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Gurmat Vichar - Discussions
Simran And Sikhi (Karminder Singh Dhillon)
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<blockquote data-quote="gur_meet" data-source="post: 197868" data-attributes="member: 10945"><p>Chaz ji</p><p>What I have shared are from my experiences years back. Only Guru Knows where the stage is a Sikh is.</p><p></p><p>One learns through sharing. A gursikh had long back shared that in gurbani there is no word "abyhas' meaning practice. The Guru advice is "Udham" meaning effort.</p><p>Si,ran is no skill to be practiced and made better and better. Nitnem is not meant to be better in doing it.</p><p></p><p>Guruji says in Japji Sahib ' <span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #003366">ਅਖਰੀ ਨਾਮੁ ਅਖਰੀ ਸਾਲਾਹ ॥ </span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-size: 9px">Akharee Naam Akharee Saalaah ||</span> " . The words lead to naam and the words <span style="color: #003300">that make us the way to Naam- sift sa<span style="color: #003300">slaah (praises).</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300">The words are thoughts and thoughts become beliefs . Group beli<span style="color: #003300">ef's influence your thoughts as well.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300">You say 'follow the heart<span style="color: #003300">' . " follow the feelings" . Who knows these may have an agenda of their own like attachment<span style="color: #003300"> <span style="color: #003300">. This is a world <span style="color: #003300">has duality<span style="color: #003300"> structured within it.Where there is Love there is Fear<span style="color: #003300"> as well .Fear is part of created world<span style="color: #003300">. all vikars have in one way or another a fear connection. Guru ji says <span style="color: #003300">Sat state is Nirbhau. <span style="color: #003300">Means Fear i<span style="color: #003300">s not part of HIM. our feelings a<span style="color: #003300">nd <span style="color: #003300">behavior</span> has <span style="color: #003300">quite often fear influence.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300">Gurbani advices follow the Guru. Gurbani is absolute truth and the advice is the correct path. The Group beli<span style="color: #003300">efs in the form of good quotes <span style="color: #003300">often appear as true.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"> Guru ji says " </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"> <span style="color: #003366">ਹੁਕਮਿ ਰਜਾਈ ਚਲਣਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਨਾਲਿ ॥੧॥ </span><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #003300">Hukam Rajaaee Chalanaa Naanak Likhiaa Naal ||1|| " . <span style="font-size: 10px">This is what to be followed. This gets written in the form of <span style="color: #003300">thoughts <span style="color: #003300">and action which changes the Sikh's mind.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300">Words are important . These are thoughts in the mind. These have a force of their own. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300">Gurbani words <span style="color: #003300">are true potent spiritual directional force for the Gursikh. <span style="color: #003300">When the Sikh comes to realize and <span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300">accepts</span> the presence of Shabad Guru within the gurbani then communicate<span style="color: #003300">s.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"><span style="color: #003300"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span> </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gur_meet, post: 197868, member: 10945"] Chaz ji What I have shared are from my experiences years back. Only Guru Knows where the stage is a Sikh is. One learns through sharing. A gursikh had long back shared that in gurbani there is no word "abyhas' meaning practice. The Guru advice is "Udham" meaning effort. Si,ran is no skill to be practiced and made better and better. Nitnem is not meant to be better in doing it. Guruji says in Japji Sahib ' [SIZE=2][color=#003366]ਅਖਰੀ ਨਾਮੁ ਅਖਰੀ ਸਾਲਾਹ ॥ [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][color=#003300][SIZE=1]Akharee Naam Akharee Saalaah ||[/SIZE] " . The words lead to naam and the words [color=#003300]that make us the way to Naam- sift sa[color=#003300]slaah (praises). [color=#003300]The words are thoughts and thoughts become beliefs . Group beli[color=#003300]ef's influence your thoughts as well. [color=#003300]You say 'follow the heart[color=#003300]' . " follow the feelings" . Who knows these may have an agenda of their own like attachment[color=#003300] [color=#003300]. This is a world [color=#003300]has duality[color=#003300] structured within it.Where there is Love there is Fear[color=#003300] as well .Fear is part of created world[color=#003300]. all vikars have in one way or another a fear connection. Guru ji says [color=#003300]Sat state is Nirbhau. [color=#003300]Means Fear i[color=#003300]s not part of HIM. our feelings a[color=#003300]nd [color=#003300]behavior[/COLOR] has [color=#003300]quite often fear influence. [color=#003300]Gurbani advices follow the Guru. Gurbani is absolute truth and the advice is the correct path. The Group beli[color=#003300]efs in the form of good quotes [color=#003300]often appear as true. [color=#003300] Guru ji says " [/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=2][color=#003300][color=#003300][color=#003300][color=#003300][color=#003300][color=#003300][color=#003300][color=#003300][color=#003300][color=#003300][color=#003300][color=#003300][color=#003300][color=#003300][color=#003300][color=#003300][color=#003300][color=#003300][color=#003300][color=#003300][color=#003300][color=#003300] [color=#003366]ਹੁਕਮਿ ਰਜਾਈ ਚਲਣਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਨਾਲਿ ॥੧॥ [/COLOR][SIZE=1][color=#003300]Hukam Rajaaee Chalanaa Naanak Likhiaa Naal ||1|| " . [SIZE=2]This is what to be followed. This gets written in the form of [color=#003300]thoughts [color=#003300]and action which changes the Sikh's mind. [color=#003300][color=#003300]Words are important . These are thoughts in the mind. These have a force of their own. [color=#003300]Gurbani words [color=#003300]are true potent spiritual directional force for the Gursikh. [color=#003300]When the Sikh comes to realize and [color=#003300][color=#003300]accepts[/COLOR] the presence of Shabad Guru within the gurbani then communicate[color=#003300]s.[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] [/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE] [/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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