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<blockquote data-quote="pk70" data-source="post: 82426" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>(quote Honey22)</p><p> <strong><span style="color: #333333">Originally Posted by <strong>PK70</strong> </span></strong></p><p> <strong><em><span style="color: #333333"><a href="http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/666-guru-granth-sahib-history-arrangements-text.html" target="_blank">(Guru Granth Sahib - The History, Arrangements and Text)</a><a href="http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/666-guru-granth-sahib-history-arrangements-text.html" target="_blank">Guru Granth</a><a href="http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/666-guru-granth-sahib-history-arrangements-text.html" target="_blank"> (Guru Granth Sahib - The History, Arrangements and Text)<span style="color: #339966"> Sahib is not Lord but medium of Lord.</span></a></span></em></strong></p><p> </p><p>PK70 JI,</p><p></p><p>A suggestion to you from an old veer of yours: Read Dhan <a href="http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/666-guru-granth-sahib-history-arrangements-text.html" target="_blank">Guru Granth</a> Sahib Ji, then follow each teaching yourself.\</p><p> </p><p> <strong> With all due respect, How do you imagine that others than you do not read Guru Granth Sahib Ji? There are some usages in there and some curious members ask questions about them, is it against Guru Granth Sahib ji to answer them? Or is it right way to snub them by saying “do not play game of logic?” That is not what Guru Granth Sahib inspires. No body ever could have seen glittering beautiful stars without opening eyes or without clear sky.</strong></p><p> </p><p> Only after that make an effort to explain the ULTIMATE TRUTH to others.</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Who am I to explain Ultimate Truth? That was not even subject of my post. Why imaginary ideas are disturbing you? Who is “Sahib” in your quote assigned to my Id in green words above? There is only one Sahib, rest is His manifestation(.</strong><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਿਸ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%85" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੀਅ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਰਾਣ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਹਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%89" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਿਉ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਾਹਿਬੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਨਹੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%90" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਿਸਾਰੀਐ</span> </a></span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">)</span></span></p><p> <strong> When “Sahib “used for Guru, it is sheer honor, fourth Nanak clearly states” if some one respect me it is your praise O Lord, not mine” Guru ji has shown a path to the Ultimate Truth, and we become hindrance in others efforts when we just like to mock at others or reduce ourselves to worship only medium and start shutting up others who like to prepare themselves before walking on the path.. First Mehal broke all chains of superficial worshiping of Sargun Form and freed us to contemplate on HIM only. Why new idea is cooked up? Guru kee pooja and Guru kee Seva is living Guru’s teachings, it has nothing to do with ritual Seva or worshipping.</strong></p><p> Otherwise you will be misleading others. Just a suggestion.</p><p> Guru Ji suggest not to do the wrong deeds:</p><p> <strong>Honey 22 ji, I am not here to lead any one, what to speak of misleading; wrong deed is that which comes out of imagination, Gurbani is revealed, without understanding it, there is no chance of progression. Guru needs to understand before worshiping the Guru otherwise boat will be drowned right at the start.” Naam Japavo” to whom? Who do not understand “Naam” By merely saying” Naam Japo” no one can say” Guru ji’s” advice is put in practice. Even read Guru ji's Shabad how step by step Guru ji elobrate routine of a Gursikh. Have you forgot" Gun Vaddiaaeean Vichaar"?</strong></p><p><strong>[/FONT]</strong><strong>Now let’s look at Guru ji’s advice as per your quote</strong></p><p> [/FONT] <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਲਾਮੁ ਜਬਾਬੁ ਦੋਵੈ ਕਰੇ ਮੁੰਢਹੁ ਘੁਥਾ ਜਾਇ </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p><span style="color: black">salaam jabaab dhovai karae mundtahu ghuthhaa jaae ||</span></p><p><span style="color: black">One who offers both respectful greetings and rude refusal to his master, has gone wrong from the very beginning.