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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Harry Haller" data-source="post: 205279" data-attributes="member: 14641"><p>well it is a bit, they did come up with it</p><p></p><p></p><p>funnily enough the wikki entry for karma reads</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">With origins in ancient India, karma is a key concept in </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma_in_Hinduism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Hinduism</span></u></a><span style="color: #0000ff">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma_in_Buddhism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Buddhism</span></u></a><span style="color: #0000ff">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma_in_Jainism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Jainism</span></u></a><span style="color: #0000ff">, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Sikhism</span></u></a></p><p></p><p>please don't tell me your sum understanding of karma is lifted from wikki.....</p><p></p><p></p><p>then why call it karma? Given that it was important to distance Sikhism from being another version of Hinduism, why not call it something else? unless all references to karma are actually reference only, rather than validation.</p><p></p><p></p><p>without a doubt</p><p></p><p>and how exactly would we know this?</p><p></p><p>You can be a Gurmukh today, right now, it just takes effort and desire.</p><p></p><p>not true, I am sitting here in my shop eating my Cornish pasty, reading the sun and there are squirrels climbing the trees opposite, one of them just fell off in mid jump.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>quite easily? Karma can be observed and tested just like gravity? I don't think so, unless you know some really enlightened squirrels. </p><p></p><p></p><p>As far as I know, which isn't very far at all, there is no concept of hell in Sikhism, period, again, these were concepts, as Sikhs, we were leaving behind, were we not?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>your saying that it is possible that in Sikhism, god punishes us for our actions after death?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>why can't it? there have been many many respected scholars that would disagree with you.</p><p></p><p></p><p>agreed!</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't get this, what is so fantastic about meeting our maker? What happens? do we have a nice cup of tea and bask in our makers glory? is it a bit like meeting the queen? Do we get a photo as well? and a goodie bag?</p><p></p><p>I met my maker this morning, I was informed what my requirements were for the day, and that was it, off I go to be the best Sikh I can be, sounds to me like your living for tomorrow. Not only do I meet my maker on a daily basis, but I sell computers to my maker, buy newspapers of my maker, give lifts to my maker, I hug my maker, my maker makes me laugh and smile, and sometimes, but not very often, I make love to my maker, don't you?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh I can explain it if you wish, I know I am only a third rate idiot, (not even a first rate one) (actually is a first rate idiot more of an idiot than a third rate one, or the other way round), maybe its about personalities, maybe its about growing, about changing, about your character replacing your personality, so that your personality is true and not false, maybe</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harry Haller, post: 205279, member: 14641"] well it is a bit, they did come up with it funnily enough the wikki entry for karma reads [COLOR=#0000ff]With origins in ancient India, karma is a key concept in [/COLOR][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma_in_Hinduism'][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Hinduism[/COLOR][/U][/URL][COLOR=#0000ff], [/COLOR][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma_in_Buddhism'][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Buddhism[/COLOR][/U][/URL][COLOR=#0000ff], [/COLOR][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma_in_Jainism'][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Jainism[/COLOR][/U][/URL][COLOR=#0000ff], [/COLOR][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism'][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Sikhism[/COLOR][/U][/URL] please don't tell me your sum understanding of karma is lifted from wikki..... then why call it karma? Given that it was important to distance Sikhism from being another version of Hinduism, why not call it something else? unless all references to karma are actually reference only, rather than validation. without a doubt and how exactly would we know this? You can be a Gurmukh today, right now, it just takes effort and desire. not true, I am sitting here in my shop eating my Cornish pasty, reading the sun and there are squirrels climbing the trees opposite, one of them just fell off in mid jump. quite easily? Karma can be observed and tested just like gravity? I don't think so, unless you know some really enlightened squirrels. As far as I know, which isn't very far at all, there is no concept of hell in Sikhism, period, again, these were concepts, as Sikhs, we were leaving behind, were we not? your saying that it is possible that in Sikhism, god punishes us for our actions after death? why can't it? there have been many many respected scholars that would disagree with you. agreed! I don't get this, what is so fantastic about meeting our maker? What happens? do we have a nice cup of tea and bask in our makers glory? is it a bit like meeting the queen? Do we get a photo as well? and a goodie bag? I met my maker this morning, I was informed what my requirements were for the day, and that was it, off I go to be the best Sikh I can be, sounds to me like your living for tomorrow. Not only do I meet my maker on a daily basis, but I sell computers to my maker, buy newspapers of my maker, give lifts to my maker, I hug my maker, my maker makes me laugh and smile, and sometimes, but not very often, I make love to my maker, don't you? Oh I can explain it if you wish, I know I am only a third rate idiot, (not even a first rate one) (actually is a first rate idiot more of an idiot than a third rate one, or the other way round), maybe its about personalities, maybe its about growing, about changing, about your character replacing your personality, so that your personality is true and not false, maybe [/QUOTE]
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