☀️ JOIN SPN MOBILE
Forums
New posts
Guru Granth Sahib
Composition, Arrangement & Layout
ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
What's new
New posts
New media
New media comments
New resources
Latest activity
Videos
New media
New comments
Library
Latest reviews
Donate
Log in
Register
What's new
New posts
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Welcome to all New Sikh Philosophy Network Forums!
Explore Sikh Sikhi Sikhism...
Sign up
Log in
Discussions
Sikh Sikhi Sikhism
Waheguru Simran, Nitnem, Gurbani Study: Which You Do Most And Why?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Tejwant Singh" data-source="post: 157541" data-attributes="member: 138"><p>Ravneet Singh ji,</p><p></p><p>Guru Fateh.</p><p></p><p>You write:</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>What do you mean by the above? Is it just a casual mechanical parroting or is it about understanding Gurbani and using it in our daily lives is required? If not then Nitnem becomes irrelevant and a futile daily exercise. </p><p></p><p>What do you think?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Once again, pardon my ignorance, you mean learning, understanding, practicing even one page of Gurbani is not Gurbani? One has to understand all 1430 pages of SGGS, our only Guru to make it Gurbani?</p><p></p><p>Some Banis are from the 1429 pages of SGGS, our only Guru in Nitnem. So you mean doing them is just a useless, unfruitful venture?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>First of all it is not a book. SGGS is our only Guru and of course understanding the whole SGGS is quite a task. Almost impossible. That is why we take hukumnaamas daily so we can follow them and work our lives of Miri-Piri based on them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Please elaborate the above.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree. That would be bad teaching skills. Why would you make the child read and recite something without showing as far as apple is concerned?</p><p></p><p>Are you trying to imply that our Gurus were bad teachers because they told us to parrot/chant/repeat?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not if you show the apple first to the child and then ask him to repeat the name till he gets it. After all he/she is a baby and just beginning to form words physically and put the picture of the apple in his brain's memory bank.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes of course. I have many members in one side of my family who were born blind and all of them were/are successful as poets, Raagis etc etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Please elaborate the above.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now you are contradicting yourself. Here what you said above:{ "Guru's Bani" is understanding of total book of 1430 Pages. } and now you are talking about just one word of Gurbani. Which is it?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I know you are talking about other people not about you because you talk below about yourself. What made you pass that judgement on others?</p><p></p><p>Only Ik Ong Kaar knows which milestone each of us is at. Neither you, me or anyone else can find that out no matter how many times we try to play Ik Ong kaar.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, now I get it. You claim that you are better than the people you talked above. How interesting! Isn't this called Me-ism?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I beg to differ with you on that one. It would depend on the context. It has nothing to do with the imaginative sense.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No they are not without the right context. Sorry to burst your bubble.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wrong again as mentioned above. All depends on the context.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Who is doing that?</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Are you talking about idol worshiping and Murti puja now? What context made you change to this?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Where did you get the above from? Please share with concrete examples.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Who is getting trained and who is giving the right training? Please name some.</p><p></p><p>Hope to learn from your interesting thoughts. Please respond in layman's terms so I can understand and learn from you.</p><p></p><p>Thanks & regards</p><p></p><p>Tejwant Singh</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tejwant Singh, post: 157541, member: 138"] Ravneet Singh ji, Guru Fateh. You write: What do you mean by the above? Is it just a casual mechanical parroting or is it about understanding Gurbani and using it in our daily lives is required? If not then Nitnem becomes irrelevant and a futile daily exercise. What do you think? Once again, pardon my ignorance, you mean learning, understanding, practicing even one page of Gurbani is not Gurbani? One has to understand all 1430 pages of SGGS, our only Guru to make it Gurbani? Some Banis are from the 1429 pages of SGGS, our only Guru in Nitnem. So you mean doing them is just a useless, unfruitful venture? First of all it is not a book. SGGS is our only Guru and of course understanding the whole SGGS is quite a task. Almost impossible. That is why we take hukumnaamas daily so we can follow them and work our lives of Miri-Piri based on them. Please elaborate the above. I agree. That would be bad teaching skills. Why would you make the child read and recite something without showing as far as apple is concerned? Are you trying to imply that our Gurus were bad teachers because they told us to parrot/chant/repeat? Not if you show the apple first to the child and then ask him to repeat the name till he gets it. After all he/she is a baby and just beginning to form words physically and put the picture of the apple in his brain's memory bank. Yes of course. I have many members in one side of my family who were born blind and all of them were/are successful as poets, Raagis etc etc. Please elaborate the above. Now you are contradicting yourself. Here what you said above:{ "Guru's Bani" is understanding of total book of 1430 Pages. } and now you are talking about just one word of Gurbani. Which is it? I know you are talking about other people not about you because you talk below about yourself. What made you pass that judgement on others? Only Ik Ong Kaar knows which milestone each of us is at. Neither you, me or anyone else can find that out no matter how many times we try to play Ik Ong kaar. Oh, now I get it. You claim that you are better than the people you talked above. How interesting! Isn't this called Me-ism? I beg to differ with you on that one. It would depend on the context. It has nothing to do with the imaginative sense. No they are not without the right context. Sorry to burst your bubble. Wrong again as mentioned above. All depends on the context. Who is doing that? Are you talking about idol worshiping and Murti puja now? What context made you change to this? Where did you get the above from? Please share with concrete examples. Who is getting trained and who is giving the right training? Please name some. Hope to learn from your interesting thoughts. Please respond in layman's terms so I can understand and learn from you. Thanks & regards Tejwant Singh [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Discussions
Sikh Sikhi Sikhism
Waheguru Simran, Nitnem, Gurbani Study: Which You Do Most And Why?
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
Accept
Learn more…
Top