</span></p><p> <strong><span style="color: black">Here Guru ji is talking about “AkaalPurakh’s Hukm” If as per His Hukm, good things come, persons are happy but when bad happens, they complain, that is called” disobeying Akaal Purakh” So if one claims to be His Daas( Servant) and keep complaining about what happens under His Ordinance, such persons are wrong right from the beginning because how such people can develop true love/unconditional love for HIM. Where are you applying this Guru Vaak Veer ji?</span></strong></p><p><strong></strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਨਕ ਦੋਵੈ ਕੂੜੀਆ ਥਾਇ ਨ ਕਾਈ ਪਾਇ </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੨</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p><span style="color: black">naanak dhovai koorreeaa thhaae n kaaee paae ||2||</span></p><p><span style="color: black">O Nanak, both of his actions are false; he obtains no place in the Court of the Lord. ||2||</span></p><p> <strong><span style="color: black">So hint is at hypocrisy, saying I believe in His Ordinance but keep complaining. Saying I follow Guru but keep complaining” I do simran but why I am not rewarded …”Such persons, as per Guru ji, has no chance to find a place in Court of Sahib.</span></strong></p><p><strong></strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਉੜੀ </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p><span style="color: black">pourree ||</span></p><p><span style="color: black">Pauree:</span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਿਤੁ ਸੇਵਿਐ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਈਐ ਸੋ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਸਦਾ ਸਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਾਲੀਐ </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p><span style="color: black">jith saeviai sukh paaeeai so saahib sadhaa samhaaleeai ||</span></p><p><span style="color: black">Serving Him, peace is obtained; meditate and dwell upon that Lord and Master forever.</span></p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color: black">WHO is Sahib here? Akaal Purakh. Where is any thing that is against this advice in my post?</span></strong></p><p><strong></strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਿਤੁ ਕੀਤਾ ਪਾਈਐ ਆਪਣਾ ਸਾ ਘਾਲ ਬੁਰੀ ਕਿਉ ਘਾਲੀਐ </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p><span style="color: black">jith keethaa paaeeai aapanaa saa ghaal buree kio ghaaleeai ||</span></p><p><span style="color: black">Why do you do such evil deeds, that you shall have to suffer so?</span></p><p> <strong><span style="color: black">Here advice has vast application: Why one should not do bad deeds since they will bring that back to us. What I have done wrong Honey 22 ji? Is it because I did not write” Dhan Dhan Guru Granth Sahib?” Or I haven’t called Guru Granth Sahib ji GOD</span></strong><span style="color: black">?</span></p><p> <strong><span style="color: black">By merely saying”dhan dhan Guru Granth Sahib ji” doesn’t mean one is showing more respect to Guru ji, it comes down to how much one obeys Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Honey 22 jio!</span></strong></p><p><strong></strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮੰਦਾ ਮੂਲਿ ਨ ਕੀਚਈ ਦੇ ਲੰਮੀ ਨਦਰਿ ਨਿਹਾਲੀਐ </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p><span style="color: black">mandhaa mool n keechee dhae lanmee nadhar nihaaleeai ||</span></p><p><span style="color: black">Do not do any evil at all; look ahead to the future with foresight.</span></p><p> <strong><span style="color: black">Again, seekers are advised to stay on virtuous path, that is why we need Guru since Guru ji prepares us for Ultimate Truth. Understanding Guru teachings is very important.[/FONT]</span></strong></p><p><strong>[/FONT]<span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਿਉ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨਾਲਿ ਨ ਹਾਰੀਐ ਤੇਵੇਹਾ ਪਾਸਾ ਢਾਲੀਐ </span></span><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: red"> [/FONT]</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">jio saahib naal n haareeai thaevaehaa paasaa dtaaleeai ||</span></strong></p><p> [/FONT] <strong><span style="color: red">jio saahib naal n haareeai thaevaehaa paasaa dtaaleeai ||</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">So throw the dice in such a way, that you shall not lose with your Lord and Master.</span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: black">Here translation is way away from Guru Message.