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<blockquote data-quote="vijaydeep Singh" data-source="post: 49505" data-attributes="member: 313"><p><strong>Re: Taksal A critical Analysis</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Gurfateh</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Das thinks that all the three gruops are expert in thier fields and are needed to let Panth goes for Chardi Kala.</span></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">1. Kala Afghana Sahib</span></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">For removal of ritualism and social reform in Panth.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">2.AKJ.</span></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">They think by thier heart so are full of factor dynamic.Thier motiavtion can be utilised for Panthic betterment.</span></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">3.Taksal.</span></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Has great intellect,knowldge and Santhya but more sound follower base.So again thier base can be use to preach Gurmat outside the Sikh families as they also know a lot about other faiths.They get teaching of oterh faiths vide Pandits and Maulvis.</span></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">As KF alleged above that das is covert agent of GOI or RSS(das is from technical side and if at all interested then is interested incurbing maoism in India and Nepal).Then why should das pray for unity of various diversfied Panthic bodies?</span></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">It is difficult but Akal's willing we may achive.Just by tolrating other Sikhs divegent views and trying to come near each other with love and sort the things with if needed tactfully.Das used bad word for KF just as he would have used for his yuonger brother to snub him to behave homself.</span></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">If KF(Khalsa fauj) does hate das.das nenver has such feeling for any fellow Sikh.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: black">Here we go.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">But they are in some context while das finds at higher lelver there is not a singel demigod who is real.Only Akal is real.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=227&english=t&id=9857" target="_blank"><u>Page 227, Line 2</u></a></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕਮਲੁ ਪਇਆਲਿ ਨ ਪਾਇਆ ॥</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">ब्रहम कमलु पइआलि न पाइआ ॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">barahm kamal pa-i-aal na paa-i-aa.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">Brahma entered the lotus, and searched the nether regions, but he did not find the end of it.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="color: green"><strong>Guru Nanak Dev</strong></span> - [SIZE=-1]<span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=227&L=2" target="_blank"><u>view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok</u></a></span>[/SIZE]<span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=350&english=t&id=16054" target="_blank"><u>Page 350, Line 17</u></a></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">ਨਾਲਿ ਕੁਟੰਬੁ ਸਾਥਿ ਵਰਦਾਤਾ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਭਾਲਣ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਗਇਆ ॥</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">नालि कुट्मबु साथि वरदाता ब्रहमा भालण स्रिसटि गइआ ॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">naal kutamb saath vardaataa barahmaa bhaalan sarisat ga-i-aa.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">Brahma, the bestower of blessings, entered the stem of the lotus, with his relatives, to find the extent of the universe.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="color: green"><strong>Guru Nanak Dev</strong></span> - [SIZE=-1]<span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=350&L=17" target="_blank"><u>view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok</u></a></span>[/SIZE]<span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=489&english=t&id=22107" target="_blank"><u>Page 489, Line 8</u></a></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">ਨਾਭਿ ਕਮਲ ਤੇ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਉਪਜੇ ਬੇਦ ਪੜਹਿ ਮੁਖਿ ਕੰਠਿ ਸਵਾਰਿ ॥</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">नाभि कमल ते ब्रहमा उपजे बेद पड़हि मुखि कंठि सवारि ॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">naabh kamal tay barahmaa upjay bayd parheh mukh kanth savaar.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">From the lotus of Vishnu's navel, Brahma was born; He chanted the Vedas with a melodious voice.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="color: green"><strong>Guru Nanak Dev</strong></span> - [SIZE=-1]<span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=489&L=8" target="_blank"><u>view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok</u></a></span>[/SIZE]<span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=1237&english=t&id=53197" target="_blank"><u>Page 1237, Line 17</u></a></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">ਨਾਭਿ ਵਸਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੈ ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਜਾਣਿਆ ॥