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Who Can Describe God?
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<blockquote data-quote="AmbarDhara" data-source="post: 73471" data-attributes="member: 5661"><p><strong>Who can Describe God?</strong></p><p> </p><p><strong>NO ONE.</strong></p><p> </p><p>Guru Nanak Dev Ji declared this in Japji Sahib. Knowing God is totally a different kind of experience than actually making an effort to describe Him. Gurbani claims knowing God, but we are told again and again that no one can describe it even after knowing. To know God one has to become Guru-Oriented. </p><p> </p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #ff00ff">Nanak Bani Nirankaar Paarbrahm Parmesar</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #ff00ff">Waho Waho Bani Nirankaar Hai Tis Jevad Avar Na Koi</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: fuchsia"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ANG 2</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: fuchsia"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">SGGS JI</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: fuchsia"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">SATGURU PRASAAD</span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">ਥਾਪਿਆ ਨ ਜਾਇ ਕੀਤਾ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥ </span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">thhaapiaa n jaae keethaa n hoe ||</span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">He cannot be established, He cannot be created.</span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">ਆਪੇ ਆਪਿ ਨਿਰੰਜਨੁ ਸੋਇ ॥ </span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">aapae aap niranjan soe ||</span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">He Himself is Immaculate and Pure.</span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">ਜਿਨਿ ਸੇਵਿਆ ਤਿਨਿ ਪਾਇਆ ਮਾਨੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">jin saeviaa thin paaeiaa maan ||</span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">Those who serve Him are honored.</span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">ਨਾਨਕ ਗਾਵੀਐ ਗੁਣੀ ਨਿਧਾਨੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">naanak gaaveeai gunee nidhhaan ||</span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">O Nanak, sing of the Lord, the Treasure of Excellence.</span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">ਗਾਵੀਐ ਸੁਣੀਐ ਮਨਿ ਰਖੀਐ ਭਾਉ ॥ </span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">gaaveeai suneeai man rakheeai bhaao ||</span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">Sing, and listen, and let your mind be filled with love.</span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">ਦੁਖੁ ਪਰਹਰਿ ਸੁਖੁ ਘਰਿ ਲੈ ਜਾਇ ॥ </span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">dhukh parehar sukh ghar lai jaae ||</span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">Your pain shall be sent far away, and peace shall come to your home.</span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਨਾਦੰ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਵੇਦੰ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਰਹਿਆ ਸਮਾਈ ॥ </span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">guramukh naadhan guramukh vaedhan guramukh rehiaa samaaee ||</span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">The Guru's Word is the Sound-current of the Naad; the Guru's Word is the Wisdom of the Vedas; the Guru's Word is all-pervading.</span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">ਗੁਰੁ ਈਸਰੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਗੋਰਖੁ ਬਰਮਾ ਗੁਰੁ ਪਾਰਬਤੀ ਮਾਈ ॥ </span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">gur eesar gur gorakh baramaa gur paarabathee maaee ||</span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">The Guru is Shiva, the Guru is Vishnu and Brahma; the Guru is Paarvati and Lakhshmi.</span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><strong><u><span style="color: purple">ਜੇ ਹਉ ਜਾਣਾ ਆਖਾ ਨਾਹੀ ਕਹਣਾ ਕਥਨੁ ਨ ਜਾਈ ॥ </span></u></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><u><span style="color: purple">jae ho jaanaa aakhaa naahee kehanaa kathhan n jaaee ||</span></u></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong><u><span style="color: purple">Even knowing God, I cannot describe Him; He cannot be described in words.</span></u></strong></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">ਗੁਰਾ ਇਕ ਦੇਹਿ ਬੁਝਾਈ ॥ </span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">guraa eik dhaehi bujhaaee ||</span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">The Guru has given me this one understanding:</span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">ਸਭਨਾ ਜੀਆ ਕਾ ਇਕੁ ਦਾਤਾ ਸੋ ਮੈ ਵਿਸਰਿ ਨ ਜਾਈ ॥੫॥ </span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">sabhanaa jeeaa kaa eik dhaathaa so mai visar n jaaee ||5||</span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">there is only the One, the Giver of all souls. May I never forget Him! ||5||</span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #ff00ff">Gurbani eis jag meh chaanan</span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #ff00ff">Gurbani har alakh lakhiayaa</span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: fuchsia"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Gurbani Gavo Bhaee</span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: fuchsia"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">charan kamal para<u>bh</u> kay ni<u>t</u> <u>Dh</u>i-aava-o</span></span></span></span></span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: black">Guru Ji tells us He alone knows Himself.