</span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: black">Sahib= Akaal Purakh, Hareeai= should not fail. Teveha= same way as it comes. Dhalleeai= mould mind according to His will. </span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: black"> Guru ji says that there are given test( His Ordinance)s to us, we should pass them, whatever way HE keeps us, happily we should accept that and never question HIM, questioning His ordinance will lead us to defeat</span></strong><span style="color: black">.<strong> Never think we are playing dice with Him to defeat Him <u>as translator claims</u>. This Guru Vaak is in aligning to the First Guru Vaak.</strong></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"></span></p><p><span style="color: black"></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਿਛੁ ਲਾਹੇ ਉਪਰਿ ਘਾਲੀਐ </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੨੧</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p><span style="color: black">kishh laahae oupar ghaaleeai ||21||</span></p><p><span style="color: black">Do those deeds which shall bring you profit. ||21||</span></p><p><strong>Here deeds are considered profitable spiritually, means being in love with Him and literally live in His love, will bring rewards of His realization ( if He bestows His grace) since all “mannmatt” makes us losers.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>When a person is on the wrong path:</p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਰਿ ਕੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਨ ਦੇਖੈ ਜਾਇ </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p><span style="color: black">har kee bhagath n dhaekhai jaae ||</span></p><p><span style="color: black">He does not go to see where the Lord is being worshipped.</span></p><p> <strong><span style="color: black">Hint is about “sadh Sangat” because stray person gets involved in other company where satisfying of mind's preferences are priority</span></strong></p><p><strong></strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮਾਰਗੁ ਛੋਡਿ ਅਮਾਰਗਿ ਪਾਇ </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p> <span style="color: black">maarag shhodd amaarag paae ||</span></p><p><span style="color: black">He abandons the Lord's Path, and takes the wrong path.</span></p><p><strong><span style="color: black">So such person leaves True path and get involved in wrong one.</span></strong></p><p><strong></strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮੂਲਹੁ ਭੂਲਾ ਆਵੈ ਜਾਇ </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p><span style="color: black">moolahu bhoolaa aavai jaae ||</span></p><p><span style="color: black">He forgets the Primal Lord God, and is caught in the cycle of reincarnation.</span></p><p> <strong><span style="color: black">That is the end the stray person meets, remains in duality and cycles.</span></strong></p><p><strong></strong><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਡਾਰਿ ਲਾਦਿ ਬਿਖੁ ਖਾਇ </span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੨</span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span> </p><p><span style="color: black">anmrith ddaar laadh bikh khaae ||2||</span></p><p><span style="color: black">He throws away the Ambrosial Nectar, and gathers poison to eat. ||2||</span></p><p> <strong><span style="color: black">Choosing personal preferences over His Simran/Love keeps him in misery.</span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: black">My question to you,, why have you quoted this shabad? What is an application of it here in context of my post? If you knew, you wouldn’t have quoted it because I just tried to explain that Guru ji is medium, how it makes you think that I am doing all the above and you need to awake me from my slumber after reading my post? <u>Problem is very simple, instead of understanding Guru Shabad, it has become a fashion for some Sikhs just to quote Gurbani. That itself shows how desperately they need Guru ji’s help.</u></span></strong></p><p> Honey 22, you have given your advice in four sentence</p><p> 1.Inspire Others' to Read Gurbani</p><p> <strong>Sikh 80 put a question, you just snubbed him, was that your effort to inspire him to read Gurbani as you boasts about?</strong></p><p>Inspire Others to take Guru's Advice</p><p> <strong>What Guru ji’s advice you have given, you have quoted a shabad without any context. Talking and living are two totally opposite practices, one is shallow the later is full with decorating truth.