</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">नाभि वसत ब्रहमै अंतु न जाणिआ ॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">naabh vasat barahmai ant na jaani-aa.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">Brahma, in the lotus of the navel, does not know the limits of God.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="color: green"><strong>Guru Nanak Dev</strong></span> - [SIZE=-1]<span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=1237&L=17" target="_blank"><u>view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok</u></a></span>[/SIZE]<span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=1309&english=t&id=56114" target="_blank"><u>Page 1309, Line 7</u></a></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕਮਲ ਪੁਤੁ ਮੀਨ ਬਿਆਸਾ ਤਪੁ ਤਾਪਨ ਪੂਜ ਕਰਾਵੈਗੋ ॥</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">ब्रहम कमल पुतु मीन बिआसा तपु तापन पूज करावैगो ॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">barahm kamal put meen bi-aasaa tap taapan pooj karaavaigo.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">Brahma, the son of the lotus, and Vyaas, the son of the fish, practiced austere penance and were worshipped.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="color: green"><strong>Guru Ram Das</strong></span> - [SIZE=-1]<span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=1309&L=7" target="_blank"><u>view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok</u></a></span>[/SIZE]</span></p><p><span style="color: black">Then we talk abut Vedas unto Brahma</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">[SIZE=-1]<span style="color: white">Performed an advanced search </span>[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]<span style="color: white">Results <strong>1</strong> - <strong>22</strong> of <strong>22</strong>. Search took <strong>0.453</strong> seconds.</span>[/SIZE]</span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=59&english=t&id=2399" target="_blank"><u>Page 59, Line 8</u></a></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">ਪੂਛਹੁ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੇ ਨਾਰਦੈ ਬੇਦ ਬਿਆਸੈ ਕੋਇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">पूछहु ब्रहमे नारदै बेद बिआसै कोइ ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">poochhahu barahmay naardai bayd bi-aasai ko-ay. ||1|| rahaa-o.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">Go and ask Brahma, Naarad and Vyaas, the writer of the Vedas. ||1||Pause||</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="color: green"><strong>Guru Nanak Dev</strong></span> - [SIZE=-1]<span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=59&L=8" target="_blank"><u>view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok</u></a></span>[/SIZE]<span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=230&english=t&id=10051" target="_blank"><u>Page 230, Line 17</u></a></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਮੂਲੁ ਵੇਦ ਅਭਿਆਸਾ ॥</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">ब्रहमा मूलु वेद अभिआसा ॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">barahmaa mool vayd abhi-aasaa.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">Brahma is the founder of the study of the Vedas.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="color: green"><strong>Guru Amar Das</strong></span> - [SIZE=-1]<span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=230&L=17" target="_blank"><u>view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok</u></a></span>[/SIZE]<a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=423&english=t&id=19476" target="_blank"><u><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #0000ff">Page 423, Line 5</span></span></u></a></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: black">ਚਾਰੇ ਵੇਦ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੇ ਕਉ ਦੀਏ ਪੜਿ ਪੜਿ ਕਰੇ ਵੀਚਾਰੀ ॥</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">चारे वेद ब्रहमे कउ दीए पड़ि पड़ि करे वीचारी ॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">chaaray vayd barahmay ka-o dee-ay parh parh karay veechaaree.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: black">You gave the four Vedas to Brahma, for him to read and read continually, and reflect upon.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="color: green"><strong>Guru Amar Das</strong></span> - [SIZE=-1]<span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=423&L=5" target="_blank"><u>view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok</u></a></span>[/SIZE] <span style="color: #0000ff">Das when he said that as per Gurbani Brahma made Vedas,then das is not endrosing Vedas at all.It is error of interpetaion then act of Das.</span><span style="color: #0000ff">In Spokes men where Kala Afghana Sahib challenge Vachitar Natak in an English article,there to,he talks that why did not Brahma become Bedi as he wrote Vedas and how can Family of First Master became Bedi?</span> <span style="color: #0000ff">Das has replied that thing in Dasham Granth section.</span> <span style="color: #0000ff">Das has lareadtyy mentioned Bani is 100 and Vedas are 20 only.