</span></span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 12px">Brahmgyani Ki gat Brahmgyani Jaaney<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AmbarDhara, post: 73471, member: 5661"] [B]Who can Describe God?[/B] [B]NO ONE.[/B] Guru Nanak Dev Ji declared this in Japji Sahib. Knowing God is totally a different kind of experience than actually making an effort to describe Him. Gurbani claims knowing God, but we are told again and again that no one can describe it even after knowing. To know God one has to become Guru-Oriented. [CENTER][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#ff00ff]Nanak Bani Nirankaar Paarbrahm Parmesar[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#ff00ff]Waho Waho Bani Nirankaar Hai Tis Jevad Avar Na Koi[/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=fuchsia][FONT=Tahoma]ANG 2[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=fuchsia][FONT=Tahoma]SGGS JI[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=fuchsia][FONT=Tahoma]SATGURU PRASAAD[/FONT][/COLOR][/CENTER] [CENTER][COLOR=purple]ਥਾਪਿਆ ਨ ਜਾਇ ਕੀਤਾ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥ [/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]thhaapiaa n jaae keethaa n hoe ||[/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]He cannot be established, He cannot be created.[/COLOR][/CENTER] [CENTER][COLOR=purple]ਆਪੇ ਆਪਿ ਨਿਰੰਜਨੁ ਸੋਇ ॥ [/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]aapae aap niranjan soe ||[/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]He Himself is Immaculate and Pure.[/COLOR][/CENTER] [CENTER][COLOR=purple]ਜਿਨਿ ਸੇਵਿਆ ਤਿਨਿ ਪਾਇਆ ਮਾਨੁ ॥ [/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]jin saeviaa thin paaeiaa maan ||[/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]Those who serve Him are honored.[/COLOR][/CENTER] [CENTER][COLOR=purple]ਨਾਨਕ ਗਾਵੀਐ ਗੁਣੀ ਨਿਧਾਨੁ ॥ [/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]naanak gaaveeai gunee nidhhaan ||[/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]O Nanak, sing of the Lord, the Treasure of Excellence.[/COLOR][/CENTER] [CENTER][COLOR=purple]ਗਾਵੀਐ ਸੁਣੀਐ ਮਨਿ ਰਖੀਐ ਭਾਉ ॥ [/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]gaaveeai suneeai man rakheeai bhaao ||[/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]Sing, and listen, and let your mind be filled with love.[/COLOR][/CENTER] [CENTER][COLOR=purple]ਦੁਖੁ ਪਰਹਰਿ ਸੁਖੁ ਘਰਿ ਲੈ ਜਾਇ ॥ [/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]dhukh parehar sukh ghar lai jaae ||[/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]Your pain shall be sent far away, and peace shall come to your home.[/COLOR][/CENTER] [CENTER][COLOR=purple]ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਨਾਦੰ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਵੇਦੰ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਰਹਿਆ ਸਮਾਈ ॥ [/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]guramukh naadhan guramukh vaedhan guramukh rehiaa samaaee ||[/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]The Guru's Word is the Sound-current of the Naad; the Guru's Word is the Wisdom of the Vedas; the Guru's Word is all-pervading.[/COLOR][/CENTER] [CENTER][COLOR=purple]ਗੁਰੁ ਈਸਰੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਗੋਰਖੁ ਬਰਮਾ ਗੁਰੁ ਪਾਰਬਤੀ ਮਾਈ ॥ [/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]gur eesar gur gorakh baramaa gur paarabathee maaee ||[/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]The Guru is Shiva, the Guru is Vishnu and Brahma; the Guru is Paarvati and Lakhshmi.[/COLOR][/CENTER] [CENTER][B][U][COLOR=purple]ਜੇ ਹਉ ਜਾਣਾ ਆਖਾ ਨਾਹੀ ਕਹਣਾ ਕਥਨੁ ਨ ਜਾਈ ॥ [/COLOR][/U][/B] [B][U][COLOR=purple]jae ho jaanaa aakhaa naahee kehanaa kathhan n jaaee ||[/COLOR][/U][/B] [B][U][COLOR=purple]Even knowing God, I cannot describe Him; He cannot be described in words.[/COLOR][/U][/B][/CENTER] [CENTER][COLOR=purple]ਗੁਰਾ ਇਕ ਦੇਹਿ ਬੁਝਾਈ ॥ [/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]guraa eik dhaehi bujhaaee ||[/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]The Guru has given me this one understanding:[/COLOR][/CENTER] [CENTER][COLOR=purple]ਸਭਨਾ ਜੀਆ ਕਾ ਇਕੁ ਦਾਤਾ ਸੋ ਮੈ ਵਿਸਰਿ ਨ ਜਾਈ ॥੫॥ [/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]sabhanaa jeeaa kaa eik dhaathaa so mai visar n jaaee ||5||[/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]there is only the One, the Giver of all souls. May I never forget Him! ||5||[/COLOR][/CENTER] [CENTER][SIZE=3][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000080][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#ff00ff]Gurbani eis jag meh chaanan[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000080][SIZE=3][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#ff00ff]Gurbani har alakh lakhiayaa[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000080][SIZE=3][COLOR=fuchsia][FONT=Tahoma]Gurbani Gavo Bhaee[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000080][SIZE=3][COLOR=fuchsia][FONT=Tahoma]charan kamal para[U]bh[/U] kay ni[U]t[/U] [U]Dh[/U]i-aava-o[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT][/CENTER] [LEFT][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Guru Ji tells us He alone knows Himself.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3]Brahmgyani Ki gat Brahmgyani Jaaney:)[/SIZE][/LEFT] [/QUOTE]
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