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Sukhmani Sahib Astpadi 3 Sabad 5 / ਸੁਖਮਨੀ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਅਸਟਪਦੀ ੩ ਸਬਦ ੫

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    ਸਲੋਕੁ
    Salok.

    Salok

    ਬਹੁ ਸਾਸਤ੍ਰ ਬਹੁ ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤੀ ਪੇਖੇ ਸਰਬ ਢਢੋਲਿ ਪੂਜਸਿ ਨਾਹੀ ਹਰਿ ਹਰੇ ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮ ਅਮੋਲ ੧॥
    Baho sāsṯar baho simriṯī pekẖe sarab dẖadẖol. Pūjas nāhī har hare Nānak nām amol. ||1||

    Many holy books and treatises have been researched. Guru Nanak, nothing comes close to the understanding of the esteemed creator or be so valued.


    ਅਸਟਪਦੀ
    Asatpaḏī.

    Eight stanzas hymn.

    ਚਾਰਿ ਪਦਾਰਥ ਜੇ ਕੋ ਮਾਗੈ ਸਾਧ ਜਨਾ ਕੀ ਸੇਵਾ ਲਾਗੈ
    Cẖār paḏārath je ko māgai. Sāḏẖ janā kī sevā lāgai.

    If one seeks the four cardinal entities. Such should be in service of the humble and pious.

    ਜੇ ਕੋ ਆਪੁਨਾ ਦੂਖੁ ਮਿਟਾਵੈ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਰਿਦੈ ਸਦ ਗਾਵੈ
    Je ko āpunā ḏūkẖ mitāvai. Har har nām riḏai saḏ gāvai.

    If one wants to get rid of the ills. All the time keep aware of creator’s virtues in the heart.

    ਜੇ ਕੋ ਅਪੁਨੀ ਸੋਭਾ ਲੋਰੈ ਸਾਧਸੰਗਿ ਇਹ ਹਉਮੈ ਛੋਰੈ
    Je ko apunī sobẖā lorai. Sāḏẖsang ih ha▫umai cẖẖorai.

    One who wants to earn honor. Renounce the ego and be in company of the pious.

    ਜੇ ਕੋ ਜਨਮ ਮਰਣ ਤੇ ਡਰੈ ਸਾਧ ਜਨਾ ਕੀ ਸਰਨੀ ਪਰੈ
    Je ko janam maraṇ ṯe darai. Sāḏẖ janā kī sarnī parai.

    One who is scared of life and death. Should fall at the feet of the humble and pious.

    ਜਿਸੁ ਜਨ ਕਉ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਦਰਸ ਪਿਆਸਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਤਾ ਕੈ ਬਲਿ ਬਲਿ ਜਾਸਾ ੫॥
    Jis jan ka▫o parabẖ ḏaras pi▫āsā. Nānak ṯā kai bal bal jāsā. ||5||

    A humble one who is delirious to see the creator. Guru Nanak, extols such immensely.

    Please note all errors are mine and I stand corrected.

    Sat Sri Akal.
     
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    S. Ambarsari Ji

    Char Padarath -To me it looks like a saying and it is not exactly four like char dina di chandini.
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    Veer ji thanks for your comment. Following was the source of my translation,

    A person at another site has also given a nicer description as,
    Let me know any suggestions or corrections.

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    S. Ambarsari Ji

    Since gurmat is unlimited, as per my understanding 'char padarath' has been used as a metaphor.

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    Veer ji thanks for your comment.

    Metaphorically it will translate to something like

    "If one seeks a complete and fulfilled family life"

    Do you believe it is better. There are some areas in translations where some metaphorical usage is hard to convey in a Western sense. I did not want to take a leap too far out of the truer translation. Even though it makes for easier reading. I will probably make more note and perhaps work harder on some of these. The other approach is to add notes of explanantion but it affects flow of reading which is of value on its own too.

    Any comments.

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    Sikh only request 'dai naam santokhiah utrai mann ki bukh' SGGS 985.

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    Veer ji metaphors are used to link with the people that Guru ji was teaching. "ਚਾਰਿ ਪਦਾਰਥ / Char Padarath" must have been determined by Guru ji as a way to carry the message forward for the audience (mostly Hindus) to convey the value of good spiritual company. This core tenet of this sabad 5 in Astpadi 3. I have no way of knowing any different while reading and understanding. Perhaps our Parchariks can test it in audiences similar and see if it still works. It probably still does work with Hindus or Sikhs with Hindutva embedded.

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