</span> <span style="color: #0000ff">Vedas were at stage when humans and scince were at developing state.While Gurmat is modern and evolived faith.Not as Sikh but as social scintist Das can say this.So kindly do not misunderstand das.</span> <span style="color: #0000ff">(to be continued..)</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vijaydeep Singh, post: 49505, member: 313"] [b]Re: Taksal A critical Analysis[/b] [COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman]Gurfateh[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman] Das thinks that all the three gruops are expert in thier fields and are needed to let Panth goes for Chardi Kala. 1. Kala Afghana Sahib For removal of ritualism and social reform in Panth. 2.AKJ. They think by thier heart so are full of factor dynamic.Thier motiavtion can be utilised for Panthic betterment. 3.Taksal. Has great intellect,knowldge and Santhya but more sound follower base.So again thier base can be use to preach Gurmat outside the Sikh families as they also know a lot about other faiths.They get teaching of oterh faiths vide Pandits and Maulvis. As KF alleged above that das is covert agent of GOI or RSS(das is from technical side and if at all interested then is interested incurbing maoism in India and Nepal).Then why should das pray for unity of various diversfied Panthic bodies? It is difficult but Akal's willing we may achive.Just by tolrating other Sikhs divegent views and trying to come near each other with love and sort the things with if needed tactfully.Das used bad word for KF just as he would have used for his yuonger brother to snub him to behave homself. If KF(Khalsa fauj) does hate das.das nenver has such feeling for any fellow Sikh. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Here we go.[/COLOR] [COLOR=black][/COLOR] [COLOR=black]But they are in some context while das finds at higher lelver there is not a singel demigod who is real.Only Akal is real.[/COLOR] [COLOR=black][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][SIZE=1][COLOR=#0000ff][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=227&english=t&id=9857"][U]Page 227, Line 2[/U][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕਮਲੁ ਪਇਆਲਿ ਨ ਪਾਇਆ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]ब्रहम कमलु पइआलि न पाइआ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]barahm kamal pa-i-aal na paa-i-aa.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Brahma entered the lotus, and searched the nether regions, but he did not find the end of it.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=green][B]Guru Nanak Dev[/B][/COLOR] - [SIZE=-1][COLOR=#0000ff][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=227&L=2"][U]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/U][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=#0000ff][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=350&english=t&id=16054"][U]Page 350, Line 17[/U][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]ਨਾਲਿ ਕੁਟੰਬੁ ਸਾਥਿ ਵਰਦਾਤਾ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਭਾਲਣ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਗਇਆ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]नालि कुट्मबु साथि वरदाता ब्रहमा भालण स्रिसटि गइआ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]naal kutamb saath vardaataa barahmaa bhaalan sarisat ga-i-aa.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Brahma, the bestower of blessings, entered the stem of the lotus, with his relatives, to find the extent of the universe.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=green][B]Guru Nanak Dev[/B][/COLOR] - [SIZE=-1][COLOR=#0000ff][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=350&L=17"][U]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/U][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=#0000ff][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=489&english=t&id=22107"][U]Page 489, Line 8[/U][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]ਨਾਭਿ ਕਮਲ ਤੇ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਉਪਜੇ ਬੇਦ ਪੜਹਿ ਮੁਖਿ ਕੰਠਿ ਸਵਾਰਿ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]नाभि कमल ते ब्रहमा उपजे बेद पड़हि मुखि कंठि सवारि ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]naabh kamal tay barahmaa upjay bayd parheh mukh kanth savaar.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]From the lotus of Vishnu's navel, Brahma was born; He chanted the Vedas with a melodious voice.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=green][B]Guru Nanak Dev[/B][/COLOR] - [SIZE=-1][COLOR=#0000ff][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=489&L=8"][U]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/U][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=#0000ff][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=1237&english=t&id=53197"][U]Page 1237, Line 17[/U][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]ਨਾਭਿ ਵਸਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੈ ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਜਾਣਿਆ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]नाभि वसत ब्रहमै अंतु न जाणिआ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]naabh vasat barahmai ant na jaani-aa.