</strong></p><p>Inspire Others to develop True Devotion</p><p> <strong>Elaborate it, what is true devotion? May be numerous SPN members do not know about it yet? If studying Gurbani and trying to follow it by practicing is not enough, what is left out in this regard then, please enlighten us, teach us with your wonderful experience.</strong></p><p><strong></strong>Inspire Others to Walk the Path</p><p> <strong>Namjap ji Humbly asked you very simple questions, why couldn’t you elaborate your views about” the path” That was best chance to quote Guru Bachan. Your next quote of Guru Shabad has been copied and pasted without any context. Gurbani is Guru, living Gurbani is a true way of accepting Gurbani as Guru. </strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pk70, post: 82426, member: 5889"] (quote Honey22) [B][COLOR=#333333]Originally Posted by [B]PK70[/B] [/COLOR][/B] [B][I][COLOR=#333333][URL="http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/666-guru-granth-sahib-history-arrangements-text.html"](Guru Granth Sahib - The History, Arrangements and Text)[/URL][URL="http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/666-guru-granth-sahib-history-arrangements-text.html"]Guru Granth[/URL][URL="http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/666-guru-granth-sahib-history-arrangements-text.html"] (Guru Granth Sahib - The History, Arrangements and Text)[COLOR=#339966] Sahib is not Lord but medium of Lord.[/COLOR][/URL][/COLOR][/I][/B] PK70 JI, A suggestion to you from an old veer of yours: Read Dhan [URL="http://www.sikhism.us/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/666-guru-granth-sahib-history-arrangements-text.html"]Guru Granth[/URL] Sahib Ji, then follow each teaching yourself.\ [B] With all due respect, How do you imagine that others than you do not read Guru Granth Sahib Ji? There are some usages in there and some curious members ask questions about them, is it against Guru Granth Sahib ji to answer them? Or is it right way to snub them by saying “do not play game of logic?” That is not what Guru Granth Sahib inspires. No body ever could have seen glittering beautiful stars without opening eyes or without clear sky.[/B] Only after that make an effort to explain the ULTIMATE TRUTH to others. [B]Who am I to explain Ultimate Truth? That was not even subject of my post. Why imaginary ideas are disturbing you? Who is “Sahib” in your quote assigned to my Id in green words above? There is only one Sahib, rest is His manifestation(.[/B][COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਿਸ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਕੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%85"][FONT=Raavi]ਜੀਅ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਰਾਣ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਹਹਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%89"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਿਉ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਾਹਿਬੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਮਨਹੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%90"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਿਸਾਰੀਐ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=AnmolUniPr])[/FONT][/COLOR] [B] When “Sahib “used for Guru, it is sheer honor, fourth Nanak clearly states” if some one respect me it is your praise O Lord, not mine” Guru ji has shown a path to the Ultimate Truth, and we become hindrance in others efforts when we just like to mock at others or reduce ourselves to worship only medium and start shutting up others who like to prepare themselves before walking on the path.. First Mehal broke all chains of superficial worshiping of Sargun Form and freed us to contemplate on HIM only. Why new idea is cooked up? Guru kee pooja and Guru kee Seva is living Guru’s teachings, it has nothing to do with ritual Seva or worshipping.[/B] Otherwise you will be misleading others. Just a suggestion. Guru Ji suggest not to do the wrong deeds: [B]Honey 22 ji, I am not here to lead any one, what to speak of misleading; wrong deed is that which comes out of imagination, Gurbani is revealed, without understanding it, there is no chance of progression. Guru needs to understand before worshiping the Guru otherwise boat will be drowned right at the start.” Naam Japavo” to whom? Who do not understand “Naam” By merely saying” Naam Japo” no one can say” Guru ji’s” advice is put in practice. Even read Guru ji's Shabad how step by step Guru ji elobrate routine of a Gursikh. Have you forgot" Gun Vaddiaaeean Vichaar"? [/FONT][/B][B]Now let’s look at Guru ji’s advice as per your quote[/B] [/FONT] [COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਸਲਾਮੁ ਜਬਾਬੁ ਦੋਵੈ ਕਰੇ ਮੁੰਢਹੁ ਘੁਥਾ ਜਾਇ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]salaam jabaab dhovai karae mundtahu ghuthhaa jaae ||[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]One who offers both respectful greetings and rude refusal to his master, has gone wrong from the very beginning.