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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Sinister" data-source="post: 61982" data-attributes="member: 2684"><p><span style="color: red">There is nothing I dislike about religion more than the labeling children with their parent's religion (your (probably) not a child, of course, but you still are only Sikh because of your family</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">--Saim</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">I can assure you that I am not a child (but what defines a child?) </span><strong><u>Now if you had any conception of social theory as to why children adopt their parents faith you would not "dislike" this social fact but "understand" why it happens! (more or less be neutral)</u></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><u>religion is not blame for this labelling but societal organization and parents themsleves</u></strong></p><p> </p><p>from a pure darwinian explanation children are a continuation of the parent species (with slight modification of course). A parent will always think for the benefit of his/her progeny as this is the marker that denotes succession of genetic material (and remember human parents make extreme energy commitments to the rearing process, thus success is wanted). </p><p> </p><p>Participating the child in a religious social environment increases the level of security a parent feels. <span style="color: navy">This participation is a process through which a child meets new people, makes contacts, makes freinds, etc etc.</span> This active involvement of children in a social setting ensures their survival in an increasingly polarized and competitive environment. <span style="color: navy">Which is why a parent would push a child into religion, sports or any other social setting</span>.</p><p> </p><p>(nowhere is this more true than in multicultural society's where ethnic minorities routinely form "ethnic enclaves"). Please read up on this. </p><p> </p><p>The parents feel that introducing the child into a religious setting increases the likely-hood of progeny survival. In the end we are a social species and flock towards groups whenever we get the oppurtunity (because they are alway beneficial). You cannot really push your kids into atheism because there is no large mainstream atheistic organization...thus no benefit...which I personally beleive is a shame. </p><p> </p><p>ties built on community commitment are beneficial to the individual. The community itself can organize and form a politcal organization (which is the case with sikhs in India, america, canada, uk and around the world). This ensures community survival <span style="color: navy"><strong>(perpetuation of organization and continous benefit of membership).</strong></span></p><p> </p><p>(this however is a more macro study of group formation).</p><p> </p><p>PS:</p><p>an agnostic to an atheist:</p><p><span style="color: navy"><u><strong>try to understand before you critique and throw out a knee-jerk opinion.</strong></u></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sinister, post: 61982, member: 2684"] [COLOR=red]There is nothing I dislike about religion more than the labeling children with their parent's religion (your (probably) not a child, of course, but you still are only Sikh because of your family[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000]--Saim[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]I can assure you that I am not a child (but what defines a child?) [/COLOR][B][U]Now if you had any conception of social theory as to why children adopt their parents faith you would not "dislike" this social fact but "understand" why it happens! (more or less be neutral)[/U][/B] [B][U]religion is not blame for this labelling but societal organization and parents themsleves[/U][/B] from a pure darwinian explanation children are a continuation of the parent species (with slight modification of course). A parent will always think for the benefit of his/her progeny as this is the marker that denotes succession of genetic material (and remember human parents make extreme energy commitments to the rearing process, thus success is wanted). Participating the child in a religious social environment increases the level of security a parent feels. [COLOR=navy]This participation is a process through which a child meets new people, makes contacts, makes freinds, etc etc.[/COLOR] This active involvement of children in a social setting ensures their survival in an increasingly polarized and competitive environment. [COLOR=navy]Which is why a parent would push a child into religion, sports or any other social setting[/COLOR]. (nowhere is this more true than in multicultural society's where ethnic minorities routinely form "ethnic enclaves"). Please read up on this. The parents feel that introducing the child into a religious setting increases the likely-hood of progeny survival. In the end we are a social species and flock towards groups whenever we get the oppurtunity (because they are alway beneficial). You cannot really push your kids into atheism because there is no large mainstream atheistic organization...thus no benefit...which I personally beleive is a shame. ties built on community commitment are beneficial to the individual. The community itself can organize and form a politcal organization (which is the case with sikhs in India, america, canada, uk and around the world). This ensures community survival [COLOR=navy][B](perpetuation of organization and continous benefit of membership).[/B][/COLOR] (this however is a more macro study of group formation). PS: an agnostic to an atheist: [COLOR=navy][U][B]try to understand before you critique and throw out a knee-jerk opinion.[/B][/U][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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