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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Neutral Singh" data-source="post: 2097" data-attributes="member: 2"><p>Dear Member (TruthSeeker Jee),</p><p></p><p>I have said that religions are paths to divinity. By mechanically practiceing the code of the any religion or dogmatically living with its doctrines, on one can become divine. </p><p></p><p>The codes and insistance on the doctrines, in my opinion are the tools to bring in discipline and to kindle spirituality in the individual and nothing more than this, beyond this the individual is on its own.</p><p></p><p>You appear to be familiar with the essence of many religions. Jesus has once said, the way to my kingdom is very narrow. He owned no territoy, he did not own any property, he was not a king. Then what he meant by his 'kingdom'. To me is is the same which all the religions lead to - divinity. </p><p></p><p>Why did he say that the path is very narrow.To me it was to convey the meaning that people in large crowds cannot reach there; each individual has to reach there, and in my opinion on her/his own.</p><p></p><p>I have explained what I meant by the becoming divine in the life time itself in my response to the post of our member Amarjit Singh Jee, so I am not repeating the same here. </p><p></p><p>I respond to your question why is there death.</p><p></p><p>Only the 'Nirakaar' part of the individul is what merges with 'The Sat' which is 'Nirakaar'. The worldly part of the individual i.e. which gives the individual her/his form - the body has to die; it came from nature it merges with nature. Every entity has to merge into from where it came -Akaar into Akaar, Nirakaar into 'Nirakaar'. So the body has to die and hence there is death.</p><p></p><p>You asked about when did they became divine.</p><p></p><p>As literature indicates Gautam reached this state under the tree in Gaya. </p><p></p><p>Siri Guru Nanak Dev Jee reached this stage when he disappeared for three days while taking bath in the river.</p><p></p><p>The other Gurus I donot know.</p><p></p><p>You asked what traits that distinduish the divine person from the mundane individual.</p><p></p><p>The 'Intrinsic Spirituality' is what distinguishes the divine from mundane. Compassion, humility, absence of Ahamkar, non-attachment and truthfulness in life are the indicator about the person who is on her/his way to divinity - these flow out of such individual in a natural way, no effort is need for it on her/his part. Literature says that there is a hallow around such person. I have not seen any but I accept this because I conceptualise 'The Sat' as 'Cosmic Intellegence' and so it have to have a field, which people refer to a hallow.</p><p></p><p>You asked what happens to those who are not able to merge in this birth.</p><p></p><p>From what I understand, those who are not able to merge have to take rebirth.</p><p></p><p>These are my views based on my current understanding. No one need to agree with them. They only reflect what I am at this moment.</p><p></p><p>When we discuss, we express our views, we seek clarification on what is said, we raise questions, but we do not pass judgement.</p><p></p><p>With love and respect for all.</p><p></p><p>Amarpal</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neutral Singh, post: 2097, member: 2"] Dear Member (TruthSeeker Jee), I have said that religions are paths to divinity. By mechanically practiceing the code of the any religion or dogmatically living with its doctrines, on one can become divine. The codes and insistance on the doctrines, in my opinion are the tools to bring in discipline and to kindle spirituality in the individual and nothing more than this, beyond this the individual is on its own. You appear to be familiar with the essence of many religions. Jesus has once said, the way to my kingdom is very narrow. He owned no territoy, he did not own any property, he was not a king. Then what he meant by his 'kingdom'. To me is is the same which all the religions lead to - divinity. Why did he say that the path is very narrow.To me it was to convey the meaning that people in large crowds cannot reach there; each individual has to reach there, and in my opinion on her/his own. I have explained what I meant by the becoming divine in the life time itself in my response to the post of our member Amarjit Singh Jee, so I am not repeating the same here. I respond to your question why is there death. Only the 'Nirakaar' part of the individul is what merges with 'The Sat' which is 'Nirakaar'. The worldly part of the individual i.e. which gives the individual her/his form - the body has to die; it came from nature it merges with nature. Every entity has to merge into from where it came -Akaar into Akaar, Nirakaar into 'Nirakaar'. So the body has to die and hence there is death. You asked about when did they became divine. As literature indicates Gautam reached this state under the tree in Gaya. Siri Guru Nanak Dev Jee reached this stage when he disappeared for three days while taking bath in the river. The other Gurus I donot know. You asked what traits that distinduish the divine person from the mundane individual. The 'Intrinsic Spirituality' is what distinguishes the divine from mundane. Compassion, humility, absence of Ahamkar, non-attachment and truthfulness in life are the indicator about the person who is on her/his way to divinity - these flow out of such individual in a natural way, no effort is need for it on her/his part. Literature says that there is a hallow around such person. I have not seen any but I accept this because I conceptualise 'The Sat' as 'Cosmic Intellegence' and so it have to have a field, which people refer to a hallow. You asked what happens to those who are not able to merge in this birth. From what I understand, those who are not able to merge have to take rebirth. These are my views based on my current understanding. No one need to agree with them. They only reflect what I am at this moment. When we discuss, we express our views, we seek clarification on what is said, we raise questions, but we do not pass judgement. With love and respect for all. Amarpal [/QUOTE]
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