[/COLOR] [B][COLOR=black]Here Guru ji is talking about “AkaalPurakh’s Hukm” If as per His Hukm, good things come, persons are happy but when bad happens, they complain, that is called” disobeying Akaal Purakh” So if one claims to be His Daas( Servant) and keep complaining about what happens under His Ordinance, such persons are wrong right from the beginning because how such people can develop true love/unconditional love for HIM. Where are you applying this Guru Vaak Veer ji?[/COLOR] [/B][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਨਕ ਦੋਵੈ ਕੂੜੀਆ ਥਾਇ ਨ ਕਾਈ ਪਾਇ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]੨[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]naanak dhovai koorreeaa thhaae n kaaee paae ||2||[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]O Nanak, both of his actions are false; he obtains no place in the Court of the Lord. ||2||[/COLOR] [B][COLOR=black]So hint is at hypocrisy, saying I believe in His Ordinance but keep complaining. Saying I follow Guru but keep complaining” I do simran but why I am not rewarded …”Such persons, as per Guru ji, has no chance to find a place in Court of Sahib.[/COLOR] [/B][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਪਉੜੀ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]pourree ||[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Pauree:[/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਜਿਤੁ ਸੇਵਿਐ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਈਐ ਸੋ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਸਦਾ ਸਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਾਲੀਐ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]jith saeviai sukh paaeeai so saahib sadhaa samhaaleeai ||[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Serving Him, peace is obtained; meditate and dwell upon that Lord and Master forever.[/COLOR] [COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [B][COLOR=black]WHO is Sahib here? Akaal Purakh. Where is any thing that is against this advice in my post?[/COLOR] [/B][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਜਿਤੁ ਕੀਤਾ ਪਾਈਐ ਆਪਣਾ ਸਾ ਘਾਲ ਬੁਰੀ ਕਿਉ ਘਾਲੀਐ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]jith keethaa paaeeai aapanaa saa ghaal buree kio ghaaleeai ||[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Why do you do such evil deeds, that you shall have to suffer so?[/COLOR] [B][COLOR=black]Here advice has vast application: Why one should not do bad deeds since they will bring that back to us. What I have done wrong Honey 22 ji? Is it because I did not write” Dhan Dhan Guru Granth Sahib?” Or I haven’t called Guru Granth Sahib ji GOD[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=black]?[/COLOR] [B][COLOR=black]By merely saying”dhan dhan Guru Granth Sahib ji” doesn’t mean one is showing more respect to Guru ji, it comes down to how much one obeys Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Honey 22 jio![/COLOR] [/B][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਮੰਦਾ ਮੂਲਿ ਨ ਕੀਚਈ ਦੇ ਲੰਮੀ ਨਦਰਿ ਨਿਹਾਲੀਐ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]mandhaa mool n keechee dhae lanmee nadhar nihaaleeai ||[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Do not do any evil at all; look ahead to the future with foresight.[/COLOR] [B][COLOR=black]Again, seekers are advised to stay on virtuous path, that is why we need Guru since Guru ji prepares us for Ultimate Truth. Understanding Guru teachings is very important.[/FONT][/COLOR] [/FONT][COLOR=red][FONT=Raavi]ਜਿਉ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨਾਲਿ ਨ ਹਾਰੀਐ ਤੇਵੇਹਾ ਪਾਸਾ ਢਾਲੀਐ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red] [/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=red]jio saahib naal n haareeai thaevaehaa paasaa dtaaleeai ||[/COLOR][/B] [/FONT] [B][COLOR=red]jio saahib naal n haareeai thaevaehaa paasaa dtaaleeai ||[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=red]So throw the dice in such a way, that you shall not lose with your Lord and Master.[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=black]Here translation is way away from Guru Message.