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<blockquote data-quote="vijaydeep Singh" data-source="post: 57855" data-attributes="member: 313"><p>Gurfateh</p><p></p><p>Homosexuality if das is not mistaken had some thing to do with some things uncurable happening to man(lesbians in case of women) due to circumstances as das was told by DRkhalsa Ji.</p><p></p><p>In previous post it was there.Some things which are beyond the control of man.So we can no comdem this just like fundamnetalists.</p><p></p><p>even if we behold it as sin.</p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=920&punjabi=t&id=39453" target="_blank"><u><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #0000ff">ਪੰਨਾ 920, ਸਤਰ 15</span></span></u></a></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: black">ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਾਸਤ੍ਰ ਪੁੰਨ ਪਾਪ ਬੀਚਾਰਦੇ ਤਤੈ ਸਾਰ ਨ ਜਾਣੀ ॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black">सिम्रिति सासत्र पुंन पाप बीचारदे ततै सार न जाणी ॥</span></p><p><span style="color: black">Simriṯ sāsṯar punn pāp bīcẖārḏė ṯaṯai sār na jāṇī.</span></p><p><span style="color: black">The Simritees and the Shaastras discriminate between good and evil, but they do not know the true essence of reality.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: green">ਮਃ 3</span></span> - <span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=920&L=15" target="_blank"><u>view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok</u></a></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=949&punjabi=t&id=40717" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">ਪੰਨਾ 949, ਸਤਰ 17</span></u></a></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: black">ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਾਸਤ ਸਾਜਿਅਨੁ ਪਾਪ ਪੁੰਨ ਗਣਤ ਗਣੀਨੀ ॥</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black">सिम्रिति सासत साजिअनु पाप पुंन गणत गणीनी ॥</span></p><p><span style="color: black">Simriṯ sāsaṯ sāji&shy;an pāp punn gaṇaṯ gaṇīnī.</span></p><p><span style="color: black">He created the Simritees and the Shaastras; He calculates the accounts of virtue and vice.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: green">ਮਃ 3</span></span> - <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=949&L=17" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255)">view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok</span></u></a> </p><p><u><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"></span></u></p><p><u><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=1050&punjabi=t&id=44958" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'">ਪੰਨਾ 1050, ਸਤਰ 3</span></a></span></span></u></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: black">ਪੁੰਨੁ ਪਾਪੁ ਸਭੁ ਬੇਦਿ ਦ੍ਰਿੜਾਇਆ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਪੀਜੈ ਹੇ ॥੧੫॥</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black">पुंनु पापु सभु बेदि द्रिड़ाइआ गुरमुखि अम्रितु पीजै हे ॥१५॥</span></p><p><span style="color: black">Punn pāp sabẖ bėḏ driṛ&shy;ā&shy;i&shy;ā gurmukẖ amriṯ pījai hė. ||15||</span></p><p><span style="color: black">The Vedas tell all about virtue and vice, but only the Gurmukh drinks in the Ambrosial Nectar. ||15||</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="color: green">ਮਃ 3</span></span> - <span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=1050&L=3" target="_blank"><u>view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok</u></a></span></p><p></p><p>So what das came to know about helplessness of homosexuals(two partners or mnay and indulging in such acts and not forcing us in that) as their becoming homsexuals was not in thier control nor it is inthier control to come out of it.Then we have to be sympathic and ned something to do to rehabliation of them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vijaydeep Singh, post: 57855, member: 313"] Gurfateh Homosexuality if das is not mistaken had some thing to do with some things uncurable happening to man(lesbians in case of women) due to circumstances as das was told by DRkhalsa Ji. In previous post it was there.Some things which are beyond the control of man.So we can no comdem this just like fundamnetalists. even if we behold it as sin. [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=920&punjabi=t&id=39453'][U][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff]ਪੰਨਾ 920, ਸਤਰ 15[/COLOR][/SIZE][/U][/URL] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=4][COLOR=black]ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਾਸਤ੍ਰ ਪੁੰਨ ਪਾਪ ਬੀਚਾਰਦੇ ਤਤੈ ਸਾਰ ਨ ਜਾਣੀ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [COLOR=black]सिम्रिति सासत्र पुंन पाप बीचारदे ततै सार न जाणी ॥ Simriṯ sāsṯar punn pāp bīcẖārḏė ṯaṯai sār na jāṇī. The Simritees and the Shaastras discriminate between good and evil, but they do not know the true essence of reality.[/COLOR] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=green]ਮਃ 3[/COLOR][/FONT] - [COLOR=#0000ff][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=920&L=15'][U]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/U][/URL][/COLOR] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=949&punjabi=t&id=40717'][U][COLOR=#0000ff]ਪੰਨਾ 949, ਸਤਰ 17[/COLOR][/U][/URL] [COLOR=black]ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਾਸਤ ਸਾਜਿਅਨੁ ਪਾਪ ਪੁੰਨ ਗਣਤ ਗਣੀਨੀ ॥[/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=black]सिम्रिति सासत साजिअनु पाप पुंन गणत गणीनी ॥ Simriṯ sāsaṯ sāji­an pāp punn gaṇaṯ gaṇīnī. He created the Simritees and the Shaastras; He calculates the accounts of virtue and vice.[/COLOR] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=green]ਮਃ 3[/COLOR][/FONT] - [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=949&L=17'][U][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 255)]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/COLOR][/U][/URL] [U][FONT=AnmolUniPr] [COLOR=#0000ff][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=1050&punjabi=t&id=44958'][FONT=AnmolUniPr]ਪੰਨਾ 1050, ਸਤਰ 3[/FONT][/URL][/COLOR][/FONT][/U] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=black]ਪੁੰਨੁ ਪਾਪੁ ਸਭੁ ਬੇਦਿ ਦ੍ਰਿੜਾਇਆ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਪੀਜੈ ਹੇ ॥੧੫॥[/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=black]पुंनु पापु सभु बेदि द्रिड़ाइआ गुरमुखि अम्रितु पीजै हे ॥१५॥ Punn pāp sabẖ bėḏ driṛ­ā­i­ā gurmukẖ amriṯ pījai hė. ||15|| The Vedas tell all about virtue and vice, but only the Gurmukh drinks in the Ambrosial Nectar. ||15||[/COLOR] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][COLOR=green]ਮਃ 3[/COLOR][/FONT] - [COLOR=#0000ff][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=1050&L=3'][U]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/U][/URL][/COLOR] So what das came to know about helplessness of homosexuals(two partners or mnay and indulging in such acts and not forcing us in that) as their becoming homsexuals was not in thier control nor it is inthier control to come out of it.Then we have to be sympathic and ned something to do to rehabliation of them. [/QUOTE]
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