROL !</p><p> </p><p>I am pretty certain this is what Guru Nanakji's message was<em>. </em></p><p> </p><p><em>So, to call this the pre-ordained karma that we can come with can help explain the actions carried out in our lives-</em></p><p>Such thatbeggar begs- receives food- survives- and -REPEAT...........</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Maybe my previous posts can make a little more sense with this summary.</p><p> </p><p>The shabad I quoted earlier on ang 2, japji sahib- is in my opinion mistranslated a little.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>When one looks at the complete shabad, you can see that Guruji talks about how one can only be liberated with true bhagti and devotion.</p><p>It's not the karma that contribute to salvation.</p><p>But it is the True devotion that supersedes any such pre-ordains.</p><p> </p><p>As many of us let the freewill actions and consequences ie. 'karma' decide our fate or qualifying for salvation.-</p><p> Guruji say's That that is not the case!!</p><p>-ONLY his grace can let us through that door!!</p><p> </p><p>Looking at 'karmi avai kapra, nadri mokh duar'</p><p>One recieves kapra or garments for the body by doing good deeds as compared to how the karam or deeds can NOT get one Mokh or salvation.</p><p>Entry through the door of salvation is obtained by his grace only.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>A Gurmukh is beyond and above any such laws of karma and karams-</strong></p><p><strong>If he/she uses the God given free-will to make the choice to submit to HIS Divine Hukam, then he/she is Gurmukh!!</strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Imagine that above us and above everything is this huge cloud of <<<<HUKAM>>>>> and His Divine Will.</p><p> </p><p>Underneath iit s all things that it governs like...-</p><p><<<<<< Create, Destroy, Birth, Death a...Freewill....etc...etc...>>>>>></p><p> </p><p>Now, as we will encounter different forms of creation/destruction, death...etc... We also have this little ability where 'Free-will' lets us make the choice.</p><p> BUT where the consequences place us to make this choice is governed directly by the Bigger <<<HUKAM>>> and ONLY he knows WHY !!</p><p> </p><p>We have the choice to either stay down in the smaller clouds and try and control them ?</p><p>This way we can have people trying to control and determine birth, death, create weather,..etc....etc.. </p><p> </p><p>ALL of these people will keep meddling with everything trying to get control, but the winner will ALWAYS be HIM with his DIVINE COMMAND !!</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>In a similar manner, we can also stay in these smaller clouds and keep meddling with the free-will and karma trying to accumulate as many positive karams as possible if One think's that is the answer !</p><p> </p><p>BUT, Guruji tells us that we won't get anywhere by submitting solely to this little cloud of free-will.</p><p> </p><p>But the Gurmukh will submit to the large and overpowering <<<<HUKAM>>>>.</p><p> </p><p>Make the right choice, don't let free-will conquer and strengthen your ego, haumai, acquisitons, power and wealth..etc..</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>ang 2 Japji Sahib</p><p> </p><p>ਸਾਚਾ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਸਾਚੁ ਨਾਇ ਭਾਖਿਆ ਭਾਉ ਅਪਾਰੁ ॥ </p><p>Sācẖā sāhib sācẖ nā▫e bẖākẖi▫ā bẖā▫o apār. </p><p>True is the Master, True is His Name-speak it with infinite love. </p><p></p><p> </p><p>ਆਖਹਿ ਮੰਗਹਿ ਦੇਹਿ ਦੇਹਿ ਦਾਤਿ ਕਰੇ ਦਾਤਾਰੁ ॥ </p><p>Ākẖahi mangahi ḏehi ḏehi ḏāṯ kare ḏāṯār. </p><p>People beg and pray, "Give to us, give to us", and the Great Giver gives His Gifts. </p><p></p><p> </p><p>ਫੇਰਿ ਕਿ ਅਗੈ ਰਖੀਐ ਜਿਤੁ ਦਿਸੈ ਦਰਬਾਰੁ ॥ </p><p>Fer kė agai rakẖī▫ai jiṯ ḏisai ḏarbār. </p><p>So what offering can we place before Him, by which we might see the Darbaar of His Court? </p><p></p><p> </p><p>ਮੁਹੌ ਕਿ ਬੋਲਣੁ ਬੋਲੀਐ ਜਿਤੁ ਸੁਣਿ ਧਰੇ ਪਿਆਰੁ ॥ </p><p>Muhou kė bolaṇ bolī▫ai jiṯ suṇ ḏẖare pi▫ār. </p><p>What words can we speak to evoke His Love? </p><p></p><p> </p><p>ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਵੇਲਾ ਸਚੁ ਨਾਉ ਵਡਿਆਈ ਵੀਚਾਰੁ ॥ </p><p>Amriṯ velā sacẖ nā▫o vadi▫ā▫ī vīcẖār. </p><p>In the Amrit Vaylaa, the ambrosial hours before dawn, chant the True Name, and contemplate His Glorious Greatness. </p><p></p><p> </p><p>ਕਰਮੀ ਆਵੈ ਕਪੜਾ ਨਦਰੀ ਮੋਖੁ ਦੁਆਰੁ ॥ </p><p>Karmī āvai kapṛā naḏrī mokẖ ḏu▫ār. </p><p>By the karma of past actions, the robe of this physical body is obtained. By His Grace, the Gate of Liberation is found. </p><p></p><p> </p><p>ਨਾਨਕ ਏਵੈ ਜਾਣੀਐ ਸਭੁ ਆਪੇ ਸਚਿਆਰੁ ॥੪॥ </p><p>Nānak evai jāṇī▫ai sabẖ āpe sacẖiār. ||4|| </p><p>O Nanak, know this well: the True One Himself is All. ||4|| </p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p>Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network <a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/controversies/39975-why-is-the-law-karma-rejected-3.html#post178882" target="_blank">http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/controversies/39975-why-is-the-law-karma-rejected-3.html#post178882</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/controversies/39975-why-is-the-law-karma-rejected-3.html#post178882" target="_blank">http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/controversies/39975-why-is-the-law-karma-rejected-3.html#post178882</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Luckysingh, post: 179010, member: 16886"] Gurfateh Tejwant ji, Karma or karama as in punjabi, is the results of past actions. It is also the pre-ordained, such that your work and service as servant is pre-ordained. Karam is more so referenced to good deeds and actions. We often hear that good karams lead to good karama. My own personal explanation of the system of actions/reactions..etc.. is in one of the earlier posts. [URL]http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/controversies/39975-why-is-the-law-karma-rejected-2.html#post178734[/URL] I don't want to go off topic here, but firstly if we realise that ALL is him. Therefore what I do, how I behave, how you walk is [B]ALL HIM.[/B] Keeping this in mind, we know of Hukam, the divine will. [U]Because it is[B] ALL[/B] him and [B]ALL [/B]in his control[/U] ! [I]However, under the same banner or umbrella of hukam is [B]'free-will'.[/B][/I] This is the ability and control that HE has given us. Similar to when you give some one your car to drive, it is still yours. You are still the owner, the decision maker of when you sell it/service...etc.. But the driver is driving under your permission and kindness ! He may have the keys and go whatever direction he chooses, but you can set the boundaries in terms of distance and time. You still own the keys in is hands. A little like how God gives us free will to make the choice whether to be gurmat or Not, whether to Devote to Him OR Not........ Importantly, Hukam and free will [B]DO NOT[/B] go side by side, but freewill is itelf governed by the One Divine Hukam, and therfore comes under and below it, like everything else. I tried to explain how these actions of freewill can determine the impact that karma can play on our lives earlier, although I'm not sure if that is how my expressions came out or got interpreted. Totally agree and I had tried to mention very similar in previous posts. Again, I'm not sure if I was clear enough?? [B]Gurbani throughout tells us that a gurmukh and the word of the shabad can overide and supersede any affects of some so called karma.[/B] This is particularly important to 'pre-ordained' karma. [B]What do I mean by pre-ordained ?[/B] [I]- I would say this is to say that we all come into this world in different scenarios and settings. At the very moment I was born in the west, another child was born in the slums in Africa. This child grew up begging for every meal and probably felt that he was dealt a bad hand when born!![/I] [I][B]WHY[/B] I was born here and him over there is [B]ALL HIS PLAY[/B] and [B]HUKAM.[/B][/I] [I]It has nothing to do with previous life -good or bad deeds because as I explained earlier, how would you diffentiate the real good and bad actions of an ANT ????[/I] [I]So this HUKAM and order of the Divine is pre-ordained let's say for explantions sake..[/I] [I]No one except him can answer WHY?