[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=black]Sahib= Akaal Purakh, Hareeai= should not fail. Teveha= same way as it comes. Dhalleeai= mould mind according to His will. [/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=black] Guru ji says that there are given test( His Ordinance)s to us, we should pass them, whatever way HE keeps us, happily we should accept that and never question HIM, questioning His ordinance will lead us to defeat[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=black].[B] Never think we are playing dice with Him to defeat Him [U]as translator claims[/U]. This Guru Vaak is in aligning to the First Guru Vaak.[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=black] [/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਕਿਛੁ ਲਾਹੇ ਉਪਰਿ ਘਾਲੀਐ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]੨੧[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]kishh laahae oupar ghaaleeai ||21||[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Do those deeds which shall bring you profit. ||21||[/COLOR] [B]Here deeds are considered profitable spiritually, means being in love with Him and literally live in His love, will bring rewards of His realization ( if He bestows His grace) since all “mannmatt” makes us losers. [/B] When a person is on the wrong path: [COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਹਰਿ ਕੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਨ ਦੇਖੈ ਜਾਇ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]har kee bhagath n dhaekhai jaae ||[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]He does not go to see where the Lord is being worshipped.[/COLOR] [B][COLOR=black]Hint is about “sadh Sangat” because stray person gets involved in other company where satisfying of mind's preferences are priority[/COLOR] [/B][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਮਾਰਗੁ ਛੋਡਿ ਅਮਾਰਗਿ ਪਾਇ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black] [/COLOR][COLOR=black][/COLOR] [COLOR=black]maarag shhodd amaarag paae ||[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]He abandons the Lord's Path, and takes the wrong path.[/COLOR] [B][COLOR=black]So such person leaves True path and get involved in wrong one.[/COLOR] [/B][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਮੂਲਹੁ ਭੂਲਾ ਆਵੈ ਜਾਇ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]moolahu bhoolaa aavai jaae ||[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]He forgets the Primal Lord God, and is caught in the cycle of reincarnation.[/COLOR] [B][COLOR=black]That is the end the stray person meets, remains in duality and cycles.[/COLOR] [/B][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਡਾਰਿ ਲਾਦਿ ਬਿਖੁ ਖਾਇ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Raavi]੨[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]anmrith ddaar laadh bikh khaae ||2||[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]He throws away the Ambrosial Nectar, and gathers poison to eat. ||2||[/COLOR] [B][COLOR=black]Choosing personal preferences over His Simran/Love keeps him in misery.[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=black]My question to you,, why have you quoted this shabad? What is an application of it here in context of my post? If you knew, you wouldn’t have quoted it because I just tried to explain that Guru ji is medium, how it makes you think that I am doing all the above and you need to awake me from my slumber after reading my post? [U]Problem is very simple, instead of understanding Guru Shabad, it has become a fashion for some Sikhs just to quote Gurbani. That itself shows how desperately they need Guru ji’s help.[/U][/COLOR][/B] Honey 22, you have given your advice in four sentence 1.Inspire Others' to Read Gurbani [B]Sikh 80 put a question, you just snubbed him, was that your effort to inspire him to read Gurbani as you boasts about?[/B] Inspire Others to take Guru's Advice [B]What Guru ji’s advice you have given, you have quoted a shabad without any context. Talking and living are two totally opposite practices, one is shallow the later is full with decorating truth.[/B] Inspire Others to develop True Devotion [B]Elaborate it, what is true devotion? May be numerous SPN members do not know about it yet? If studying Gurbani and trying to follow it by practicing is not enough, what is left out in this regard then, please enlighten us, teach us with your wonderful experience. [/B]Inspire Others to Walk the Path [B]Namjap ji Humbly asked you very simple questions, why couldn’t you elaborate your views about” the path” That was best chance to quote Guru Bachan. Your next quote of Guru Shabad has been copied and pasted without any context. Gurbani is Guru, living Gurbani is a true way of accepting Gurbani as Guru. [/B] [/QUOTE]
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