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Brahma, in the lotus of the navel, does not know the limits of God.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=green][B]Guru Nanak Dev[/B][/COLOR] - [SIZE=-1][COLOR=#0000ff][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=1237&L=17"][U]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/U][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=#0000ff][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=1309&english=t&id=56114"][U]Page 1309, Line 7[/U][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕਮਲ ਪੁਤੁ ਮੀਨ ਬਿਆਸਾ ਤਪੁ ਤਾਪਨ ਪੂਜ ਕਰਾਵੈਗੋ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]ब्रहम कमल पुतु मीन बिआसा तपु तापन पूज करावैगो ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]barahm kamal put meen bi-aasaa tap taapan pooj karaavaigo.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Brahma, the son of the lotus, and Vyaas, the son of the fish, practiced austere penance and were worshipped.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=green][B]Guru Ram Das[/B][/COLOR] - [SIZE=-1][COLOR=#0000ff][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=1309&L=7"][U]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/U][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Then we talk abut Vedas unto Brahma[/COLOR] [COLOR=black][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][SIZE=-1][COLOR=white]Performed an advanced search [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=-1][COLOR=white]Results [B]1[/B] - [B]22[/B] of [B]22[/B]. Search took [B]0.453[/B] seconds.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=#0000ff][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=59&english=t&id=2399"][U]Page 59, Line 8[/U][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]ਪੂਛਹੁ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੇ ਨਾਰਦੈ ਬੇਦ ਬਿਆਸੈ ਕੋਇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]पूछहु ब्रहमे नारदै बेद बिआसै कोइ ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]poochhahu barahmay naardai bayd bi-aasai ko-ay. ||1|| rahaa-o.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Go and ask Brahma, Naarad and Vyaas, the writer of the Vedas. ||1||Pause||[/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=green][B]Guru Nanak Dev[/B][/COLOR] - [SIZE=-1][COLOR=#0000ff][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=59&L=8"][U]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/U][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=#0000ff][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=230&english=t&id=10051"][U]Page 230, Line 17[/U][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਮੂਲੁ ਵੇਦ ਅਭਿਆਸਾ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]ब्रहमा मूलु वेद अभिआसा ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]barahmaa mool vayd abhi-aasaa.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]Brahma is the founder of the study of the Vedas.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=green][B]Guru Amar Das[/B][/COLOR] - [SIZE=-1][COLOR=#0000ff][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=230&L=17"][U]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/U][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=423&english=t&id=19476"][U][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff]Page 423, Line 5[/COLOR][/SIZE][/U][/URL] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=4][COLOR=black]ਚਾਰੇ ਵੇਦ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੇ ਕਉ ਦੀਏ ਪੜਿ ਪੜਿ ਕਰੇ ਵੀਚਾਰੀ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]चारे वेद ब्रहमे कउ दीए पड़ि पड़ि करे वीचारी ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]chaaray vayd barahmay ka-o dee-ay parh parh karay veechaaree.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=black]You gave the four Vedas to Brahma, for him to read and read continually, and reflect upon.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=green][B]Guru Amar Das[/B][/COLOR] - [SIZE=-1][COLOR=#0000ff][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=423&L=5"][U]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/U][/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]Das when he said that as per Gurbani Brahma made Vedas,then das is not endrosing Vedas at all.It is error of interpetaion then act of Das.[/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff]In Spokes men where Kala Afghana Sahib challenge Vachitar Natak in an English article,there to,he talks that why did not Brahma become Bedi as he wrote Vedas and how can Family of First Master became Bedi?[/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]Das has replied that thing in Dasham Granth section.[/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]Das has lareadtyy mentioned Bani is 100 and Vedas are 20 only.[/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]Vedas were at stage when humans and scince were at developing state.While Gurmat is modern and evolived faith.Not as Sikh but as social scintist Das can say this.So kindly do not misunderstand das.[/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff](to be continued..)[/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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