[/I] ONLY HE HAS THAT CONTROL ! I am pretty certain this is what Guru Nanakji's message was[I]. [/I] [I]So, to call this the pre-ordained karma that we can come with can help explain the actions carried out in our lives-[/I] Such thatbeggar begs- receives food- survives- and -REPEAT........... Maybe my previous posts can make a little more sense with this summary. The shabad I quoted earlier on ang 2, japji sahib- is in my opinion mistranslated a little. When one looks at the complete shabad, you can see that Guruji talks about how one can only be liberated with true bhagti and devotion. It's not the karma that contribute to salvation. But it is the True devotion that supersedes any such pre-ordains. As many of us let the freewill actions and consequences ie. 'karma' decide our fate or qualifying for salvation.- Guruji say's That that is not the case!! -ONLY his grace can let us through that door!! Looking at 'karmi avai kapra, nadri mokh duar' One recieves kapra or garments for the body by doing good deeds as compared to how the karam or deeds can NOT get one Mokh or salvation. Entry through the door of salvation is obtained by his grace only. [B]A Gurmukh is beyond and above any such laws of karma and karams-[/B] [B]If he/she uses the God given free-will to make the choice to submit to HIS Divine Hukam, then he/she is Gurmukh!![/B] Imagine that above us and above everything is this huge cloud of <<<<HUKAM>>>>> and His Divine Will. Underneath iit s all things that it governs like...- <<<<<< Create, Destroy, Birth, Death a...Freewill....etc...etc...>>>>>> Now, as we will encounter different forms of creation/destruction, death...etc... We also have this little ability where 'Free-will' lets us make the choice. BUT where the consequences place us to make this choice is governed directly by the Bigger <<<HUKAM>>> and ONLY he knows WHY !! We have the choice to either stay down in the smaller clouds and try and control them ? This way we can have people trying to control and determine birth, death, create weather,..etc....etc.. ALL of these people will keep meddling with everything trying to get control, but the winner will ALWAYS be HIM with his DIVINE COMMAND !! In a similar manner, we can also stay in these smaller clouds and keep meddling with the free-will and karma trying to accumulate as many positive karams as possible if One think's that is the answer ! BUT, Guruji tells us that we won't get anywhere by submitting solely to this little cloud of free-will. But the Gurmukh will submit to the large and overpowering <<<<HUKAM>>>>. Make the right choice, don't let free-will conquer and strengthen your ego, haumai, acquisitons, power and wealth..etc.. ang 2 Japji Sahib ਸਾਚਾ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਸਾਚੁ ਨਾਇ ਭਾਖਿਆ ਭਾਉ ਅਪਾਰੁ ॥ Sācẖā sāhib sācẖ nā▫e bẖākẖi▫ā bẖā▫o apār. True is the Master, True is His Name-speak it with infinite love. ਆਖਹਿ ਮੰਗਹਿ ਦੇਹਿ ਦੇਹਿ ਦਾਤਿ ਕਰੇ ਦਾਤਾਰੁ ॥ Ākẖahi mangahi ḏehi ḏehi ḏāṯ kare ḏāṯār. People beg and pray, "Give to us, give to us", and the Great Giver gives His Gifts. ਫੇਰਿ ਕਿ ਅਗੈ ਰਖੀਐ ਜਿਤੁ ਦਿਸੈ ਦਰਬਾਰੁ ॥ Fer kė agai rakẖī▫ai jiṯ ḏisai ḏarbār. So what offering can we place before Him, by which we might see the Darbaar of His Court? ਮੁਹੌ ਕਿ ਬੋਲਣੁ ਬੋਲੀਐ ਜਿਤੁ ਸੁਣਿ ਧਰੇ ਪਿਆਰੁ ॥ Muhou kė bolaṇ bolī▫ai jiṯ suṇ ḏẖare pi▫ār. What words can we speak to evoke His Love? ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਵੇਲਾ ਸਚੁ ਨਾਉ ਵਡਿਆਈ ਵੀਚਾਰੁ ॥ Amriṯ velā sacẖ nā▫o vadi▫ā▫ī vīcẖār. In the Amrit Vaylaa, the ambrosial hours before dawn, chant the True Name, and contemplate His Glorious Greatness. ਕਰਮੀ ਆਵੈ ਕਪੜਾ ਨਦਰੀ ਮੋਖੁ ਦੁਆਰੁ ॥ Karmī āvai kapṛā naḏrī mokẖ ḏu▫ār. By the karma of past actions, the robe of this physical body is obtained. By His Grace, the Gate of Liberation is found. ਨਾਨਕ ਏਵੈ ਜਾਣੀਐ ਸਭੁ ਆਪੇ ਸਚਿਆਰੁ ॥੪॥ Nānak evai jāṇī▫ai sabẖ āpe sacẖiār. ||4|| O Nanak, know this well: the True One Himself is All. ||4|| Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network [URL]http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/controversies/39975-why-is-the-law-karma-rejected-3.html#post178882[/URL] [URL]http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/controversies/39975-why-is-the-law-karma-rejected-3.html#post178882[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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